What would happen if I were to fail ALC?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:55:29 -0500

What happen if someone failed ALC?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2017 3:02 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:02:33 -0500

Notification is sent to your Chain and your CSM. Then you will have some explaining to do. Then pray you can get another shot at ALC in the future.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 25 at 2017 6:24 PM

COL Charles Williams — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 18:24:07 -0500

Why would you SSG Private RallyPoint Member? You need to do what it takes to complete the course in a satisfactory manner. If not, your future in the Army will be limited.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2017 12:03 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 12:03:40 -0500

Fail ALC? well if the SM gets a "failed to achieve course standards " on the 1059 it could mean that the SM should consider seeking for a career outside the Army. If the SM gets dismissed from the course due health or administrator issues, he/she might get a second chance. Depending on the branch and the needs of the Army, the SM could continue their career and retire.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2017 2:10 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:10:05 -0500

very few military schools are designed for you to fail

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Feb 27 at 2017 10:01 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 22:01:59 -0500

I would Say it is your career on the line If you like the military I would pass the course If you are having problems bring it up to instructor of that Class. I took 34 military schools and passed all of them. So pay close attention on what they are trying to teach you. Good Luck
SSG MARK FRANZEN
USA VET

Response by CW5 Sam R. Baker made Mar 2 at 2017 8:53 AM

CW5 Sam R. Baker — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 08:53:10 -0500

We have this situation occur in the WO community and well no Soldier is different. First and foremost, why would anyone want to fail? Checking out and as 1SG Gomez said, courses are not designed that way, if someone fails it is usually an individual decision and intentional or disciplinary. The result is ALWAYS a 1059 having not met course standards if merely for failing from the academic side and that usually will follow your file to every board and action forward. Not a good situation to put one's self in.

Response by SFC Daniel Zelch made Mar 2 at 2017 7:28 PM

SFC Daniel Zelch — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:28:09 -0500

I retired in 2001 and things have certainly changed. I will assume that ALC is what use to be called ANCOC. How in the hell can one fail. Put fort a little effort in the areas you know you are weak in. One never quits, gives in or fails, this is just not acceptable.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 25 at 2018 8:05 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:05:16 -0500

You should have a hard time getting promoted and might even have a bar to re-enlist given to them.

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Oct 12 at 2019 3:36 PM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 15:36:53 -0400

I wouldn’t say NCO Leadership School was a cake walk, but if you didn’t score high you just didn’t try very hard. Buds training is tough it’s designed to weed out the weak, but basic training isn’t tough it’s just a hassle, ground weeks at Ft Benning wasn’t hard it’s just a hassle. Unless your in some type of SF program they’re not tough it’s more of a hassle. Of course, they’re not trying to fail anyone, but the basics you know, they’re just building on that, but the bottom end requirements of most classes are very simple.

Response by SFC Daniel Zelch made Oct 13 at 2019 8:24 AM

SFC Daniel Zelch — Sun, 13 Oct 2019 08:24:15 -0400

It sounds like you lack confidence in your ability to meet the satisfactory standards. Perhaps you tend to second guess your abilities. Be confident, if you know you are weak in a particular subject matter rehearse, practice, work on it. Above all stop thinking about achieving a passing grade. Your mind set is all wrong. I was an Infantryman, our mindset was not to just pass, one should always seek to maximize everything you do. In my day it was called BNCOC. B stood for basic. I don't know what is covered in "ALC". Perhaps I am all wrong, I am from a different ARMY.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Oct 15 at 2019 8:51 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:51:13 -0400

why are they wasting time with people who I Believe don't want be in military if already have attitude what happens if I fail ALC? I spent 16.5 yrs in the military I went to 34 different schools and never failed any I always was eager to study for any tests never did say what happens if fail well that was never crossed my mind. I wish things were different and I could stayed in but do to 1 NCOER that was bad and my Career was over with and I tell the people that made my career over with I been out sense 1990 and I still wish things could have been a better I enjoyed my career while I was in. SSG MARK FRANZEN
USA COLD WAR VETERAN

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2020 6:02 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 18:02:48 -0400

Depends on your chain of command in reality, but the book answer is that you'd lose your rocker, be counseled, receive remedial training/ mentoring at your unit based on your deficiency, and once your unit felt you were ready to return/flag lifted, you'd get another shot