What's the punishment for leadership if caught lying in order to get a more severe punishment for their troop?

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Oct 2016 20:12:23 -0400

I received a LOC from my leadership for a late Government travel card payment because our bases finance office is severely understaffed. After leaving I was called back an hour later to get an LOR because someone in leadership mentioned I received a previous LOC a few months before. Not only is that a complete lie and there's nothing in my file, I was kicked off of deployment. I am a model airman

Response by SrA Jonathan Carbonaro made Oct 2 at 2016 8:40 PM

SrA Jonathan Carbonaro — Sun, 02 Oct 2016 20:40:17 -0400

I think you need to relax and breathe a little. Paperwork of the LOC, LOR, LOA variety is just a warning that you need to fix yourself, as well as starting paperwork if they decide you shouldn't be in the military. For a first time offense on anything, leadership may push for a higher level of paperwork. It is however up to the front line supervisor to decide the level of corrective action.
Can you file a complaint with IG, MEO, sure. But do you have proof wrong doing happened, beyond hearsay? Is it really worth filing that complaint in the long run, keep in mind these are people you will have to work with in the future.
If you were removed from a deployment, that tells me their is probably more to this story then you are telling, especially claiming to be a model airman. Why not put in for a transfer to a different reserve unit, especially if you believe their is toxic leadership at your current unit.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2016 11:09 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Oct 2016 23:09:07 -0400

I don't know much about Air Force culture, but I can say that when a unit in any service deploys, they want to have full readiness and typically 90% of their slots filled with trained and qualified personnel. Units do not remove one of their members readily. I can't imagine a deployed unit removing a "model airman" from deployment.

From what I understand, A LOC is just a formal recording of an infraction. It lays out the specifics of an infraction including possible consequences of the behavior and provides guidance as to how to correct the behavior. A LOA indicates that there has been a pattern of a given undesirable behavior, implying an intentional disregard for a behavior standard. If my definitions are correct, then I don't understand how a "model airman" would be escalated in this corrective behavior.

When you signed your LOA, did you request to see the previous LOC?

I think we are missing part of the story here.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2016 4:09 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 16:09:19 -0400

something smells fishy here.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Oct 9 at 2016 4:34 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 16:34:58 -0400

if it can be proven, it's Conduct Unbecoming...

Response by SGT Michael Waller made Oct 10 at 2016 7:53 AM

SGT Michael Waller — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:53:52 -0400

So the punishment for the AF is to NOT deploy you?