Posted on Sep 17, 2014
What specifically covers the wear and when you can wear to a dining in or out?
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I have not been to a dining in or out since I received the MI branch Knowlton award. I know that during formal events people usually wear things like that or Audie Murphy etc around their neck.
What specifically covers the wear and when you can wear these?
I vaguely remember something in AR 670-1 that covers items like stetsons, and spurs, etc.
I'm not sure if para 22-9 is covering this or not. It's talking about Medal of Honor and whatnot so I don't think that's it.
22–9. Multiple neck ribbons, broad sashes, and stars
a. An individual awarded more than one decoration that includes a broad ribbon, sash, or star will wear only one
broad ribbon or sash, and no more than four stars at one time. The Presidential Medal of Freedom broad ribbon with
badge and star has precedence over all other broad ribbons, sashes, or stars. Additional guidance on wear of stars is in
DA Pam 670–1.
b. An individual may not wear more than two decorations with neck ribbons at one time. The decoration with the
highest precedence is worn suspended above the other. The Medal of Honor takes precedence over all other decorations
with neck ribbons.
What specifically covers the wear and when you can wear these?
I vaguely remember something in AR 670-1 that covers items like stetsons, and spurs, etc.
I'm not sure if para 22-9 is covering this or not. It's talking about Medal of Honor and whatnot so I don't think that's it.
22–9. Multiple neck ribbons, broad sashes, and stars
a. An individual awarded more than one decoration that includes a broad ribbon, sash, or star will wear only one
broad ribbon or sash, and no more than four stars at one time. The Presidential Medal of Freedom broad ribbon with
badge and star has precedence over all other broad ribbons, sashes, or stars. Additional guidance on wear of stars is in
DA Pam 670–1.
b. An individual may not wear more than two decorations with neck ribbons at one time. The decoration with the
highest precedence is worn suspended above the other. The Medal of Honor takes precedence over all other decorations
with neck ribbons.
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CW2 (Join to see) I didn't give up on you and this is what I found. This is the best we have and what we have to go with I think.
AR 670-1 (dated 15 September 2014) paragraph 22-12 d.
d. Badges of civic and quasi-military societies of the United States and international organizations of a military
nature. These include badges of organizations originally composed of members who served in a U.S. force during the
Revolutionary War; the War of 1812; the Mexican War; the Civil War; the Spanish-American War; the Philippine
Insurrection; and the Chinese Relief Expedition of 1900. These also include badges (such as medallions) issued by
military (regimental) associations. The badges are worn only while the wearer is actually attending meetings or
functions of such organizations, or on occasions of ceremony (as authorized by the commander). Personnel will not
wear these badges to and from such meetings or events. Items must be similar to those authorized by AR 670–1 and
worn in the same manner.
AR 670-1 (dated 15 September 2014) paragraph 22-12 d.
d. Badges of civic and quasi-military societies of the United States and international organizations of a military
nature. These include badges of organizations originally composed of members who served in a U.S. force during the
Revolutionary War; the War of 1812; the Mexican War; the Civil War; the Spanish-American War; the Philippine
Insurrection; and the Chinese Relief Expedition of 1900. These also include badges (such as medallions) issued by
military (regimental) associations. The badges are worn only while the wearer is actually attending meetings or
functions of such organizations, or on occasions of ceremony (as authorized by the commander). Personnel will not
wear these badges to and from such meetings or events. Items must be similar to those authorized by AR 670–1 and
worn in the same manner.
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In understanding what the AR 670-1 saids above because is what I found. Can a Soldier wear two Medallions at the same time?
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
MSG (Join to see) - DA Pam 670–1, Para 22–9. Multiple neck ribbons, broad sashes, and stars -
b. An individual may not wear more than two decorations with neck ribbons at one time. The decoration with the highest precedence is worn suspended above the other. The Medal of Honor takes precedence over all other decorations with neck ribbons.
b. An individual may not wear more than two decorations with neck ribbons at one time. The decoration with the highest precedence is worn suspended above the other. The Medal of Honor takes precedence over all other decorations with neck ribbons.
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Title 10 "Armed Forces" § 1123. Right to wear badges of military societies......
(a) A member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps who is a member of a military society originally composed of men who served in an armed force of the United States during the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, the Philippine Insurrection, or the Chinese Relief Expedition of 1900 may wear, on occasions of ceremony, the distinctive badges adopted by that society.
(b) A member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps who is a member of the Army and Navy Union of the United States may wear, on public occasions of ceremony, the distinctive badges adopted by that society.
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 88.)
While most of us adhere to service guidelines, the USC still supersedes any service regulations. The text is clear however refinements to it from for example AR 670-1 (q.v. or on occasions of ceremony {as authorized by the commander}. Personnel will not wear these badges to and from such meetings or events), are not supported by USC 10 § 1123. Wow, a sentence too long. Branch societies are not so protected.
