What's the current status on height and weight flagging?

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 04:29:30 -0500

So I've heard from different people that soldiers can now be flagged for hight and weight and possibly failing the new pt test. I've searched everywhere for the documents supporting this but is this really true?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 8:35 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 08:35:41 -0500

I'm on my civilian computer, so unfortunately I can't access HRC website. I recommend starting there. Search the MILPER and ALARACT messages. Also, I recommend you seek out S1 to see if they have heard of or received any guidance on that. Because, last I knew the HT/WT is still a thing. It's the APFT/ACFT that has changed. If you failed an APFT when all this started, then you need to take a Record APFT to get unflagged. If you passed an APFT, then you will no longer take an APFT. Your next test would be an ACFT. However, based on current guidance, if you fail the ACFT, it will not be counted against you until 2021 or 2022.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 9:16 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:16:38 -0500

H/W flagging is unchanged. The Army Directive was only for APFT / ACFT.

ARMY DIRECTIVE 2020-06, ARMY COMBAT FITNESS TEST, 12 JUNE 2020. This directive establishes the Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT) as the Army’s physical fitness test of record, replacing the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT). The ACFT replaces the APFT as the Army’s physical fitness test of record beginning 1 October 2020. The Army will no longer conduct the APFT after 30 September 2020. The only exception is articulated in AR 350–1, paragraph F–5k, for Soldiers who failed their last record APFT. https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-824747

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 9:43 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:43:06 -0500

Yes, you still have to meet HT/WT and commander's can tape you.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 11:14 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:14:57 -0500

Soldiers have always been required to pass height and weight, there was never any exceptions due to COVID.

APFT is gone, only people who have a failing APFT are required to pass one. No one has to pass the ACFT until March 2022

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Nov 29 at 2020 1:43 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 13:43:24 -0500

The current status? If your fat, you’re flagged!

Too easy, right?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 7:18 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:18:17 -0500

As of right now Units are not authorized to conduct HT/WT, if a Soldier has to attend NCOES they will use there last HT/WT and APFT. If a Soldier fails the ACFT the Soldier cannot be flagged for the ACFT for it is still in the training phase, however the Command can make the failing Soldier attend remedial PT. Also all Soldiers are still required to meet HT/WT standards IAW AR 600-9 and you best believe once COVID Restrictions are lifted majority of Units will conduct a %100 HT/WT. If you need documentation or have specific questions about flagging from ACFT/APFT or HT/WT you can always reach out to your Installation IG.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Nov 29 at 2020 7:21 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:21:53 -0500

Height and Weight standards have always been in place and have always been enforced. This isn't a new thing regardless of branch. From what I have read online there are extensions to the new Army PT test. But anyone on active duty is expected to stay within height/weight standards and everyone on full duty without restrictions is expected to meet all physical fitness requirements.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Nov 30 at 2020 12:01 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 00:01:05 -0500

Height/weight/PT failures, taping failures have always been a flag issue since before god. Hell kid, Audie Murphy had to try several times to get in due to being under weight.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Nov 30 at 2020 6:10 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:10:47 -0500

This has always been the case. All Soldiers must meet height and weight standards. There are a few temporary waivers acceptions.

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Dec 2 at 2020 1:36 PM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 13:36:34 -0500

Back in the day it was lax, we had some real fat bodies in boot, they all made it though. One thing our DIs did was to get everyone standing at the end to pass everything, no one left behind, but they got extra attention with PT. I gained 31 pounds, I went from 151 to 182 lbs.