Posted on Jan 30, 2016
What's an Inconvenient Historical Fact that People Don't Want to Know/Acknowlege or Maybe Don't Want You to Know/Acknowledge?
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
Good one. I'd also like to hear some people mention Lincoln as he actually was, instead of his deified persona.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt That WWII was the deadliest war with an estimated 50 to 80 million people losing their lives when we include those that lost their lives to war related disease and famine. Civilian deaths from all causes are estimated to be between 29 and 31 million.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
CDR Michael Goldschmidt - I think you have something their CDR. The Harsh Conditions sure did create a great breeding ground for Hitler's Lunacy.
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CPT (Join to see)
CDR Michael Goldschmidt and PO1 William "Chip" Nagel That is a different thread if you want to debate if WWII was avoidable. I'm addressing the original question "What's an Inconvenient Historical Fact that People Don't Want to Know/Acknowlege or Maybe Don't Want You to Know/Acknowledge?"
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
CPT (Join to see) . Thanks for your reply. Just because there isn't another threat doesn't preclude addition discussion of the answers.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt But why do you post the question at the top then and bring in another that does not follow the same tract as the original under my response? :-( You are not discussing my answer.
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Many people believe the Atomic Bombs that we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the deadliest of our bombing campaigns of WWII. Though it is true in terms of a "deaths-to-bomb ratio", it was not the deadliest bombing campaign. The fire-bombing of Tokyo for example was much more devastating to the population, and killed/injured over 40,000 more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Though the Atomic Bombs had a larger shock effect, and damage-to-square mile ratio, they were not the most devastating bombing method.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
Some also believe that the A bombs were dropped to send a post-war message to the USSR that we not only had the bomb, but were willing to use it. There is evidence that the Japanese were attempting surrender for months before the A-bomb events.
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I haven't heard about the Japanese plan to surrender prior to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We dropped the bombs to force a quick Japanese surrender for two reasons: 1) we estimated the loss of life on both the US and Japanese sides would have been much greater if we had to invade the Japanese mainland compared to the estimated deaths caused by the bombs; and 2) the Soviets intended to help the US invade Japan, and we did not want Soviet influence in post-war Japan. I would add that we dropped two bombs to show the Japanese that we had more than just the one, which is what they assumed after we dropped it. Once we dropped the second, they knew we could potentially have more, and did not want the destruction to continue.
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