What will infantry school be like as a prior service SGT from the marines that already has a combat deployment under their belt goin army ?

2021-03-07T14:03:10-05:00

I’m still active in the Marines I am during the conditional release program to go over to the army without getting out and going back in I just don’t wanna be treated like some dude when I’m going through the infantry school and I want to know how long it will be for me being prior service because the recruiters don’t have much of an answer for me

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2021 2:08 PM

2021-03-07T14:08:51-05:00

Don’t be that guy. Nobody cares if you have a combat deployment “under your belt”. If you weren’t infantry in the marines, you are going to be treated like any other infantry recruit.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2021 2:31 PM

2021-03-07T14:31:22-05:00

Honestly there’s a few possibilities and only some of them are half decent. You’ll get to 30th AG, they’ll do a determination of how long it’s been since you’ve been out of the service to see if you need to do basic all over again. If you’re Navy or Air Force it won’t matter because you’ll be a Day 0 trainee. Marines and Army are good (sort of). If you were infantry in either branch then you won’t have to do any portion of OSUT/Basic. If you weren’t then you’ll be told you’ll only do the AIT portion. The issue I saw guys run into was that there were few classes accepting inserts for whatever reason and there’s no choice between Rifleman or Mortars. You could spend months at 30th AG waiting for a class to take you in or accept a Day 0 restart and go much sooner. Also you may wait all that time to be told you’ll be starting week 10 but actually be inserted week 3 or whenever basic rifle marksmanship starts.

Assuming you’ve made it into a class under any of the circumstances above. You have a few new possibilities. They may hate prior service guys and treat you just like everyone else. They might like you and house you separately. They might only like NCOs and everyone else will be separated. They might like you, be housed separately and be basically treated as a secondary instructor if that makes sense. It’ll be a mess, good luck.

TL;DR No one is sure, there’s too many variables and luck involved. Just expect to be a Day 0 private.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2021 2:46 PM

2021-03-07T14:46:58-05:00

You are going to the Army. This means you need to learn how the Army does things - which is different to how we do things in the Marine Corps. Hell, if the Marine Corps would take me back I would have to 100% recycle most of my basic training as it is almost 40 years out of date while my MOS training is 25+ years out of date. Does not matter that I am a SSgt or not. Does not matter if I went to Desert Shield/Storm or not.

The Army does things differently. You need to learn it, embrace it and never utter the words "but in the Marines we did it this way". What you do take with you is that inner training, that mental attitude of a Marine to improvise, adapt and overcome. Combine Army training and ways of doing things with Marine COrps toughness and grit and you will be a great Sgt in the Army.

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Mar 7 at 2021 4:38 PM

2021-03-07T16:38:43-05:00

Having a combat deployment is pretty much irrelevant. When I went Army, I had to do Basic Training because even though I had a Nam tour with the USMC infantry (Corpsman), I was Navy and Navy or USAF had to do Army Basic. At that time (1971), prior service Army or Marines did NOT have to do Army Basic unless they were out for a specified time period. In your case, that's not an issue. You PROBABLY won't have to do Army Basic. Speak to an Army Recruiter, even though they haven't given you an answer, for the latest policies and diplomatically push for a solid answer or ask to speak to the Recruiting Office's NCOIC.

There are some protocol differences in the Army ... like when formally reporting to an officer, Army DOES salute whereas Marines and Navy do not salute indoors.

As for "Infantry School," I'm not entirely sure; but it's likely your USMC Basic will suffice. I don't THINK you'll have to do Ft. Benning's Infantry Basic. If you're going Rangers, that's different and you'll have to pre-test for that anyhow.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2021 5:11 PM

2021-03-07T17:11:58-05:00

You are just some dude coming into the Army. When Pat Tillman and Elvis Presley left their blossoming careers behind and joined the Army they were just some dudes as well. No one cares that you had deployments and you'll have Drill Sergeants who have more deployment time and more schools than you so it will help you to check your ego at the door. In Army schools there are only students and instructors. All students are equal in the Army.

If you have to go to Infantry school in the Army then you're 100% just another dude. I'll leave you with one of the best pieces of advice an NCO gave a young, headstrong Ranger Boyd: "Keep your mouth shut and your ears open. If you're in a class it means you have something left to learn."

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Mar 7 at 2021 6:36 PM

2021-03-07T18:36:44-05:00

For all intent and purpose you are some dude. They don't know you. Remember your roots and be proud of them but you need to jump in and walk/talk/bark/squat like the Army. Be humble and hold your tongue because you need to focus on learning.

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Mar 7 at 2021 8:16 PM

2021-03-07T20:16:39-05:00

I was like a ping png ball between Marines and Navy training and assignments. My advice, remember where you are at the time, and do the job they tell you. Each service does things differently. Learn their TTP and rock on.

Response by SSG Brian L. made Mar 7 at 2021 8:42 PM

2021-03-07T20:42:13-05:00

Dont be a dirtbag and you wont get treated like a dirtbag. Remember that no matter how your treated the trainees will look to you too so set the example. Bad habits like carrying your M4 by the slip ring, not using two hands or no hands to get up and down, basically just do what your told how your told and maybe just maybe the Drill will appreciate it and give you some slack. No guarantees.

Response by SSG Thomas Simpson made Mar 7 at 2021 11:42 PM

2021-03-07T23:42:00-05:00

You’ll be fine, play the game. Stand tall and do your best, you’ll come out on top. Wishing you the best!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2021 3:30 AM

2021-03-08T03:30:19-05:00

Why do you need to go to Infantry training?
Are you switching jobs?
If you're 0311, you just switch uniforms and show up. If not, you just go through the MOS portion of OSUT, if anything at all.

Response by SFC Kurt Brunken made Mar 8 at 2021 7:47 AM

2021-03-08T07:47:25-05:00

Keep your mouth shut, lead by example and soon enough the Drills will ease off of you or 'promote' you to a leadership position.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Mar 8 at 2021 9:32 AM

2021-03-08T09:32:40-05:00

Keep quiet, watch, listen, and do all you can. Knowing how to do something multiple ways is a strength. They will show you how the army does infantry. it will be similar but different.

Response by SSG Eduardo Ybarra Jr. MS Psyc made Mar 8 at 2021 1:14 PM

2021-03-08T13:14:23-05:00

The first question is are you currently in the infantry in the Marines (0300 I think)? if the answer is yes the transition will go easily. What I mean is you already know the battle drills. The same battle drills we have in the Army are the same in the Marines. You may then have to attend some training to understand the Army side of the house. Meaning some basic training this will be dependent on your rank as well. If you are keeping your SGT rank it will be much more laxed. The drills won't ride you as hard but they will expect you to know your stuff more than a fresh boot. If the answer is no then you will be placed into an already formed basic/AIT class where you will learn all the infantry tasks and battle drills. You will be in the platoon but be separate if that makes sense. More than likely you will have a barracks room away from the privates and you will get your weekends to yourself after
training. Don't sweat it too much you will find that you will be more of an asset to the drills and they will know this when they see you. This should make for an easier experience. The Army did this in 07, I remember seeing guys from the Navy, Airforce and Marines transition into Army infantry training because in their former service it was hard to move up in rank, all of them did well and went through training without any issues. The only exception was the guys in the Navy and Airforce had a little issue with PT. The Marine cats didn't have that issue. Hope this helps.

