What would you do if you see a soldier kneeling during reveille or retreat?

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:27:30 -0400

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Sep 27 at 2017 7:41 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:41:21 -0400

I would approach that soldier and have him/her explain, then take further action about the situation.

Response by SSG Aaron Marshall made Sep 27 at 2017 7:48 PM

SSG Aaron Marshall — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:48:21 -0400

Tell them to reference AR 600-25 Customs and Courtesies, Appendix C

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2017 9:06 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:06:09 -0400

Call 911 they must be having some sort of medical problem that needs immediate attention.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2017 1:12 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:12:44 -0400

I might ask them why they did it, and let them know that they are violating Army Regulations, can't remember the AR but I think customs and courtesies. Their rank determines my level of courtesy but it should still be said what they did was unacceptable.

Reminds me of the Sailor that used social media to show that she was sitting down during, I can't remember if it was Reveille or Retreat. She got hemmed up as I recall.

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made Sep 28 at 2017 4:21 AM

PO1 Rick Serviss — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 04:21:39 -0400

When I first read your question I thought most members are sleeping during reveille but realized you are talking about what the Navy calls colors (National Anthem and taps). I would tell them to get their ass up.

Response by SGT David T. made Sep 28 at 2017 7:49 AM

SGT David T. — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:49:28 -0400

Honestly? Nothing. It's not for me to correct a Soldier anymore. They are grown and can make their own choices and accept the consequences of that choice. Of course I might hover for a bit to see what happens when one of the military leaders come across them. Might be good for a laugh or two lol.

Response by SP5 Peter Keane made Sep 28 at 2017 2:50 PM

SP5 Peter Keane — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:50:19 -0400

Call 9 1 1

Response by AA Joseph Moody made Sep 28 at 2017 2:50 PM

AA Joseph Moody — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:50:57 -0400

I would wonder why they put that uniform on in the first place.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2017 2:51 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:51:55 -0400

In my mind: Kick them so hard in the ass that they will need a podiatrist and a gastroentarologist to remove my boot.

In reality: Have a serious conversation about the regulations and assign an appropriate corrective action.

Response by PFC Robert Rice made Sep 28 at 2017 6:44 PM

PFC Robert Rice — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:44:19 -0400

Kick the living shit out of him!

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Oct 2 at 2017 4:04 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:04:55 -0400

Well if I was still on AD, I'd make them go to attention and have him stand there until his 1SG polices him up.....my other impulse would be to grab him by the ear, and march him over to his 1SG.....either way, Top gets to have the fun re-training him.....

Response by SPC Jimmy Bowling made Oct 2 at 2017 4:20 PM

SPC Jimmy Bowling — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:20:18 -0400

They better be having a heart attack or helping someone who is having one! They will be corrected!

Response by TSgt Tommy Amparano made Oct 2 at 2017 4:25 PM

TSgt Tommy Amparano — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:25:25 -0400

Horrible hypothetical.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2017 4:27 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:27:48 -0400

Pop them in the head. Get their unit info & report them with a pic of them doing it.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2017 4:28 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:28:15 -0400

It's not a matter of patriotism, in this case. It's a matter of signing a contract, stating you'll follow published regulations. As we all know, there are very specific regulations, regarding the behavior of Service Members towards the flag, the Anthem, and when Retreat/Reveille are played.

Response by SSG Esperance Dawson made Oct 2 at 2017 4:29 PM

SSG Esperance Dawson — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:29:49 -0400

Make them part of the color guard. This way they are at attention for reveille and retreat.

Response by SPC Juanita Anderson made Oct 2 at 2017 4:42 PM

SPC Juanita Anderson — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:42:26 -0400

Must be tending to someone or something that is important. Other wise he might get boot up his ass

Response by CPT Randy Zales made Oct 2 at 2017 5:13 PM

CPT Randy Zales — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 17:13:50 -0400

ON YOUR FEET, SOLDIER!

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Oct 2 at 2017 6:15 PM

Cpl Rc Layne — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:15:54 -0400

I can't speak for any other branch, but I'm fairly sure you will only see a individual Marine do that once.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2017 6:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:20:29 -0400

Inner me: take the kid to dentac for emergency dental surgery.

Me: aye Soldier, WTF are you doing? Who's your supervisor? Oh, cool. You're now doing PT with me and then we'll go see your SL, PSG, 1SG, etc. And hopefully, you'd have a battle buddy with you to bear witness to all of it since, ya know, an NCO's doesn't mean as much as it used to when they were able to use those hands that were rate E for Everyone.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2017 6:37 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:37:58 -0400

Lmao. C’mon now ..... we all know it’s 10000% more likely that soldiers will be running inside to avoid reveille than they are to actually go outside and kneel during it lol.

Hell I almost got hit because I pulled over to salute.

Response by PO1 Donald Hammond made Oct 2 at 2017 6:38 PM

PO1 Donald Hammond — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:38:36 -0400

I would make rude comments about soldiers. After all, I was Navy. And we always make fun of soldiers. And Airmen, and marines and .... :)

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 2 at 2017 7:10 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 19:10:27 -0400

*Insert dozens of comments from keyboard warriors who want to emphasize how badass we should all think they are*

Response by SGT Greg Gold made Oct 2 at 2017 8:05 PM

SGT Greg Gold — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:05:04 -0400

My age is going to show, but is this before or after I break my foot off in their ass?

