Posted on Oct 2, 2016
What's the punishment for leadership if caught lying in order to get a more severe punishment for their troop?
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I received a LOC from my leadership for a late Government travel card payment because our bases finance office is severely understaffed. After leaving I was called back an hour later to get an LOR because someone in leadership mentioned I received a previous LOC a few months before. Not only is that a complete lie and there's nothing in my file, I was kicked off of deployment. I am a model airman
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I don't know much about Air Force culture, but I can say that when a unit in any service deploys, they want to have full readiness and typically 90% of their slots filled with trained and qualified personnel. Units do not remove one of their members readily. I can't imagine a deployed unit removing a "model airman" from deployment.
From what I understand, A LOC is just a formal recording of an infraction. It lays out the specifics of an infraction including possible consequences of the behavior and provides guidance as to how to correct the behavior. A LOA indicates that there has been a pattern of a given undesirable behavior, implying an intentional disregard for a behavior standard. If my definitions are correct, then I don't understand how a "model airman" would be escalated in this corrective behavior.
When you signed your LOA, did you request to see the previous LOC?
I think we are missing part of the story here.
From what I understand, A LOC is just a formal recording of an infraction. It lays out the specifics of an infraction including possible consequences of the behavior and provides guidance as to how to correct the behavior. A LOA indicates that there has been a pattern of a given undesirable behavior, implying an intentional disregard for a behavior standard. If my definitions are correct, then I don't understand how a "model airman" would be escalated in this corrective behavior.
When you signed your LOA, did you request to see the previous LOC?
I think we are missing part of the story here.
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SrA (Join to see)
No sir I did not, and a conversation had with my commander today revealed that i did not have the previous LOC. And I have completed more training in my short time than most others in the same specially tasked job that I have. As well as the many awards and positive letters that I have received I think I am right to say that i am a model airman, considering those are words from members of my leadership to include my unit commander.
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SFC Joseph Weber
I think a "model airman" would be given a break. End of the day you did pay late and you can blame it on finance but it's still your responsibility.
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I have not deployed yet, and our deployments are actually enjoyable especially for an eager airman wanting some real experience outside of one weekend a month
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