PFC Private RallyPoint Member 4258108 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NTC is being put directly in the middle of a semester. <br />I joined to get through college, i am running solely on a full tuition scholarship that i would lose by attending. Tried talking to chain of command about issue, they more or less said its my problem not theirs. Im not going to drop out of college on my last year because of a 1 month training event. The question is as a reservist what punishment am i realistically looking at by not showing up? (I&#39;ve never gotten a &quot;U&quot; but i hear they can only give 4 a month now and the amount is no longer 8 possibly just PNN but its really all i can hope for at this point)? What would be my punishment for not showing up for an NTC deployment as a member of the USAR? 2019-01-04T07:07:36-05:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 4258108 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NTC is being put directly in the middle of a semester. <br />I joined to get through college, i am running solely on a full tuition scholarship that i would lose by attending. Tried talking to chain of command about issue, they more or less said its my problem not theirs. Im not going to drop out of college on my last year because of a 1 month training event. The question is as a reservist what punishment am i realistically looking at by not showing up? (I&#39;ve never gotten a &quot;U&quot; but i hear they can only give 4 a month now and the amount is no longer 8 possibly just PNN but its really all i can hope for at this point)? What would be my punishment for not showing up for an NTC deployment as a member of the USAR? 2019-01-04T07:07:36-05:00 2019-01-04T07:07:36-05:00 SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member 4258182 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well I know it sounds harsh but ive seen this a lot and no matter what DUTY/Orders will always trump your civilian side. You signed a contract simple as that. But I have never seen a command that wasn&#39;t willing to work with a soldier to help him/her out. I would suggest use your Battalion Commander open door policy (I&#39;ve never seen one that doesn&#39;t have one) tell him your situation I&#39;m pretty sure they will help you out in your situation especially being your last year of college and the military pushes hard for soldiers to get there degree. <br />Now if this NTC rotation has a deployment coming after that might be a different situation. <br /><br />Your question is what punishment are you looking at? If there are orders cut with your name on them and you refuse to go a lot of different things can happen there are about 4 articles I can think of under UCMJ that they can hit you with and I have seen it done especially if orders have been cut. Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2019 7:31 AM 2019-01-04T07:31:10-05:00 2019-01-04T07:31:10-05:00 SGM Private RallyPoint Member 4258189 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If your NTC rotation is your unit&#39;s annual training, you can be discharged for AWOL for failing to report the first day of AT orders.<br />Civilian employers and schools are required by law to accommodate a reserve Soldier&#39;s drill, AT and deployment requirements, (that&#39;s why your chain of command said it was your problem, but it would have helped if they explained this part), so you need to start talking to your instructors today about rescheduling any tests or due dates to before or after NTC. Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2019 7:34 AM 2019-01-04T07:34:27-05:00 2019-01-04T07:34:27-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 4258258 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You&#39;ll need to really work this one. Does your school have a military liaison office or military affairs office or some sort? I recommend going there, your Dean of Students, or some other faculty/administration advocate who can help you work something out with your professors. Your school may have a policy on military issues. If it&#39;s a public school, maybe your State has some sort of state-specific law, or state department that can advocate for you. Maybe your State representative/Senator can do something. On the Army side, will your leadership be willing to write you a letter explaining the situation? Does the Reserve have some sort of Education Office? We in the Guard have our own state Education Office who would probably help with this to reach out to the school and come up with a solution. This is not an easy thing to do, and you will need to put in some leg work. But the last thing you want is to expose yourself to a general or OTH discharge which may affect your employment search post college. There&#39;s no silver bullet that will solve this issue, but you need to get creative and resourceful to find a solution. Good luck! Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2019 8:21 AM 2019-01-04T08:21:13-05:00 2019-01-04T08:21:13-05:00 Tuan Anh 4258484 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>a lot of ppl in my unit didnt go to NTC, i dont really know what happen to them. Response by Tuan Anh made Jan 4 at 2019 10:01 AM 2019-01-04T10:01:17-05:00 2019-01-04T10:01:17-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 4258526 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, one of the punishments could be that your rank changes from meaning Private First Class to Private Friggin Civilian Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2019 10:16 AM 2019-01-04T10:16:45-05:00 2019-01-04T10:16:45-05:00 MAJ Raúl Rovira 4260484 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At one point I asked for extensions from the academic staff because of military duties. Perhaps that is an option. Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Jan 5 at 2019 12:01 AM 2019-01-05T00:01:18-05:00 2019-01-05T00:01:18-05:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 4260518 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well - even if you “joined to get through college”...you are well aware that there were certain training events (annual training, monthly drills) that you would have to attend. The Army decided that your unit would attend an NTC rotation - it happens. If you have orders (which you will if you are doing a 30 day rotation)...I find it hard to believe that your school would penalize you and you would forfeit your scholarship. Who told you that you would lose it? I have a feeling that person is uninformed. Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 12:21 AM 2019-01-05T00:21:21-05:00 2019-01-05T00:21:21-05:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 4260850 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have gotten some good feedback on this thank you all very much, but unfortunately for the Army im not throwing my entire life away by dropping out of college for a 1 month AT in the Winter (arent these supposed to be in the summer anyway?) Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 7:17 AM 2019-01-05T07:17:27-05:00 2019-01-05T07:17:27-05:00 SGM Bill Frazer 4261313 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>1. Then you are a Fool. 2. Its about serving the Nation, not your own desires. 3. Missing movement is punishable by UCMJ, as well a disobeying a direct order. 4. If you can&#39;t work it out with Command, that is indeed your problem- they are not there to keep you happy, but to keep the unit trained up to standards. 5. You swore an oath at enlistment, there were no cravats in it about serving when convenient for you! 6. If Command chooses you would be eligible for at least 1 if not 2 ART-15&#39;s, lose 1 or more stripes, 7 to 14+ days pay, bar to re-enlistment (not that I would care to let you) and quite possible a chapter from the Army, that might haunt you for the rest of your life. Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 5 at 2019 10:34 AM 2019-01-05T10:34:04-05:00 2019-01-05T10:34:04-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 4261964 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>PFC Wilson,<br /><br />It appears from your post your “full tuition scholarship” was provided by the US Army as a benefit for your service. The first thing I recommend that you do is review your scholarship contract. I have used Army education benefits and my sons and none of them state you lose benefits for an interruption in your educational program. Assuming that is correct, you don’t really have a problem except the inconvenience of a one semester delay. Youl m Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 3:02 PM 2019-01-05T15:02:52-05:00 2019-01-05T15:02:52-05:00 WO1 Private RallyPoint Member 4262885 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did you just say NTC deployment... Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 11:21 PM 2019-01-05T23:21:10-05:00 2019-01-05T23:21:10-05:00 2019-01-04T07:07:36-05:00