CPT Private RallyPoint Member7010222<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A soldier in our BN recently overdosed on some narcotic. Another soldier discovered the overdosed soldier unconscious with a pulse but not breathing. He immediately started rescue breathes and continued until EMS took over. EMS credits the soldier with saving the overdosed soldiers life. What would you award the soldier?What’s the appropriate award for saving an overdosed soldier's life?2021-05-28T18:47:50-04:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member7010222<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A soldier in our BN recently overdosed on some narcotic. Another soldier discovered the overdosed soldier unconscious with a pulse but not breathing. He immediately started rescue breathes and continued until EMS took over. EMS credits the soldier with saving the overdosed soldiers life. What would you award the soldier?What’s the appropriate award for saving an overdosed soldier's life?2021-05-28T18:47:50-04:002021-05-28T18:47:50-04:00TSgt George Rodriguez7010268<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A comendation medal for a rapid response in saving a humans life.Response by TSgt George Rodriguez made May 28 at 2021 7:03 PM2021-05-28T19:03:18-04:002021-05-28T19:03:18-04:00CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member7010333<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unless he was personally endangered it likely won't qualify for Soldier's Medal. It's the peacetime equivalent of DSC as the highest peacetime award. ARCOM maybe, or AAM? I'd go with ARCOM depending on the details. A round at All Hands beer call from the rescued soldier would be a bonus as well.Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2021 7:39 PM2021-05-28T19:39:55-04:002021-05-28T19:39:55-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member7010362<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Soldiers Medal.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2021 7:55 PM2021-05-28T19:55:00-04:002021-05-28T19:55:00-04:00CPT Aaron Kletzing7010495<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My guess is an ARCOM or a Soldier’s Medal — probably one of thoseResponse by CPT Aaron Kletzing made May 28 at 2021 9:17 PM2021-05-28T21:17:01-04:002021-05-28T21:17:01-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member7010597<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>ARCOM. Since the life of of rescuer was not in peril, they would not rate the Soldiers Medal.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2021 10:04 PM2021-05-28T22:04:04-04:002021-05-28T22:04:04-04:00SPC Wayne Wright7010717<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would award the soldier the highest award the state in which it happened issues to soldiers.Response by SPC Wayne Wright made May 28 at 2021 11:58 PM2021-05-28T23:58:23-04:002021-05-28T23:58:23-04:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member7010741<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How much does the CoC like this guy sir?<br /><br />Minimum ARCOM, perhaps a COA signed by BDE, and a coin from the first star in your chain.<br /><br />I don't think the Soldier's Medal qualifies unless there is some factor to the Soldier risking his life to save the other, and even then get someone damn good to write it up. Even then I doubt it, that's more of a run into an active shooter scenario or pull bodies from a burning building kind of thing.<br /><br />One of our NCO's provided medical aid to an injured Civilian in a motorcycle crash. Saved the guys severed ear, and removed broken teeth from his mouth so he wouldn't choke on them, and stayed with him until EMT's arrived on scene. Got an AAM for it.Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2021 12:54 AM2021-05-29T00:54:13-04:002021-05-29T00:54:13-04:00SGT Justin Brothen7010779<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Find a medal, then promote you need these kind of peopleResponse by SGT Justin Brothen made May 29 at 2021 2:34 AM2021-05-29T02:34:11-04:002021-05-29T02:34:11-04:00SGT Justin Brothen7010783<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Funny reading this that a soldiers medal isn't warranted...... Yet be a LT have a week in country.... Get bronze star..... Y'all have seen it maybe not that drastic but I haveResponse by SGT Justin Brothen made May 29 at 2021 2:40 AM2021-05-29T02:40:40-04:002021-05-29T02:40:40-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member7010845<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would recommend the Soldier for an ARCOM! I will disagree with others; the Soldier's Medal is not warranted in this instance due to the fact that the Soldier was not exposed to any risk (based on the information provided). I think an AAM is not enough. <br /><br />Having the wherewithal to start CPR (rescue breaths) in such a moment is definitely worth significant recognition. As a civilian Police Officer in my metropolitan area, I am dispatched to CPR/Assist Fire calls several times a month. In my experience, only about half of the times does someone start CPR prior to my arrival. I can say from experience that CPR does save lives, especially in the case of narcotic (usually heroin or an opioid) overdose. For those that have never done CPR before, it is not an easy thing to just jump into. I believe it takes some mental fortitude to recognize the situation and to act accordingly.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2021 5:07 AM2021-05-29T05:07:09-04:002021-05-29T05:07:09-04:001LT Private RallyPoint Member7010872<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’ve seen ARCOMs be given for similar things.Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2021 6:00 AM2021-05-29T06:00:06-04:002021-05-29T06:00:06-04:00CSM Darieus ZaGara7010890<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One, it is a selfless act, more often than not they aren’t looking for recognition, two it would warrant an ARCOM, or AAM, it requires more facts. It does not rise to the level of Soldiers medal, one has to be risking of themselves while saving another.Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made May 29 at 2021 6:22 AM2021-05-29T06:22:07-04:002021-05-29T06:22:07-04:00SFC Casey O'Mally7011102<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From the unit: ARCOM<br />From the other Soldier: Free beer for as long as they are both in the unit.<br /><br />In addition, the unit needs to make a BIG DEAL out of this. To show the dangers of narcotics, yes. But more importantly, to show the true measure of a Soldier, and how we expect Soldiers to ALWAYS do whatever they can to take care of each other. On the battlefield, off the battlefield, on duty, off duty. ALWAYS.Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made May 29 at 2021 8:50 AM2021-05-29T08:50:24-04:002021-05-29T08:50:24-04:00CW2 Private RallyPoint Member7011339<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Lots of ARCOM recommendations here, but I think the ARCOM has lost all of its value in the past 20 years. It's the new participation medal, you get them for literally doing nothing and HRC telling you to PCS, or for just deploying and sitting on BAF for a few months.<br />This Soldier could have done nothing, and no one would think less of them. I'd say a Bronze Star or MSM (at minimum), aka get a Flag Officer involved.<br /><br />This is the problem with awards, people are always trying to diminish and give the lowest possible award to a Soldier, rather than trying to give the higher and actually utilize the award system the way it is. Or we just have a lazy service that doesn't want to write a narrative so they stick to ARCOMs because an O6 signature is fairly easy to get and be done with it.Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2021 11:01 AM2021-05-29T11:01:38-04:002021-05-29T11:01:38-04:001st Lt Padre Dave Poedel7011538<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you figure out an award, I need to apply retroactively….I resuscitated numerous ODs in my emergency medical career….military and civilian…Response by 1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel made May 29 at 2021 12:59 PM2021-05-29T12:59:43-04:002021-05-29T12:59:43-04:00CSM David Porterfield7011945<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>ARCOMResponse by CSM David Porterfield made May 29 at 2021 5:51 PM2021-05-29T17:51:43-04:002021-05-29T17:51:43-04:00CW2 Private RallyPoint Member7011957<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Reading more responses it shows more of the problem within the awards system...it's too subjective. What some people feel MSM, others feel ARCOM, and some even say a coin or COA. The same subjectivity lies within the commanders with award approval authority.<br />We need objectivity within the system.Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2021 6:01 PM2021-05-29T18:01:27-04:002021-05-29T18:01:27-04:00CPL Brian Baumgartner7012428<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There was a time when the accepted answer may have depended on whether the ill Soldier had his gear clean. Today, I would say a Battalion Commander's coin, and possibly even an AAM if below E-3 or under 15 months TIS. The ceremony of a challenge coin and displaying it will provide some motivation to the most junior personnel in the unit, and possibly give the recipient some profile that leads to opportunity. Perhaps there is justification to an AAM, though I struggle to understand it other than addressing a severely low morale level throughout the unit. Rendering basic aid should always be the minimum, not the exception. How would you recommend treating your same Soldier if he DIDN'T administer basic care known and executed by ten year old Scouts and (hopefully) all high school freshman, much less trained professional Soldiers? Personally it seems like another participation award resulting from happenstance, not anything exemplary or impressive. Perhaps I am wrong here, and perhaps missing something obvious. Is this more about politics and morale than merit? I do recall in OSUT that my bunkmate rendered aid to a Soldier who could not breathe; he received a coin, and we had not even reached the first aid training phase.Response by CPL Brian Baumgartner made May 29 at 2021 10:15 PM2021-05-29T22:15:10-04:002021-05-29T22:15:10-04:00Lt Col Jim Coe7020708<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Commendation medal. Public presentation. Your soldier did a great service to his fellow Soldier and the US Army.Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Jun 2 at 2021 4:02 PM2021-06-02T16:02:01-04:002021-06-02T16:02:01-04:00SSG Eric Blue7029352<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>With what I've seen during my time, an AAM or an ARCOM. Depending on the person in the 82nd and who they know, they'd probably get a Soldier's Medal (I've seen two Soldier's Medals awarded during my career that didn't meet the criteria, but they got them anyway because of who they were and who they knew). Just my luck, I'd get a handshake and COB formation and "see you in the morning for PT."Response by SSG Eric Blue made Jun 6 at 2021 7:05 PM2021-06-06T19:05:05-04:002021-06-06T19:05:05-04:002021-05-28T18:47:50-04:00