Response by SFC Howard Holmes made Mar 8 at 2021 4:35 PM

2021-03-08T16:35:33-05:00

It depends on your outlook, your attitude, and your ability to be a good teammate. You will not be treated like "some Dude" because the Drill Sgt.s will know your background. You will probably be a Squad Leader. They will hold you to somewhat a higher standard. During my decades of service I've spent time around Marines, and did some time at Camp LeJeune. I've never been treated like a piece of $hit. I was a Buck Sgt. at the time. I wasn't disrespectful, nothing, the mess Gunny reminded me of Sgt. Carter on Gomer Pyle USMC. You may be disappointed by the lack of respect, the lack of esprit de corpse, and discipline. The Army used to be somewhere between where the Marines are and where the Army is today. I say to check any Marine "arrogance" at the door. Nobody will care that you were a Marine, and they will come back at you, "apparently you couldn't handle it," or, "if you loved it so much, what are you doing here?" Also, don't do a bunch of, "when I was a Marine we..." Well, you aren't a Marine any more, so who cares. I'm not saying it derogatorily to you, but that's what will be said and the attitude. Nobody's going to fall at your feet and worship you, they're not going to kiss your butt, and they are going to expect a little more out of you.

Response by Cpl David Hamilton made Mar 9 at 2021 3:15 PM

2021-03-09T15:15:39-05:00

The big thing you will notice is the discipline and Esprit de Corps varies in the Army. While the Corps has it throughout, the Army has levels. Starting with SF, Rangers, Airborne, 10th Mountain Div., to other bases. You will find as an NCO in some of the other bases this to frustrating in appearance, attitude and work ethic.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2021 4:53 PM

2021-03-09T16:53:16-05:00

The only cool thing is you will get to wear whatever unit you were with in the marines patch as a combat patch. Alot of soldiers in the NG who previously served and deployed with the marines all wear the 1st Marines Combat patch for example.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2021 12:29 AM

2021-03-10T00:29:26-05:00

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member Since most of these people a just spouting anecdotal opinions, I’ll answer your question.

You will get slotted into a OSUT class (somewhere from day 0- partially through). The DS will pull you aside and explain their expectations for you, generally you’ll help them with keeping the new privates in line and teaching them the basics.

You will most likely get your own barracks or living space. And you may even get weekend off post passes.

Don’t expect to be in a leadership position, but be prepared to help out whoever is the position with guidance on being a leader.

Spend your time learning the “basics” of the Army (uniform wear, customs and courtesies, basic tactics [TC 3-21.8 is the infantry bible]). These will help you transition to “Army infantry”.

If you have any questions, ask the DS, and they will help you out. Best of luck on your transition.

Response by LTC Wayne Dandridge made Mar 15 at 2021 8:42 AM

2021-03-15T08:42:31-04:00

Be humble and let your skills, knowledge, and expereince speak for them selves. Your value will show through your work and discipline. The Marine Corps is a great institution and you will see that the things you learned in the USMC will be a great help in being a good soldier. Let your actions, initiative, enthusiasm, compassion, politeness, physical fitness, wisdom, and attention to detail speak for itself. Best wishes, Larry Dandridge

Response by CW3 Joseph Lawrence made Mar 19 at 2021 12:09 PM

2021-03-19T12:09:03-04:00

In my career I have seen way to many disagreements between the Army and the Marine Corp. So much so that I had to stop a Marine Sergeant during a friendly basketball game and remind him that we belong to the same country. Experience, no matter how much, is there for an individual to draw on and not have shoved down his throat. A drill sergeant's deployment may not be the same as the Marine's deployment and comparing notes, instead of egos, will make any soldier, whether Marine or Army that much better.

Response by LtCol Robert Quinter made Mar 24 at 2021 12:33 PM

2021-03-24T12:33:54-04:00

You are a new guy in training, Your advantage is some things others have to learn will be second nature to you, while other trainees will be starting from square one. You're committing to the Army, learn their way according to the course and, if you see something that can be tweaked, wait until you've worked into a leadership role where you're working with contemporaries and you can discuss your tweak and its impact on the standard procedures and expectations.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2021 9:49 AM

2021-03-31T09:49:21-04:00

I went from USMC Infantry to Air National Guard and had to do the new MOS school / switching branches thing. I agree with what most people advised, go into it with the mentality that you're learning their culture; "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" and all that.

I thought going through the student experience all over again was fun. It was nice to just sit back and play dumb E-1 for a little bit and have no responsibilities other than maintaining myself. Like someone else said, the instructors will be rotating the junior soldiers in leadership positions to teach them, but the juniors will look up to you for advice and mentorship.

Just have fun with it. Hope this helped. Good luck!

Response by SFC Tommy Favors made Apr 3 at 2021 1:41 AM

2021-04-03T01:41:18-04:00

The army drills might trigger some PTSD on you.

Response by SSG Jeffery Lander made Apr 5 at 2021 4:06 AM

2021-04-05T04:06:06-04:00

As an 0351, when I transitioned to the Army National Guard, I did not have to attend basic training or an AIT and my Marine MOS transfered over as 11B right off the bat. As I joined the guard as a Cavalry Scout, I did have to attend an MOS reclassification course for 19D (and eventually a 11C reclass as well) . I will say, some kind of Army customs training would have been benificial, but I figured it out eventually OJT.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2021 5:37 PM

2021-04-08T17:37:05-04:00

I’m a DS at Infantry OSUT. You will be treated as the rest of the students for most of the training, but may afforded certain privileges due to being an NCO. You will more than likely attend the marksmanship training weeks in one Company and then be moved to attend the actual MOS training in another Company or Battalion. Do not act like you know better or display an unwillingness to learn and you’ll be fine.

Response by SP5 Anthony P Gapastione made Apr 10 at 2021 5:23 PM

2021-04-10T17:23:20-04:00

I think if anything you should be sound and fit. You should have the P T test. And pass it. Now whatever your m o s was most likely that will change
And your rank will have a o be discussed. Other than that.

Response by Cpl Jeff Ruffing made Apr 17 at 2021 11:24 PM

2021-04-17T23:24:45-04:00

My best advice, since I’ve been this route before; no one gives a shit and you could piss someone off that will make your life a living hell. I had a “E-5” that tried to give and lead a combat patrol ( practice) I never saw such a cluster fuck in my life. This guy had NO f’ing clue as to what he was saying or doing. It took all my strength not to chew this f’er out. I was one rank below him. We went out and he decided he and another E-5 were going to do a box recon. The other E-5 returned, not “Recon Ricky” He showed up 5 hours later after he found a gut truck to give him a ride back to base. He never gave another combat mission again. Just keep quiet and learn. Just like in 0311 school. Learn but learn how to pivot. There is no way anyone can teach you everything in school. Do as they say, and don’t let on that you know. You will rise up in leadership that way.