The Hereditary Societies "still existing in unbroken succession" encompassed by the original statute:
1) The Society of Cincinnati, (Revolution) officers only.
2) Military Society of the War of 1812, (1812) officers only.
3) Aztec Club, (Mexican War) officers only.
4) Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the US (MOLLUS), (War of Northern Aggression ;-) Federal/Union officers only, or Other Ranks who were subsequently Commissioned.
5) Army-Navy Union of the United States.
6) Military Order of Foreign Wars, (all foreign wars up to Philippine Insurrection) officers only.
7) Military Order of the Carabao, (originally Philippine Insurrection only, it now more broadly defined) officers only.
(3A, 4A or both) Military Order of the Indian Wars, (IW) claims eligibility, but there are differing opinions on this within the community of Hereditary Societies. I have no opinion.
Another point that must be understood. In the case of societies originally composed of officers only, subsequent members (for at least 115 years) could be Private Soldiers, NCOs, Warrant, or Commissioned Officers.
(a) A member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps who is a member of a military society originally composed of men who served in an armed force of the United States during the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, the Philippine Insurrection, or the Chinese Relief Expedition of 1900 may wear, on occasions of ceremony, the distinctive badges adopted by that society.
(b) A member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps who is a member of the Army and Navy Union of the United States may wear, on public occasions of ceremony, the distinctive badges adopted by that society.
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 88.)
While most of us adhere to service guidelines, the USC still supersedes any service regulations. The text is clear however refinements to it from for example AR 670-1 (q.v. or on occasions of ceremony {as authorized by the commander}. Personnel will not wear these badges to and from such meetings or events), are not supported by USC 10 § 1123. Wow, a sentence too long. Branch societies are not so protected.
The Hereditary Societies "still existing in unbroken succession" encompassed by the original statute:
1) The Society of Cincinnati, (Revolution) officers only.
2) Military Society of the War of 1812, (1812) officers only.
3) Aztec Club, (Mexican War) officers only.
4) Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the US (MOLLUS), (War of Northern Aggression ;-) Federal/Union officers only, or Other Ranks who were subsequently Commissioned.
5) Army-Navy Union of the United States.
6) Military Order of Foreign Wars, (all foreign wars up to Philippine Insurrection) officers only.
7) Military Order of the Carabao, (originally Philippine Insurrection only, it now more broadly defined) officers only.
(3A, 4A or both) Military Order of the Indian Wars, (IW) claims eligibility, but there are differing opinions on this within the community of Hereditary Societies. I have no opinion.
Another point that must be understood. In the case of societies originally composed of officers only, subsequent members (for at least 115 years) could be Private Soldiers, NCOs, Warrant, or Commissioned Officers.
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That is the portion that I have always been directed to, and I believe that it does pertain to all neck worn awards to include regimental awards.
They are worn on the outside of the collar of the shirt but under the coat. The medallion is to be suspended directly under the bow tie in the area where the shirt can be seen above the buttons on the coat.
They are worn on the outside of the collar of the shirt but under the coat. The medallion is to be suspended directly under the bow tie in the area where the shirt can be seen above the buttons on the coat.
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MSG (Join to see) - Where did you find the statement, "The SAMA takes precedence over other awards with neck ribbons, except for DA awards?" I cannot not find a link to the new FORSCOM reg and there is no mention of The SAMA in any DA Reg (that I can find, that is).
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CSM (Join to see) - I apologize, it's been a while! I want to say I took it directly from the SAMA FORSCOM regulation. That's the bad part- DA regulations do not mention it specifically and the FORSCOM regulation even contradicts on the wear of the medallion (states that it is worn under the white shirt collar versus on top and between the jacket). I can look at it again since a new FORSCOM regulation was published but I think it's still the same).
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You're correct, the regulation specifies outside the shirt collar, inside the jacket collar. Sadly whatever staff minion that was tasked with the FORSCOM SAMC reg blurb seems to have never read the Army regulation.
I obey the AR and DA PAM. I don't view FORSCOM incompetence as an acceptable excuse to violate Army doctrine.
You're correct, the regulation specifies outside the shirt collar, inside the jacket collar. Sadly whatever staff minion that was tasked with the FORSCOM SAMC reg blurb seems to have never read the Army regulation.
I obey the AR and DA PAM. I don't view FORSCOM incompetence as an acceptable excuse to violate Army doctrine.
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CSM (Join to see) - Often precedence is determined by date of institution. Was the SAMC the first branch "order" established? If one were to wear several hereditary military societies at once they are "normally" arranged left to right by date of institution (or conflict).
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