What should I do if I missed making E-5 because my unit took out my last weapons qualification and put my old one on DTMS?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I shot in Jan 2019. Ppw and Srb reflected from Jan-jul. pcsed and my new unit took off my last qual and in August/September it showed I last shot jul 2018. I noticed it and turned in my most recent qual. They never updated dtms. I missed 5 by 9 pointsThu, 26 Sep 2019 13:33:50 -0400What should I do if I missed making E-5 because my unit took out my last weapons qualification and put my old one on DTMS?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I shot in Jan 2019. Ppw and Srb reflected from Jan-jul. pcsed and my new unit took off my last qual and in August/September it showed I last shot jul 2018. I noticed it and turned in my most recent qual. They never updated dtms. I missed 5 by 9 pointsSPC Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 13:33:50 -04002019-09-26T13:33:50-04:00Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2019 1:38 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Have your NCOs address this with your Training NCO.MSG Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 13:38:41 -04002019-09-26T13:38:41-04:00Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2019 2:04 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s ok you will pick up next month just make sure all your stuff is good nowSGT Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 14:04:32 -04002019-09-26T14:04:32-04:00Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Sep 26 at 2019 2:24 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Pretty sure your field grade commander can order this to be corrected. After all it's his signature that promotes you. He can also direct that finance correct your records to get you back pay. I know of a young SP4 (who had passed the broad) back when I was serving that had exactly the same problem - the Training NCO (we had company clerks and Training NCOs in the units in 1980) didn't like him. <br />The IG & JAG got involved in that case and our Post MP/CID made a 'guest appearance'.<br />In the end CID simply made the recommendation to the IG/JAG/BN Cdr to Article 15 the Training NCO and to backdate the SP4's points. Which is what happened.<br />Ore there any officers - Field Grade, JAG or IG - that can advise on this for the current (I retried 1993) Army policy on Command Authority?SFC Ralph E KelleyThu, 26 Sep 2019 14:24:39 -04002019-09-26T14:24:39-04:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2019 2:41 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There's nothing you can do. As a 42A you should be somewhat familiar with promotions. A few years ago the reg was changed to make it so that even if the unit was at fault, if the SM missed points, HRC will allow the promotion to be back dated. Years ago the BDE CDR could approve an exception to policy to allow a SM to have their points reevaluated if the unit made a mistake and the SM missed promotion due to no fault of their own.SFC Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 14:41:43 -04002019-09-26T14:41:43-04:00Response by MSG Gary Eckert made Sep 26 at 2019 2:56 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You are out of luck, as a 42A, recommend you read para 3-15, AR 600-8-19, so that you know how to find the answer when someone is asking you the question. You need to ensure you records are correct by 8 Oct or you are going to miss the November promotion cycle.MSG Gary EckertThu, 26 Sep 2019 14:56:18 -04002019-09-26T14:56:18-04:00Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2019 3:40 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You'll make it next month..SGT Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 15:40:37 -04002019-09-26T15:40:37-04:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2019 8:20 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SM can’t request a STAB?SFC Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 26 Sep 2019 20:20:18 -04002019-09-26T20:20:18-04:00Response by CPL Gary Pifer made Sep 26 at 2019 9:43 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's all about being in the " In Crowd". And by the sign of it... you aint... I suggest dozens of donuts or pizza. PS: As a 42a can't you input it?CPL Gary PiferThu, 26 Sep 2019 21:43:31 -04002019-09-26T21:43:31-04:00Response by SSgt Dee O'Connor made Sep 27 at 2019 2:01 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Talk to themSSgt Dee O'ConnorFri, 27 Sep 2019 02:01:32 -04002019-09-27T02:01:32-04:00Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2019 3:32 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Also, as a 42A I typically am squared away with my records but with the change that APFT and weapons qual is solely based through unit training rooms and DTMS, I made sure I gave the training room a copy of my weapons qual and APFT from my last unit, as soon as I got to my new unit.SPC Private RallyPoint MemberFri, 27 Sep 2019 03:32:15 -04002019-09-27T03:32:15-04:00Response by LCDR Mike Morrissey made Sep 27 at 2019 10:52 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Out of curiosity as I’m not familiar with Army regs etc. but couldn’t a filing to the ‘Board of Corrections of Army Records be made?LCDR Mike MorrisseyFri, 27 Sep 2019 22:52:45 -04002019-09-27T22:52:45-04:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2019 3:29 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is nothing you can do, this is an unfortunate thing that happens quite often. It can be frustrating, all you can do is just ensure that its updated with the new weapons card.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberSat, 28 Sep 2019 03:29:24 -04002019-09-28T03:29:24-04:002019-09-26T13:33:50-04:00