Response by SFC Kenneth Kreps made Apr 21 at 2021 3:51 PM

2021-04-21T15:51:04-04:00

Well, first off, welcome to the Army. It'll be different. I certainly hope that you are treated with the respect and courtesy you deserve, not only as an NCO and former Marine, but as an American fighting man. Keep you head up high and love what you do. Expect a little ribbing, take it with a grain of salt. I have no doubt you'll assimilate well. Good Luck, young man.

Response by Cpl John Cogswell made Apr 24 at 2021 5:02 PM

2021-04-24T17:02:37-04:00

Judging by the responses below it sure seems the things you might have loved about the Corps just ain't gonna be there for you in the Army. Draft mentality has never been shed there, and going to visit my brother in law at Fort Bragg in 1992. sure as hell cemented that firmly for me.
He was a Spec 4, and I was a Corporal of Marines. I watched him get an ass chewing near his barracks by his NCO of the day. No big deal but when the Sgt turned his glare on me, he didnt appreciate me telling him I wasn't anywhere in his chain of command, and I was on leave.

Yep, never painted rocks in 3/6 Weapons Co., or any of that other b-s that the Army makes their troops do. He was 82nd Airborne, btw. Did not reenlist. (Shocker, right?)

Response by Sgt Johnathan Cascio made Apr 24 at 2021 7:57 PM

2021-04-24T19:57:14-04:00

The worst thing to do is ask for special consideration

Response by SSG Rick Miller made Apr 26 at 2021 8:23 AM

2021-04-26T08:23:21-04:00

You are just another dude. Check that ego, drop the attitude, listen more than you talk. That's why you've got two ears and one mouth. There are some basic facts that you need to know before you go.
1. Nobody gives two shits about your deployment. I guarantee your drill sergeants and instructors have more combat time than you.
2. Nobody cares you were a Marine.
3. It will take you the same amount of time as every other brand new shiny grunt in the making.
4. You ain't Superman, you ain't special. Deal with it.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Apr 26 at 2021 9:28 PM

2021-04-26T21:28:21-04:00

I have only two rules: Don't Quit and Keep Your Sense of Humor.
For you I would add: Check Your Ego At The Door.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2021 10:07 PM

2021-04-26T22:07:26-04:00

Guess what? You are just going to be another dude. What were you expecting? A red carpet.
I was teaching Digital Theory and how to troubleshoot digital circuits for the US Army. My new MOS required that I go through that course. I had to take the tests. The very tests that I wrote and on top of that they made me teach the class. So guess what. You are just another Army grunt to be. Enjoy.

Response by SSG Gregg Mourizen made May 3 at 2021 3:30 PM

2021-05-03T15:30:21-04:00

There is always something to learn.
I have taught classes, and I have taken endless classes. Many on the same subjects. There are always those who come to me with questions on the subjects that I am considered a Subject Matter Expert. With every class I take, I try to learn something. Find something different to put in the tool box, for later. I even learned some new things in my last months before retirement.

Army tactics and procedures are often quite different than those of the Marines. Everyone knows this. Learn the Army way. Once you have done that, you can try to inject items you thing might be performed better. But you should already know, that you have be on the same sheet of music, or you are wrong. Don't be that guy.

Every instructor is different. Every instructor has the potential to give you something new. Some insight on how or why certain things are done certain ways.
Stay open minded
I even learned some new things in a marksmanship class in my last few months before retirement.

Response by SFC Richard Baerlocher made May 9 at 2021 11:37 PM

2021-05-09T23:37:55-04:00

When you are still active in the marines when you change branches, you will retain your grade. Whether you will be an E-2 or a sergeant during training I don't know. I was stationed at Ft Jackson when we got a new training cycle in and we had no Drill Sergeants on Duty. A former Marine Drill Sergeant was in the new training cycle. He organized the trainees, and had them in formation Monday Morning when the drill sergeants returned from their training. He was immediately promoted to E-3, and upon finishing basic training, he was given his previous grade, even though he had been out of the military for 6 years.
Be yourself, do your best, and you will succeed.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2021 10:08 PM

2021-05-14T22:08:48-04:00

I did that too. Easy and disappointing

Response by MSG Paul L. Ruiz made May 18 at 2021 5:33 PM

2021-05-18T17:33:35-04:00

SGT, I would keep my mouth shut and my eyes and ears open, and get into the Army DNC drill manual, because if you'll going to drill soldiers, you have to know that Marine Corps COD and Army DNC is way different, because the periptery of command and command of execution is on different feet, then what your used to in the Corps. I was a SGT coming into the Army, and going to BNCOC was a BIG challenge, where you have to forget what you know and learn it again, and the instructors will challenge you also, but put the extra effort in with others that know what you're going through and you'll find that the Army is way easier, and you only have to run 2 miles, and do push-ups in their APFT test, so get in the books, and get familiar with their terminology, because it's a new language, and an adventure.

Response by Sgt Alex Casqueira made Jun 7 at 2021 9:16 PM

2021-06-07T21:16:37-04:00

Now I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I know what you're going through and everything because I don't. But what I can tell you is probably 90% of the people in that class with you aren't going to run home the first second they get and try to get their hands on your SRB or something. None of them will know what you dont tell them. If you are scared of getting special treatment for being a Marine stuck in a newly obtained Army uniform then don't provide anyone with the Intel that you are a Marine. It's pretty simple, like don't ask a question if you're scared of the answer. If I were you I'd just sit there and be quiet, just try to soak up how the Army does things because I can tell you that their infantry does things a lot different then we do. I don't think it would be possible for a Marine who has went through ITB to go to infantry units in the Army and not be a liability to be honestly. Probably get in a lot of trouble for doing things that's totally normal in the Corps but Army will look at you like you got a dick growing out of your forehead. Just buckle down and graduate the school. On graduation day if your instructors don't seem to know your name then you are good to go and you weren't the guy talking about the glory days in the Marines the whole time. Just kick everyone's asses at marksmanship:)

Response by LTC Matthew Maki made Jun 24 at 2021 8:57 AM

2021-06-24T08:57:36-04:00

Determine to learn what is new or different and avoid comparisons "when I was in the Marines we did it to this way". You can be a tremendous force to help other recruits to learn procedures, accept hardship, and focus on the mission instead of their misery. In effect your example should be of stability. Your experience may best be served in the basic training environment not by being a know-it-all who looks good and makes others look less good by comparison, but by helping everyone in your squad to be better as a team.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jun 24 at 2021 9:53 AM

2021-06-24T09:53:26-04:00

Free advice from another former Marine.
Prior Marines generally either do exceptionally well, or exceptionally poorly. The best thing you can do is immediately remove any chips that remain on your shoulders, forget all of the Marines "we're better than everyone" brainwashing nonsense, and get ready to adapt to your new environment. Listen a lot. Learn a lot. Talk very little. At least at first.
Start reading Army Regulations. Start with uniforms, awards, customs and courtesies, NCO guides, etc...
It's gonna take you time to get your records straight, so be prepared to be patient. Most S1's aren't used to prior Marines, so you getting your awards, military education, NCOES, etc... straight will be an adventure. Stay patient.
Don't rush towards promotion because you think all of your Marine experience makes you ready to be an Army NCO. It doesn't. Before you rush to the board, make sure you truly understand Army basics, counseling, awards, evaluations, promotions, your MOS, service and programs, uniforms, leaves and passes, all those thousands of things NCO's are expected to know. Remember, it's better to be a high speed E4 than a POS E5. Make sure you're ready to be an Army NCO.
This might seem negative in tone. It's not. I made the same transition and it was the best thing I ever did. In the Army, you'll have a better quality of life, better programs, more education, more training, more varied responsibilities and assignments, more diverse bases and units, and a real opportunity to shine. But remember, you joined the Army. You must adapt. If you don't succeed, the Army will replace you faster than you can walk out the door. Make sure you set yourself up for success. Find another prior Marine, preferably a Senior NCO or Officer for mentorship, guidance and advice. They'll understand the transition. Don't latch on to a junior prior Marine. It remains to be seen whether they'll sink or float.

