when am I eligible for promotion back to SPC after an article 15?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:53:43 -0500

I received a field grade article 15 on April 30th 2020 punishment was reduction in rank to PFC, 45 days extra duty and suspension of 1/2 months pay for 60 days. I have 54 months TIS and 9 Months TIG I am at a different unit now than the one I got a field grade in when do I become eligible or automatically promoted back to SPC. Also the two buddies of mine who got field grades with me got their rank back a few months ago.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2021 6:55 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:55:45 -0500

When you have met the TIG requirement for SPC. Since you were reduced you are not eligible for a waiver for TIG

Response by SGT Chris Stephens made Jan 26 at 2021 7:26 PM

SGT Chris Stephens — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:26:40 -0500

If there's a flag on you, then that could be the holdup as well. That would be something, however, you need to go through your chain of command to ask about. However, don't mention that your buddies who got the Article 15 with you already got their rank back. Focus on your situation and don't try to bring up someone else's.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2021 7:34 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:34:22 -0500

Unit commander has to promote. Won't be automatic.

Response by SPC Nancy Greene made Jan 26 at 2021 7:58 PM

SPC Nancy Greene — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:58:09 -0500

When I was Promotions NCOIC, only a percentage of Soldiers in the Unit could be promoted to E2, E3, and E4. That being said, since your ‘flag’ was lifted, with the Commander’s recommendation, you should be ‘Good to Go’!
Best of luck!

Response by Wayne Soares made Jan 26 at 2021 8:31 PM

Wayne Soares — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:31:51 -0500

Thanks for the question James

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Jan 27 at 2021 5:22 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:22:29 -0500

Everyone has pretty much already covered everything. And I don't want to scare you away from RP. But...

This is one of those questions you should ALWAYS direct to your NCOs first. That is what they are there for. If you can't talk to your team leader about something like this, then there are serious problems. And if your Team Leader can't or won't get you an answer, then there are major problems with that TL, but you should still be able to take it to your Squad / Section Leader. Give your NCOs a chance to do their jobs. (And if that TL doesn't know, figuring it out helps THEM grow as a leader.)

By all means, use RP - we have an overwhelming level of combined experience. But if it is a (relatively) routine question about you, your career, or your specific job, your Chain of Command (almost) always knows best.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 27 at 2021 10:39 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:39:10 -0500

1. Your new TIG started after your sentence was served. 2. When you meet the requirements for promotion and the unit has an open slot and you are at the top of the order of merit list- You will get promoted. You will have to work very hard to live down a fled grade.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Jan 27 at 2021 11:34 PM

SSG Brian G. — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:34:07 -0500

Your Time in Grade as a PFC started the moment that you were reduced in rank. Promotion is not automatic. A commander must still initiate/sign off on the promotion. Get with your first line NCO and bring thing forth. There is a chain of command for a reason. Use it.

Response by SFC Keith Gardner made Jan 28 at 2021 11:33 AM

SFC Keith Gardner — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:33:43 -0500

Hopefully you've corrected your deficiencies from your Art 15 and reported to your new unit as a squared away Soldier. Regardless of new TIG, work your ass off and make a good impression on your NCO's. Once you've made TIS and TIG and you don't have a flag you should be good to hook. Keep in mind that the company commander will sign your promotion papers, but it's the 1SG that that sorts through the paperwork. They're also constrained by their authorized unit strength -- If they can only have 20 E4's in the unit, they can only have 20% with a waiver. So you might be waiting awhile. If you have a good senior NCO in your section. Make sure He/She sees what a hard worker you are. Let them know you want to get promoted and always have your TIG and TIS info handy. They're the ones that will go to the 1SG and talk you up to the 1SG and lobby that you get the next available slot.

If you want to stay in the Army , once you have your a Specialist again you'll need to watch out for retention control points. You can't just sit back and chill for 20 years as a Specialist. Know your TIG and TIS requirements are for promotion to E-7 and E-6 and catch up with your peers. Keep working you way up the ladder. Good Lu

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2021 12:13 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:13:54 -0500

No waivers for you. You need to hit/meet the hard time required for TIG as a PFC before your 4187 can/will be approved by the Commander. Check the regs. Can't remember the exact number but you can Google US Army APD Enlisted Promotions