What would you have done if an IET soldier was disrespectful to you in the DFac?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 20:11:08 -0400

I’m prior service at fort Sam reclassing to 68C(lpn) and today at the defac a phase 4 IET soldier cut the line (which was full of prior service guys) to put his tray in the dirty tray area. Someone told him that he needs to go to the back of the line. So he throws his tray down and turns away and as he turns away he tells the prior service guy to STFU. So the guy didn’t hear it but I did and I was so shocked that I didn’t even say anything. Keep in mind prior service isn’t really supposed to interact with the IET soldiers and their Drills were not present. What would you have said or done?

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 8:21 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 20:21:42 -0400

tack the boot yourself

Response by Capt David Bays made May 23 at 2018 8:21 PM

Capt David Bays — Wed, 23 May 2018 20:21:58 -0400

I cannot imagine that immediate correction would not have been appropriate.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 8:58 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 20:58:53 -0400

Correction was needed but it might not have gone well for you. If no interaction is allowed, getting in a beef or worse would have been a bad foot to start off on with your new tour. If a Drill Sgt was around, letting them handle it would have been best. We were never anywhere in training without Drill Instructors around. One stayed in our Barracks at night.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 23 at 2018 9:48 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Wed, 23 May 2018 21:48:11 -0400

I would try to find out who the hell he belongs too. We can't let them act like spoiled and undisciplined kids.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made May 23 at 2018 10:39 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Wed, 23 May 2018 22:39:57 -0400

Uh... I give that kid a pat on the back because he has balls and everyone who just got basically run over by the new guy obviously didn't have the sack to confront him. Maybe next time you can be men and soldiers and stand up to the new guys... Side note: sounds like a lot of crying going on.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 10:50 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 22:50:52 -0400

You are a trainee. Your prior service status really doesn't matter unless you are empowered by the cadre. I liken it to a CSM who goes to Ranger School. In your status, you can only offer advice, if they don't listen, then move on.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2018 8:46 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 May 2018 20:46:42 -0400

Unfortunately, your hands were tied the minute you got to JBSA as a Reclass. As such, the only thing you could have done and not get fried yourself was to inform a Cadre that should have been rolling in the DFAC as well. If not, again, your hands were tied, and nothing you can do except report it to the nearest Cadre with the name and the actions of the Soldier. I feel your pain. I really do. When I went to JBSA for ALC Phase 2 and 3, this was the rule given to us: No interaction with IETs regardless if they are in the wrong.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2019 4:25 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:25:29 -0400

Remember when Soldiers hashed things out like adults? Pepridge Farms remembers....