Response by SSG Jason Clark made Jun 29 at 2021 5:31 PM

2021-06-29T17:31:26-04:00

Just learn to realize that you are an Ex-Marine and nobody special.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2021 8:51 AM

2021-06-30T08:51:09-04:00

Well said and I’d say well informed.

Response by CMSgt Marshall Ray made Jul 4 at 2021 2:51 PM

2021-07-04T14:51:04-04:00

A young man I know well had a similar predicament. He entered the national guard at 17, still in high school. When he departed for initial boot camp over the summer, his grandfather, advised him to not discuss his family's military history. It worked well till the final week.
Grandfather decided he was well enough to attend graduation. grandfather was a veteran of the European campaign until the Bulge. He contacted Fort Campbell I believe, to arrange to billet and he was informed there was nothing available. As he was thanking them for their trouble, he was the consummate gentleman, the clerk asked what rank he was? Major General was the answer.
The conversation changed at that moment and suddenly there was any number of rooms to accommodate his needs.
So back to grandson. At the next morning's assembly the Drill Instructor announced to the entire platoon "I thought I told you to tell me if any of you had distinguished family?" The young grandson was shaking in his boots when the DI got in his face and read the riot act for not letting them know. Grandson's only defense was that the General told him not to. Damned if you do damn if you don't..

Response by Cpl Rufus Williams made Jul 6 at 2021 11:26 PM

2021-07-06T23:26:25-04:00

You have to go because the Marine Corps and the Army do things differently just hang in there and get though it Semper Fi.

Response by PFC Stephen Trynosky made Jul 16 at 2021 11:31 AM

2021-07-16T11:31:15-04:00

You will be expected to LEAD! In basic, 1969, we had a re-tred with a CIB from Korea. He was expected to demonstrate what he had learned 16 years earlier. What I liked about him was the matter of fact way he handled field problems and his steady calmness enabled us to focus on the important stuff rather than the BS.

Response by Sgt Dustin Davis made Jul 22 at 2021 2:10 AM

2021-07-22T02:10:19-04:00

Damn Devil, sold out....

Response by SPC Clayton Ellzey made Aug 2 at 2021 3:16 PM

2021-08-02T15:16:09-04:00

Looking at your mos I think you would be a great asset to the DS

Response by SSG Bob Teachout made Aug 11 at 2021 2:55 AM

2021-08-11T02:55:04-04:00

But then again - you might have a drill sgt that has no deployment.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Aug 18 at 2021 6:54 AM

2021-08-18T06:54:32-04:00

Your instructors will know exactly who you are, day 1. Shut up and only step up when you're asked, cause you'll be chosen quick overall... don't ever tell these guys, "in the marines..."

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Aug 30 at 2021 6:10 PM

2021-08-30T18:10:50-04:00

So the Active Duty transfers and the reclasses comming in via 11 Series are treated with respect their current rank gives them to an extent. The Army has a philosophy that if your in an Army School you are treated as rankless but at the same time, you having earned that rank they are not going to dog you out or wolf pack you unless you do something arrogant in front of the recruits. They will brief you when you arrive on the dos and don'ts and potentially the expanded liberty they will give you that the regular recruits do not have (I don't think they will restrict you to barracks after hours like the regular recruits). The biggest thing is they kind of want you to mentor but at the same time do not get between the DS and the new recruits nor boss them around as your an AI or something. If they ask you dumb questions about combat, you do not have to answer them but you shouldn't be a jerk about it either. Also, don't debunk the mental stressors the DS impose on the new folks. So that's it in a nutshell.

As for when they will insert you into the 22 week program. They will obviously skip week 0 and week 1 because you will have your issue already and know all the BS they cover in those two weeks. However, it is up to the replacement center what makes sense and what is available. They want you through the training as fast as possible vs hanging around. So you could get start of the program or half way through. It helps a lot that you have updated rifle qualification and PT test scores in your Active file before the release.....so that is an advantage because they can look at those and be confident of where you are in those two areas.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2021 4:58 PM

2021-09-12T16:58:31-04:00

If you are an NCO, you eill be treated as an NCO. You will still have to do all the training and meet the standard, but while you are a trainee, you are also an NCO. Keep that part in mind because you will also be expected to act like one around the new recruits to a certain extent.
Dont have a chip on your shoulder going in and there shouldnet be any issues.

source: Good friend of mine just went back through basic as an NCO.

Response by MAJ Steve Warnerski made Sep 13 at 2021 6:31 PM

2021-09-13T18:31:51-04:00

May want to look at it as an opportunity to both learn how the Army does things, AND as a leadership opportunity to help out some of the younger troops who may be having difficulties, with "school stuff" OR Life in General stuff. The Life in General things are, in my experience, the reason why many troops end up leaving well before their normal ETS; drugs, DUI, AWOL, running off at the mouth, etc. You CAN make a difference here.

Response by SGT Gary Stemen made Sep 19 at 2021 12:16 PM

2021-09-19T12:16:36-04:00

Cadre will be aware or your background and expect you to prove yourself. The ego comment is correct, once they know you, expect to be held as an example for others in your unit.

Response by MSG Edward Flint made Sep 24 at 2021 12:52 PM

2021-09-24T12:52:04-04:00

I got the 11B MOS Command directed when I came over from the Marine Corps because every Marine does Infantry Basic in Boot Camp. Also my 31B MOS carried over from the Corps. I did not have to complete any Army Basic Training course. I had an 11 year brake in service I left the Corps as a SGT and came back in the Army as a Corporal, Because I had already been to the NCO academy in the Corps the Army waived PLDC for me and I was promoted to SGT after 18 months in the Army.

Response by SFC Olivero Rodriguez made Sep 24 at 2021 8:46 PM

2021-09-24T20:46:15-04:00

the important thing is that your mind is set. Enjoy the ride and become one of the great leaders.

