When can you receive a promotion after a Summarized Article 15 ( Lower Enlisted ) ?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 01:12:25 -0400

A battle of mine received a summarized article 15 on July 16th, 2018 and was suppose to receive his automatic promotion to Specialist on July 25th, 2018. His flag was lifted on July 30th, 2018. Since August of 2018 to November 2018 our chain of command has sent up paperwork to battalion to promote that individual with a 4187 and lower enlisted promotion list. His SRB/ERB has since not shown any promotion to Specialist nor has any other documents. Our 1SG has no idea what is going on with it either and why he has not been promoted. Do you know how long you have to wait after a Summarized Article 15 to get promoted to the next lower enlisted rank or why he has not been promoted yet?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2018 5:19 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 05:19:09 -0400

Unless things have drastically changed, promotions to E-2 through E-4 are Decentralized. There is no quota or promotion list. The servicemember's unit or company commander is the promotion authority.

Typically a CO will promote to each grade up to E-4 as servicemembers meet the basic requirements for TIS and TIG if there are no flags. If a SM has received an ART 15 it is possible that CO will not sign off on the next promotion until the SM's first line NCO and/or 1SG have determined that the SM has shaped up and is deserving of new responsibility. It is less likely that there is screw up higher, if the flag was properly removed.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Nov 3 at 2018 7:06 AM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 07:06:11 -0400

They used to wait 90 days after promotion points were met for E5 and though I never really thought about it. Probably the same period for lower ranked enlisted. Retired 1993 so detailed of everyday garrison regulations those days are forgotten, if I knew them at all.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2018 8:56 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 08:56:41 -0400

There is no 'automatic promotion'. Each month the commander gets a list and circles yes or no next to the Soldiers name. Maybe that's what's going on?

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Nov 3 at 2018 12:55 PM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:55:43 -0400

There are no automatic promotions. A commander has to circle yes or no on the unit's AAA-117.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Nov 4 at 2018 12:05 AM

SSG Brian G. — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:05:42 -0400

Why did you post this again? The answers you wanted were already given.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2018 10:00 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 10:00:52 -0500

As long as the flag has been lifted and the commander endorsed the document (117 and then the 4187) the promotion should go through.