What values, if any, would you add to the Army's 7 core values?

2018-05-14T20:07:45-04:00

This list have been around at least since I joined the Army in 99 and I imagine it's been around for much longer than that. Is it time for a tweak or is it a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
Loyalty - Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, the Army, your unit and other soldiers.
Duty - Fulfill your obligations.
Respect - Treat people as they should be treated.
Selfless Service - Put the welfare of the nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.
Honor - Live up to all the Army values.
Integrity - Do what’s right, legally and morally.
Personal Courage - Face fear, danger, or adversity [physical or moral.]

Response by SP5 Dennis Loberger made May 14 at 2018 8:45 PM

2018-05-14T20:45:32-04:00

None. Whether it was deliberate or not I don't know, but the first letters of the values make it easy to remember because it is LeaDeRSHIP.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 14 at 2018 8:46 PM

2018-05-14T20:46:45-04:00

Compassion

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2018 9:37 PM

2018-05-14T21:37:10-04:00

Seven is enough.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2018 9:59 PM

2018-05-14T21:59:26-04:00

Great question 1LT. If I could recommend an addition, I would add "Equality". Fair and non bias leadership is something that I hold close to. Additionly, equal opportunity is something the Army stresses at all times. Not to mention, adding an "E" would make the acronym LDRSHIP make a little more sense.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made May 14 at 2018 11:10 PM

2018-05-14T23:10:56-04:00

I mentioned in another post that my journey working to keep those things in mind as they are not exclusive to the Army. I will say for me, humility made living the others much more possible. Nothing like your hubris getting in the way of focusing on that or other similar list.

Response by SPC Cathy Goessman made May 14 at 2018 11:20 PM

2018-05-14T23:20:52-04:00

Efficiency - Work to make work or a CYA measure wastes so much time in the Army. It's an incredible waste of resources.

Response by SGT Jennifer Rixe made May 15 at 2018 1:52 AM

2018-05-15T01:52:40-04:00

I would add transparency - all of these values don't mean anything if you don't live them to the fullest; say what you mean and mean what you say... just my 2 cents!

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made May 15 at 2018 7:12 AM

2018-05-15T07:12:07-04:00

"Good ideas"

Great for adding bullets to the old OER.

In all seriousness though, it's pretty great overall.

Response by Col Jim Harmon made May 15 at 2018 8:19 AM

2018-05-15T08:19:39-04:00

Tenacity.

Webster's dictionary defines tenacity as: not easily pulled apart: tending to adhere or cling especially to another substance.

With respect to military operations, tenacity implies the moral, physical, and mental capability to persevere and advance into the face of adversity and hostility. The indomitable spirit of the warrior and the unwillingness to retreat or withdraw. To never fail your unit.

As Colonel Charles Beckwith remarked, "I'd rather go down the river with seven studs than with a hundred shitheads"

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2018 8:43 AM

2018-05-15T08:43:53-04:00

Innovation
Finding new and improved ways to tackle problem sets and missions as opposed to doing things a certain way "because that is the way we always have done it".

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 15 at 2018 8:44 AM

2018-05-15T08:44:08-04:00

I would something that says family is number 1. Without family I am nothing.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2018 8:46 AM

2018-05-15T08:46:04-04:00

E - Efficiency...but that's a pipe dream

Response by Sgt Jesus Rodriguez made May 15 at 2018 10:07 AM

2018-05-15T10:07:54-04:00

How about removing a few and focusing on quality recruits, not numbers?... unless the army values are meant to surpass the 10 commandments .. too many values indicates an issue with the quality of recruitment that unlimited number of values may not correct personnel behavior issues.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2018 4:55 PM

2018-05-15T16:55:54-04:00

Bit of a stretch...
Loyalty-*done*
Efficiency- "Mission accomplishment cannot be attained without effectiveness in effort and expertise."
Ambition- "Having the will and determination to finish strong."
Duty-*done*
Empathy-Understanding the diverse and intricate needs of Today's Army...*tongue in cheek*
R..
S..
H..
I..
P..
Now the acronym is a word too!

Response by SGT Philip Roncari made May 15 at 2018 6:05 PM

2018-05-15T18:05:12-04:00

I was probably in the Army long before the advent of “Core Values” (or have forgotten them in the first place,can remember some of my General Orders though) I do remember quite clearly advice received from my Platoon Sergeant, “Roncari don’t you F*&# ing quit on me” or one I passed on to my AIT trainees “,Mission First” borrowed that from the NCO Academy those were my Core Values .

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2018 6:18 PM

2018-05-15T18:18:40-04:00

Lists tend to get bigger. And bigger. And bigger... ACE reports becomes LACE reports, METT-T becomes METT-TC and before you know it, you'll one day have XABALACEFST reports and METT-TC-XYZ-ABCG considerations that are bigger than OPORDs. So, I'd think about consolidating some things in lists.

Duty and Selfless-Service seem to me to have a lot of overlap on the Venn diagram. I'd combine them. Also, I think Personal Courage is a function or effect of values and priorities, but it is so important that I'd keep it separate as it's own element. I'd tie the Values to the Warrior Ethos, as well, discuss both in the same block of instruction.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made May 15 at 2018 6:27 PM

2018-05-15T18:27:16-04:00

Typical Army...

How about just 3 values?

God, Corps, Country

Response by SGT Mark Estes made Nov 8 at 2018 1:07 AM

2018-11-08T01:07:32-05:00

Are the core values still Loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor , integrity and personal courage? That’s what they were when I was in a long time ago. Just checking to see if they have changed any of them over time.