Response by SGT Glenn E Moody made Sep 26 at 2021 8:18 AM

2021-09-26T08:18:51-04:00

I don't know what your contract is. but when I was doing my Basic Training & AIT @ FT BENNING ARMY INFANTRY SCHOOL. we had some come in to change their MOS to INFANTRY. but it was ARMY to ARMY. they did not have to Re-do basic training again. and only had to do AIT Infantry part of the training. at the time they had to change the MOS to stay in the ARMY. I don't know anything about the MARINE to GREEN program. but this I do know the ARMY makes you work as A team. every MARINE I know have been trained to think they are better than any ARMY personal. and what I do know is in training you are just A trainee. dose not matter your rank combat deployments nothing you did as an active MARINE counts in training everyone is just A trainee period. as far as the recruiter's they all lie to get you to sign on the dotted line period. just like mine did he said 11-B was MECHANIC he lied screwed me period next thing I knew I was off to ARMY INFANTRY SCHOOL instead of Mechanic School period. once I signed the dotted line their was nothing I could do about it. I joined to get my mechanic skills on paper that was my CIVILIAN TRADE I was really good at it. but had nothing on paper. so I was just A very good backyard Mechanic. (so make sure you read and understand your contract before you sign it ) (and leave your MARINE EGO AT HOME) because you will be treated just like all the rest of the trainee's they might make you A squad leader or something like that. but you will only be A trainee period. I hope this help's you best of luck CARRY ON

Response by MSG O'Connor Pat made Sep 26 at 2021 2:27 PM

2021-09-26T14:27:21-04:00

I was a prior service Marine who enlisted in the Army after a two year break in service. I was sent straight to AIT and issued my clothing bag issue and ID card there without any kind of orientation, it was culture shock for sure. After my first four years I re-classified into the airborne infantry as a SGT/E-5. First, I went to Ft Benning for jump school and then infantry OSUT. The class I was put in was right around their third week of training. My rank of SGT was respected as an NCO and instead of living in the squad bay with the rest of the recruits my bunk was in a small day room. I was told that I didn't need to get smoke with the other recruits, but I wasn't going to just stand there like a non-hacking, no team player idiot and did everything the privates did and tried to set a good example. There were weekend passes and compared to Marine Corps boot camp was much easier which is fine because I was there to learn. As a former Marine I felt guilty after I joined the Army, but if I had to do it al over again I would have gone straight into the Army; I found much more opportunity for the taking in the Army, so make the best of it. The Army has such a big budget and so many schools that all you have to do is ask and perform and many opportunities will open up for you. Volunteer to go airborne, you won't regret it.

Response by MSG Clyde Mills made Sep 26 at 2021 4:18 PM

2021-09-26T16:18:45-04:00

Each prior service soldier has a different experience going through Infantry School. Yes you'll have had a Marine Deployment under your belt. But so will others possibly in the Company and or Platoon you'll be assigned to. Most likely you might be made a Squad leader or even the Platoon Guide. But remember your just another recruit going through Infantry School and you'll most likely have to do everything everyone else is doing regardless of your past experience in the Marine Corps.

Response by MGySgt Jerome Lee made Sep 27 at 2021 4:33 AM

2021-09-27T04:33:25-04:00

Although you'll have to go through recruit training again, I don't think you should be treated like some dude, however, you may have to prove yourself. In my opinion, Sgt and a GySgt are the two most influential leadership ranks who also get shit done. Once people know your history, I think they'll give you the respect you deserve. Do not going expecting people to bow down, nor with a "chip on your shoulder." Your prior military experience, leadership skills, character, and attitude will "speak for itself," they will come in handy when the time is right. Semper Fi!

Response by SSG Ronald Ralph made Sep 28 at 2021 6:25 AM

2021-09-28T06:25:39-04:00

Instead of getting tons of unverified opinions here, go talk to your local Army Recruiter. They have access to the Army Regulations for Enlistment. They can give you the straight facts, and not opinions. They can look up to see if you’re even qualified to enlist in the Army. You’ll need to bring your DD-214 with you so they can look up your discharge code. Have you had any field grade UCMJ action? Were you discharged honorably? How long have you been out of the Marines? Do you have any civilian misdemeanor or felony charges, whether completed or open? Those are some of the things that they will ask you. And, depending on how long ago you were discharged as a Sgt, may mean you may/may not retain that rank if you are eligible to enlist. The other factor is if the Army is accepting Prior Service enlistments. Do you have any Military Service Obligation left?

When I was an Army Recruiter from 1989-1992, the Army wasn’t accepting prior service. That may have changed now.

But, before anyone can answer your questions, you must first go see your local recruiter to see if you’re even eligible and whether or not the Army is accepting prior service. Without those steps, the answers won’t matter.

Response by LTC Ronald Stephens made Oct 28 at 2021 10:55 PM

2021-10-28T22:55:44-04:00

I'll give you the same advice I gave my son when he enlisted. "Keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut." For you there will be several advantages here: The fact that you are prior service will be known by your DIs ; Try to not draw negative attention to yourself by flaunting your experience, maintain a low profile. Try to follow instructions precisely, this should not be a problem. Speak only when spoken to. Best of fortune to you.

Response by LTC Ronald Stephens made Oct 28 at 2021 11:00 PM

2021-10-28T23:00:14-04:00

I'll give you the same advice that I gave my son when he enlisted: Keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut. Your prior service will likely be known by your DIs and they will be testing you. Follow instructions precisely. Don't flaunt your prior service to your fellow trainees (yes you are a trainee). Speak only when addressed by your drill instructor. You may have to bite your tongue when you disagree with your trainers but do it (remember you are being tested). Best of luck to you

Response by 1SG John Highfill made Oct 29 at 2021 7:55 AM

2021-10-29T07:55:50-04:00

A light breeze

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 29 at 2021 11:58 AM

2021-10-29T11:58:10-04:00

Are you tactically sound as an infantryman?

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made Oct 29 at 2021 1:32 PM

2021-10-29T13:32:25-04:00

Infantry school will be easy!

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Oct 29 at 2021 1:51 PM

2021-10-29T13:51:21-04:00

SFC Private RallyPoint Member gave, as usual, sound advice. Beyond that, when I went Army from the Navy, back then Navy and USAF prior service HAD to do Army Basic. "Infantry" school may be different for you. One of my sons, prior Army Reserve did his Basic at Ft. jackson, SC. When he went Regular Army, he opted for Infantry and Airborne, and RIP (Ranger wannabe). He did have to do "Infantry" school which is both Army Basic Combat Training, AND Infantry, or emphasis on Infantry. He joined a class that was four weeks from graduation since he already had Basic Training.
Funny thing was, to him it seemed the Infantry Basic was backwards. In other words, the last four weeks, they covered more of what he already had at Ft. Jackson, and NOT so much focus on Infantry stuff. When he was sort of complaining about that at the time, I gave him SFC Private RallyPoint Member's advice - "Shut mouth ... open ears - you *WILL* ALWAYS learn something." It was almost the motto for fire fighting training where we often took the same class yearly, KNOWING that we'd learn something we didn't catch before.
You may not loose a stripe ... it would be interesting to know.

Response by LTC Patrick Crow made Oct 29 at 2021 5:26 PM

2021-10-29T17:26:26-04:00

Bored

Response by CPT William Fahey made Oct 30 at 2021 10:45 AM

2021-10-30T10:45:01-04:00

Good advice from others that all students are equal. Do not bring up your past experience to anyone and you'll have an easier time completing the school.

Response by SFC Gilberto Rivera made Oct 30 at 2021 10:52 PM

2021-10-30T22:52:15-04:00

First, thank you for your continued service. Your prior military experience is valuable and it will assist you, more importantly you can emerge as a mentor to the ones that will struggle. I will personally not state your prior service with the marines until the last day, you don't need to and the truth nothing good will come from it, all you will be doing is placing a unnecessary target on you.