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2017 9:00 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:00:11 -0400

Even as a civilian going through Fort Riley I would stop and get out of my car to show honor and respect for retreat. I would get strange looks but it was such a habit to hear the canons go off and stop that I just did it automatically. When I see sports players and all these others kneel or raising their fists it makes me sick that they do this because the are no longer protesting a cause, they are protesting things that they have started in the first place and continue to cause further issues.

These issues are never going to go away because certain people in powerful places are wanting to cause great racial tensions and continue to divide the this country until we are at war with each one another.

They cannot want it one way but keep doing it another. So for a soldier to kneel, throw a blanket party in his honor that way he will learn right from wrong. If they continue to do it then it's time to make sure this soldier "gracefully" bows out and asks to be chaptered out.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 1:07 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 01:07:13 -0400

Four words. U. C. M. J. Not going to screw around with this in the military. Not allowed. Not even frickin considered as something that should be thought of, let alone actioned. Keep doing stupid sh!t like that and I'll keep stacking it up and throw you out so you can protest as a civilian...with an OTH discharge.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 4:53 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 04:53:04 -0400

a months worth of flag detail, and some corrective training, would also get this down on paper to start some evidence should this "soldier" try this act again and get caught by another NCO. Probably have him/her write a few 1000 word essays on Customs and Courtesies, Why the Joined the Army, and What the Flag means to them. Sounds like a good start to me.

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Oct 3 at 2017 7:43 AM

SGT Thomas Lucken — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:43:57 -0400

Rage.....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 3:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:02:31 -0400

I would tell him to get and salute as he should.

Response by TSgt Scott Hurley made Oct 3 at 2017 8:20 PM

TSgt Scott Hurley — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:20:51 -0400

What does reveille have to do with kneeling when it is the bugle call that tells you to get up and get ready for formation. If they did it for the proper bugle call "to the colors" then I would have an issue with it. Same with retreat. I would not tolerate anyone kneeling.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 11:14 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 23:14:29 -0400

This will not be occurring in my vicinity.

Period.

Response by SSG Cecil Stroud Jr. made Oct 4 at 2017 1:36 PM

SSG Cecil Stroud Jr. — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:36:19 -0400

Ask him for his ID card. Explain the regs about proper flag etiquette. Then I would take him and his ID card to his battalion CSM. I would explain to the CSM what I observed and then hand him his ID and leave.

Response by SGT Jim Arnold made Oct 4 at 2017 2:01 PM

SGT Jim Arnold — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 14:01:46 -0400

I guess stomping a mud hole in his ear would be too extreme?

Response by SPC Michael Bolarakis made Sep 7 at 2019 9:42 AM

SPC Michael Bolarakis — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:42:38 -0400

Brake his knees, no more kneeling. Problem solved. Also, get as far away from the point of contact as possible, I’m not trying to get caught. The next day show up to the briefing where they say, “We understand soldiers frustrations, though there are policies and procedures in place to address these kinds of matters. And the soldier responsible will be dealt with.” Thinking to my self “The fuck if he will, I ain’t talkin.

Response by SSG Dan Dutton made Sep 7 at 2019 3:37 PM

SSG Dan Dutton — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 15:37:26 -0400

Correct the situation immediately

Response by Cpl Earl Armstrong made Sep 7 at 2019 5:59 PM

Cpl Earl Armstrong — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 17:59:07 -0400

Reveille requires no action,morning colors does these are to separate events

Response by SPC Rob Lewis made Sep 8 at 2019 9:09 AM

SPC Rob Lewis — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 09:09:07 -0400

In this day and age, they would probably get a award.

Response by SSG Paul Wilson made Sep 9 at 2019 12:48 PM

SSG Paul Wilson — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:48:40 -0400

I would have the soldier explain to me the reason why he/she kneeled. From that I would take appropriate action.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2019 1:53 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:53:19 -0400

Train him/her with an H.

Response by LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr. made Sep 9 at 2019 2:40 PM

LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr. — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:40:49 -0400

Are colors raised during reveille in the Army? I’ve been out several decades now and was only on Army Posts a few times for reveille.

Response by 1SG Michael Foote made Sep 9 at 2019 3:42 PM

1SG Michael Foote — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:42:11 -0400

Call for an ambulance and to hve the hospital have a podiatrist standing by, because my boot will be all the way up his a$$

Response by PO2 Roger Langford made Sep 9 at 2019 3:46 PM

PO2 Roger Langford — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:46:40 -0400

You have reveille and colors confused.

Response by SSG Don Wilson made Sep 9 at 2019 4:34 PM

SSG Don Wilson — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:34:05 -0400

Give them corrective action if there isn’t a medical reason. Like cleaning grave markers with a toothbrush.

Response by SFC Pat Mattson made Sep 9 at 2019 8:40 PM

SFC Pat Mattson — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:40:50 -0400

I saw something like that, the CSM had him stand guard on a Veterans Cemetery for a couple days to show him why we have customs and courtesy’s. It’s not about now it’s about what came before.

Response by SPC Juli Reid made Sep 9 at 2019 9:00 PM

SPC Juli Reid — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:00:20 -0400

They think it’s optional whether or not to stand?