Response by COL Thomas McGrath made Oct 31 at 2021 7:49 AM

2021-10-31T07:49:45-04:00

Infantry training is tough, challenging and exhausting no matter whether you are army or marines. As a Vet you will know the routine, so help out, blend in, and when necessary display leadership and expertise. Don’t brag about “how’s it done” or marines do it this way. Just do it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 4:46 PM

2021-10-31T16:46:36-04:00

As a marine if you don’t have 5 years break in service you be an insert: skip basic and join AIT class.
For more info check this link; https://m.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/continue-serving/transitioning-services/inter-service-transfer-program.m.html

During training,you should be treated as a permanent party and not as IET.
TRADOC Regulation 350-6
4-15. Reclassified/MOS trained/prior service Soldiers
a. Reclassified/MOS trained and prior service Soldiers are those individuals, in any grade, who have previously completed IET and are attending skill level 1 training in IET units as a result of reclassification or enlistment actions. Reclassified and prior service Soldiers are not considered IET Soldiers; however, they are assigned to IET units. This definition does not apply to those Soldiers who failed to complete the requirements for the award of a MOS as part of the initial IET process. Reclassified and prior service Soldiers must meet all course requirements for graduation (APFT, etc.), unless otherwise stipulated in this regulation.
b. Reclassification policy, see AR 350-1 for reclassification requirements.
(1) Prior service personnel entering the Active Army are not required to attend BCT if they completed Army or U.S. Marine Corps basic training, or completed training for U.S. Air Force or U.S. Navy Special Operations Forces, or U.S. Air Force Security Police, and have less than a 3- year break in service.
(2) Prior service personnel entering the AC will attend Army BCT if they have not completed Army or U.S. Marine Corps basic training, or completed training for U.S. Air Force or
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U.S. Navy Special Operations Forces, or U.S. Air Force Security Police, and have more than a 3- year break in service.
(3) Prior service personnel are not considered IET Soldiers but will comply with applicable regulations, standards, and training requirements.
(4) Prior service personnel who enlist for an MOS held during their previous enlistment and have less than a 3-year break in service are assigned directly to operational units.
(5) Prior service personnel who enlist for a MOS not previously held, and have less than a 3 year break in service will attend AIT in the new MOS. If the new MOS is taught in the OSUT mode, the individual Soldier will enter training at a point in training where the AIT portion of the instruction starts and continue until all MOS training is accomplished.
c. Treatment.
(1) Prior service personnel in the pay grade of private (E-1) through specialist (E-4) should be offered non-IET barracks if available and feasible. If not, they may be billeted with the general IET population.
(2) Prior service personnel in the pay grade of sergeant (E-5) through sergeant major (E-9) are billeted separately from other IET Soldiers. Prior service NCOs are billeted in a separate building when possible. If a separate building is not available, then on a different floor of an IET barracks. If a different floor within the building is not possible, then within a separate room (not in an open bay). Prior service NCOs may be billeted with IET Soldiers as a last resort with approval of the USACIMT. Requests should be submitted in memorandum format. Billeting NCOs with IET Soldiers is not the intent and should be a last resort.
(3) The billeting of prior service NCOs also applies to RECBNs. RECBNs will immediately identify prior service personnel and ensure the gaining BCT/OSUT units are informed of the prior service personnel’s status, rank, pay grade, and billeting standards. If necessary, prior service BCT/OSUT NCOs may be housed in AIT facilities.
(4) Privileges for reclassified and prior service personnel.
(a) Although reclassified Soldiers are subject to IET policies and procedures, their privileges should be the same as those of permanent party members of equal grade. They are treated with the dignity and respect due their grade.
(b) The company commander determines specific privileges based on such factors as grade, training performance, self-discipline, motivation, and conduct.
(c) Fraternization between reclassified, prior service Soldiers, IET Soldiers, and cadre is forbidden in accordance with AR 600-20.
d. Duties/responsibilities.
TRADOC Regulation 350-6
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TRADOC Regulation 350-6
(1) Commanders may take advantage of the experience and leadership abilities of reclassified and prior service Soldiers, and use them to augment their cadre. However, the primary duty of reclassified and prior service Soldiers is to attend training and become technically proficient in their new MOS.
(2) Prior service NCOs in training may assist with IET Soldiers with regular cadre oversight after appropriate orientation and certification by the company commander/1SG on TRADOC policy regarding leadership and treatment of IET Soldiers.
(3) AIT/OSUT commanders will evaluate each prior service Soldier's proficiency in all areas (not just MOS subjects) and ensure training is provided, as required. Use reclassified and prior service Soldiers who are proficient in common tasks as demonstrators and assistant instructors.
(4) Commanders are encouraged to integrate reclassified and prior service personnel with IET Soldiers during training to enhance training by taking advantage of their knowledge, experience, and leadership abilities.
e. This paragraph is not applicable to individual ready reserve (IRR) Soldiers reactivated to military service. Appendix J, the IRR mobilization (MOB) training strategy.

You will be separated from E4s and below.
You will keep your cellphone on you.
Rule of thumb ,you need to show respect to the Drill sergeants,your fellow trainees ; as a matter of fact everyone because respect is reciprocal.Shut up,listen,and don’t try to run the show own your own,just do your best but in a low key manner.

Inter-Service Transfer Program | GoArmy.com

Transfer from other military branches into the Army and continue your military career using the Operation Blue to Green program.

Response by CPL Raul Perez Jr made Nov 1 at 2021 9:43 AM

2021-11-01T09:43:33-04:00

A little different, but my West Point Cadet had CIB enlisted soldiers report on “R” day, they were smoked like the rest of the Plebes.

Response by MAJ Ronald Mandell made Nov 4 at 2021 10:23 PM

2021-11-04T22:23:58-04:00

Well, first off as a Marine I would not go Army. I did so, and found it to be terribly disappointing for the next 25 years until I retired. First off, the Army is not as well organized as the Marines. It’s too large and unwieldy. Esprit de Corps is practically non existence, as is pride. You will never be able to stop comparing it with the Marines, and it will never measure up. It you would like to stay in the military, “retire” into the Air Force, or better yet, the Coast Guard with banker’s hours. The retention rate in the Coast Guard, unlike the Marines and Army is over 80%!! Why do you think that is? It’s because it’s member love it, and would rather fight than get out! Coast Guardsmen are the happiest campers you will ever might. Job satisfaction is extremely high because they help to save lives everyday. Instead of spending a career trying to something that may never come, they spend a career actually

Response by SSG Michael Doolittle made Nov 6 at 2021 12:24 AM

2021-11-06T00:24:39-04:00

I believe it will be a Cake Walk, maybe Ranger or Special Forces will challenge you, but infantry school for one who has been through Marine Infantry training, just be humble...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2021 8:53 PM

2021-11-07T20:53:57-05:00

The best advice? Keep quiet and don't let on about any expertise or experiences previously. Certainly never spout off along the lines of "Well, when I was in Ramadi or Fallujah we didn't do X we did Z.." Further into the training cycle if you want to divulge your prior stuff, do for it. But be guarded to whom and when you divulge details. The Corps and the army are too distinct branches. If you were Force Reconn or what have you the temptation your seniors might have would be to put you in charge as Weapons Squad leader etc. This might be the time to bite your tongue, stand in the back rank and just do as your told, smiling inwardly the whole time

Response by SGT Eliyahu Rooff made Nov 8 at 2021 12:40 AM

2021-11-08T00:40:57-05:00

Frankly, a lot of it may come as something of a letdown. Just keep in mind that Marines and Army do some stuff the same and some stuff differently, so be flexible.

Response by SSG Jim Schimon made Nov 8 at 2021 9:27 AM

2021-11-08T09:27:28-05:00

Sorry to say When you first get to the army you are just some dude . But when you get to your unit that is where you put your input . As I was Army. and then national Guard.In the Guards as a Scout / 19D I had a lot of Marines That came threw .All I can say is when your new don't try to change The hole unit wait till you get put int a leadership roll Team leader Squad leader . But if you come into the army with I am better than you army people will have made the wrong choice in joining a new team Give it time and then you can make your new team better .

Response by MAJ Carl Owen made Nov 8 at 2021 5:44 PM

2021-11-08T17:44:56-05:00

The Army is just like the Marines for people new to it. Keep your mouth shut and do as you're told. That's the advice I gave to my own son when he enlisted in the Army.

Response by SSgt Dennis Vasil made Nov 9 at 2021 12:54 AM

2021-11-09T00:54:30-05:00

You will become a some type of platoon leader position. you will out rank most of the other recruits . Then they will pick you to help them lead and train the New troops. You will get respect because of your prior service, and a Few extra Benny's for that prior Service TOO! Remember they are Raw troops. Good luck and Shine them Boots Troop!

Response by SFC Rosvelt Singleton made Nov 11 at 2021 3:08 AM

2021-11-11T03:08:54-05:00

It depends on how much time you have out or break in service. When I transferred from the Marines to the Army, I had 3 months break in service and did not have to attend Infantry School and yes, I was a SGT (0311).

Response by Cpl Billy Becton made Nov 12 at 2021 9:37 AM

2021-11-12T09:37:31-05:00

I have some advice you will be prouder being a Marine than having been in the Army .In Fl. We can get Service tags for our autos ,you will see 20 Marine tags to 1 Army . More pride in being a Marine through out life.Stay a Marine !

Response by AN John Pepper made Nov 15 at 2021 8:28 AM

2021-11-15T08:28:22-05:00

No matter what happens, remember as a former Marine, (is there such a thing?) you are twice the soldier of anyone else in your infantry school. At least that is what my Marine friends tell me. I'm smiling as I type this, don't hate on me too bad.
Semper Fi

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2021 12:22 PM

2021-11-28T12:22:03-05:00

Been there don that. Just not on the infantry side.

As soon as every army soldier/NCO around you knows you are prior service Marine, they'll have a lot of questions. Some won't want to approach you if they don't have to.

Response by SFC John Cousineau Sr. made Dec 3 at 2021 2:47 PM

2021-12-03T14:47:25-05:00

I'm a former Marine for 6yrs, Semper Fi and then changed to Army were I retired from. If your able to transition straight to Army you'll be a lucky one. Even though I ETS'd the Marines held my paperwork for 90 days before I could enlist in the Army. That caused me to lose one rank. The good thing was no basic training and went straight to school. Even though it was a different career field I breezed through it with all my military experience. The training Sargents treated me different as they did all retreads. Better I believe since the rest were just out of boot. I found no change in the time I had to spend in actual school. I think because of my maturity and skills I came out high in my class and got a better assignment. Despite my reduction in rank I was promoted quickly because of time in service and previous awards. I guess being in Vietnam helped. Good luck on your future endeavors. Remember once a Marine always a Marine.

Response by SGT Kenneth Duncan made Dec 8 at 2021 10:40 PM

2021-12-08T22:40:46-05:00

Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Just like everyone else.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2021 5:56 PM

2021-12-09T17:56:48-05:00

Everyone talking trash here needs check fire.
Marines Don’t go to Basic Training.
Ever.
Army Soldiers are required to attend Marine Corps Bootcamp regardless of rank. Fact. That SGT DRILL INSTRUCTOR will treat you like the private you will be, because… militarily speaking…. You ain't there yet.

A fucked SNCO who believes that, is exactly that. A fucked up Soldier. Remember i said SOLDIER, not Leader!
Leaders understand how to use their tools instead of proclaiming checking EGO at the door. Perhaps you should check yours.

Response by PFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2021 1:48 AM

2021-12-10T01:48:15-05:00

When i went through OSUT, we had prior service who were given a lot of leeway. They didnt participate in the shark attack, they were bunked in a separate room away from the bay with fresh recruits, were allowed to have their phones, and when we weren't formed up, marching, or doing training, they didn't have to participate(random smokings, random BS, shit like that). They were also placed in leadership positions (Platoon guide, squad leader, ETC). Our DS leaned on them a lot to help us learn shit that they already knew.

Response by Capt Rich Buckley made Dec 11 at 2021 11:06 AM

2021-12-11T11:06:12-05:00

Have faith that your leadership insights will guide you meritoriously. Consider this approach. When observing leadership you agree with based on your vast and important experience, perhaps join in the process by speaking up and saying, I agree with _________ ‘s plan because…. X, Y and Z. As long as you believe in your comments and aren’t making them for purposes of self-promotion, but making them instead because you believe in them and your input is expected as a team member or one being put in harms way, you should do fine. Humility eventually stands out, not as weakness, but as respect for everyone else and a form of true leadership. Let everyone else take credit, as long as the mission is carried out successfully. When there is mission failure, own it. Of course strive always to choose words very carefully and speak truth. Never loose sight of the big picture of the war being fought whether the mission is successful or a seeming failure. If you don’t believe in the war you are fighting, move on and get out and redirect the arrow of your life’s path. That is your higher purpose.

Response by Capt Rich Buckley made Dec 11 at 2021 11:07 AM

2021-12-11T11:07:55-05:00

Have faith that your leadership insights will guide you meritoriously. Consider this approach. When observing leadership you agree with based on your vast and important experience, perhaps join in the process by speaking up making a comment in the form of a question. As long as you believe in your comments and aren’t making them for purposes of self-promotion, but making them instead because you believe in them and your input is expected as a team member or one being put in harms way, you should do fine. Humility eventually stands out, not as weakness, but as respect for everyone else and a form of true leadership. Let everyone else take credit, as long as the mission is carried out successfully. When there is mission failure, own it. Of course strive always to choose words very carefully and speak truth. Never loose sight of the big picture of the war being fought whether the mission is successful or a seeming failure. If you don’t believe in the war you are fighting, move on and get out and redirect the arrow of your life’s path. That is your higher purpose. Do you realize you are in a war right now? As you are promoted up through the ranks, you will be tasked to face demons that test your ethics and morals as never before. The services need personnel who are prepared to face these tasks with inner strength that does not crumble like a house of cards. Only truth seekers need apply.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2021 11:43 AM

2021-12-12T11:43:21-05:00

As a Senior Drill Instructor I used my prior service Soldiers to my advantage. I placed them in leadership positions in my platoons and left them there the entire cycle. It helped build you up for your next assignment but also placed you in a position of greater influence to the less experienced trainees. I say all that to say this…not all Drill instructors think the same way. Don’t be surprised if you are placed in the back row and told to keep quiet. Just be ready to be an asset to your new team and learn the differences in service. Welcome back to the force.

Response by SPC Rich Jackson made Dec 30 at 2021 4:35 PM

2021-12-30T16:35:34-05:00

Now that we're 10 months past the original posting, and a solid 5 months after your original Marine ETS date, I'm curious what REALLY happened Sgt Private RallyPoint Member Did you end up on day 0? Reclass school? What rank did you bring over?

I hate stories with no closure!
V/R

Response by PFC Eric Stosius made Dec 30 at 2021 9:39 PM

2021-12-30T21:39:26-05:00

Semper Fi, they will be jealous!

Response by MSG Peter Toelle made Jan 25 at 2022 1:42 PM

2022-01-25T13:42:42-05:00

First, good luck! Second, I too was an active-duty Marine that actually got out and then went into the Army 10 years later. Not sure why you are going through infantry school unless you were not infantry in the Marine Corps. I was an 0311, kept my rank with time and grade (even after 10 years) and did not have to attend 11B or PLDC (I had already attended MC NCO Academy). I signed on the dotted line and was awarded 11B and signed up for BNOC as soon as I arrived at my unit. I was told all of my schools attended while in the Marine Corps would far exceed what was required in the Army. If you are not currently MC Infantry, then it makes sense if you want the MOS. Hold on, buckle up, do as your told and enjoy Sand Hill!

Response by CPT Kenneth Bartlett made Feb 15 at 2022 11:20 PM

2022-02-15T23:20:17-05:00

I attended OCS Officer's Candidate Scholl after having served 1o years as an EM enlisted man. It didn't take long for a couple of other prior enlisted to speak up out of turn, correcting and EM instructor. The TAC officer immediately called them out of ranks and sent them packing never more to be seen. I remember complaining to my room mate about how tough it was going to be, looking for sympathy. He quickly set me straight, saying yes OCS was going to be tough, but not to make it any worse by complaining to him. I quickly apologized to my room mate and said I was wrong and wouldn't repeat my error. We both graduated as 2lt and were soon off to Vietnam and I never saw him again, I sure hope he fared well. I ended up serving a second tour later on as a Captain Infantry Cmdr. PS I earned a serious purple heart during both tours. I am retired with twenty years and will be 84 years old Feb 21, 2022. PS one of my classmates Vladimir Sobichevsky a Russian born soldier attended my class, and he retired as a Full Colonel and died July 2016. He was a great candidate and and great officer. Last I saw of him was as he was entering Costco in Sand City and stopped to say hello. He was a soldiers Soldier, I think he attended just about every school the Army Offered, including green Beret Special Forces. Det. A.

Response by PFC Shawn West made Mar 3 at 2022 3:08 AM

2022-03-03T03:08:54-05:00

When I first got to basic at Benning, had one guy in our 30th AG barracks. He made sure to tell everyone, and I quote, "I'm former Marine." He reminded us all of it, constantly. I was brand new to the military, so, I didn't quite know what to think but over the course of the 4 years I spent as Active Duty Army, I realized that that guy was an absolute tool and that there must have been something negative from his time in the Marine Corp because I have never met a Marine in the civilian world who called themselves a, 'former Marine.'

Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 3 at 2022 8:49 AM

2022-03-03T08:49:53-05:00

Best to keep your “when I was in the marines we did it this way” comments to yourself.

Response by SP5 Richard Unice made Mar 5 at 2022 7:13 PM

2022-03-05T19:13:33-05:00

Elvis was drafted.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 6 at 2022 11:36 AM

2022-03-06T11:36:30-05:00

You should have no problem with the physical component, you may need some liquid proof bandages for biting your tung, as you will need to do you don’t step on it. Many tasks will appear similar, but there are enough differences that will will note to make it interesting.

You are just another Soldier, accept that and you may find that the Drill Sgt. May elevate you to a trainjng leadership role where you can hone your skills in leadership more suited for the Army. Again, much the same just enough to keep it interesting. If they do not, or you are not interested, be careful what peer role you take on outside the scope of official leadership. These young former civilians will look up to you. Stay within your boundaries and bite your tung.

Response by Sgt Gary Thompson made Mar 10 at 2022 9:32 AM

2022-03-10T09:32:59-05:00

My question is, your a Marine why go army? Once a Marine always a Marine. SF !

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Mar 14 at 2022 12:12 PM

2022-03-14T12:12:21-04:00

From a Senior Officer's perspective, it would be my expectation that my TI's/DI's/etc. will take advantage of all the resources they have in any particular class. You are one of those resources, and I recommend that you present yourself as one, when the question comes up (but only if the question is asked). Otherwise, you should have some advanced skills (or, at least some skills that a slick-sleeve or one striper won't have). Use them if they apply or will help somebody else.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2022 8:32 PM

2022-03-14T20:32:44-04:00

You will be treated like a dud going through infantry school, everyone else will be too. How long, don't worry, 11-Bush is always open at the divisions.
While in the 82nd ABN 2/505th Inf, our XO was prier Marines, and he was one of the best officers we ever had, much better than the newbie Lt's out of West Point.
You'll fit right in the unit.

Response by SP5 John Burleson made Mar 16 at 2022 11:46 AM

2022-03-16T11:46:11-04:00

Ah, I've read a few responses that indicate you won't receive special treatment from the
army. On the other hand, your Marine training will get you lots of gold stars. Furthermore, your platoon mates will recognize your devious Corps training and will follow your lead. I had my squad marching to commands like "Hippity hop! Group stop!" You'll do fine, Marine as long as you remember that's what you are: a Marine.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Mar 19 at 2022 4:40 PM

2022-03-19T16:40:41-04:00

What will infantry school be like as a prior service SGT from the marines that already has a combat deployment under their belt goin army ?

A cakewalk.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Mar 19 at 2022 6:43 PM

2022-03-19T18:43:53-04:00

A mistake!!!

Response by SFC Allen Murphy made Mar 24 at 2022 6:29 PM

2022-03-24T18:29:14-04:00

Just yell “oohrah!” a lot.

Response by SPC Julio R. made May 23 at 2022 12:23 PM

2022-05-23T12:23:19-04:00

Prior service gets treated a lil different but be ready to get the full green weenie. Either way thank you for raising your right hand and for signing the dotted line. Welcome to the United States Army family and thank you for your service.

Response by SGT Dave Hamilton made Jul 17 at 2022 5:31 PM

2022-07-17T17:31:45-04:00

You will be treated accordingly. They will know you're prior service and likely you already have a bit of rank so they'll expect you to be a role model and help set the standards. It's not your job to Manipulate the students as you already know what perminant party is like so give basic answers as you'll never know what each unit is like I was in 10th and 82nd areas so trust me very different expectations. Just be the solider to look up to and not the arrogant I'm props service guy.