When companies/organizations offer a military discount, should retirees be treated in the same manner as active duty or as veteran?

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Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2016 5:05 PM

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It's up to the company. It's not whether they should, but whether it's nice. Private businesses have no obligation to provide discounts, nor should we expect them to. But it's considerate and appreciated.

Response by SSG Shavonde Chase made Nov 27 at 2016 5:09 PM

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I guess companies have the right to do what they want. However, I think a company who prides itself on social responsibility would treat each fairly.

Response by MAJ Richard Powell made Nov 27 at 2016 5:40 PM

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The same we gave 20+ years or were so badly hurt as to be retired, it's about respect or it is not.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Nov 27 at 2016 6:01 PM

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I would just leave it up to the company.

Response by SFC George Smith made Nov 27 at 2016 6:20 PM

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why not ???

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Nov 27 at 2016 6:45 PM

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its a buisness decision based on the owner's personal backing.. Vets,. active duty, retires or just no longer serving.. we are owed NOTHING,,but what our nation promised us.. and 10% off at bed bath and beyond was not part of that deal...so if it is offered only to Active duty only who are 99B MOS with a 00R ASI, and SQI of V..so be it...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2016 8:01 PM

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I think they should but they are obligated .

Response by Anne Strohm made Nov 27 at 2016 8:09 PM

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IMHO all military personnel risk(ed) their lives every day they serve(d). Yes, if discounts are offered, everybody should receive the same offer.

Response by PO1 Joe StMartin made Nov 27 at 2016 8:16 PM

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As a retiree, I am going to go ahead and say no. I no longer put myself in harms way, giving up family time weather I want to or not, missing birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, deployments that get extended over and over again, or any of the other things that the active duty members deal with.
That being said if a business wants to give me a discount I wont complain one bit.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Nov 27 at 2016 9:37 PM

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I think we as a group should drop the entitled attitude toward discounts. Yes I ask if there is one, who doesn't want to save a few bucks? But, I never argue the policy. To do so makes us look bad IMO.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Nov 27 at 2016 9:43 PM

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That is pretty much up to the company but in My experience I have found most places do offer the same discount to Retirees, Active Duty and Veterans of course Retirees are Veterans. its not something as a private enterprise they have to do but its appreciated when they do.

Response by MCPO Mark Durland made Nov 28 at 2016 7:36 AM

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LOVE opinion pieces like this one! Thanks for posting, Gunny.
My two cents....it's not a right or a responsibility, so therefore I have no obligation to do anything for it nor should I reasonably expect it. I thank the companies who do and don't hold it against companies who don't.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Nov 28 at 2016 8:25 AM

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I would say yes, but you gave a terrible example for your question. The offer you gave is primarily for Active Duty families. In your specific example, retirees AND veterans are being treated exactly the same... eligible within 1 year of discharge.

But yes, personally I think whether you are a veteran or retiree, you should be treated in the same manner.

Response by 1SG Al Brown made Nov 28 at 2016 9:42 AM

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I'll take what is offered. I used to turn the discounts down, but my ribs became constantly bruised from my wife elbowing me in the checkout line.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Nov 28 at 2016 11:08 AM

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I don't expect it nor is the company under obligation to provide a military discount. IF it's offered, I'll gladly and humbly accept and be appreciative of the gesture.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2016 12:00 PM

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The companies don't need to give anyone a discount, so it's solely up to them

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2016 1:29 PM

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The purpose of a discount like this is to encourage customer loyalty because they agree with the sentiment being expressed (honoring military service). They don't owe me anything, and I'm not going to hold anything against them for offering discounts to those currently serving or who have recently served. I remember how tight money was when I was serving, anything to help a soldier out is a good thing.

Response by SSG Todd Johnson made Nov 29 at 2016 5:54 AM

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They should be treated as Active Duty. They devoted a major portion of their life to their service and it should be recognized.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 7:23 AM

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GySgt John O'Donnell In the first place, if such an offer is a means of a company saying, "Thank you", to veterans, active, and reserve service members, why would the person being thanked have a say in just who is thanked and by how much? Explain to me, please, just how you being one of those above, and I being another, you have the right to say to the company, "You have thanked me too much, or too little, and it should be changed to the amount you think?"

I am not questioning that each of us who have served have done more or less for our country. Some lost their lives. Some lost limbs. Some engaged in close combat. Some just got shot at, but never hit. (That's me.) Some never heard a bullet whizz by. Some never saw a combat zone. Some never even left the US. Some were reserve.

The one thing I think we DO NOT NEED is a chart for each of us to wear saying just how much we gave, and with suggestions to those who want to thank us as to what is appropriate according to the chart.

Response by MGySgt Philip Cashion made Nov 29 at 2016 7:33 AM

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I retired in 2005 and have appreciated any offer that a company makes to recognize the sacrifices of our military. I prefer to do business with companies that offer military discounts because I appreciate what they're doing. That being said I think the decision about how to offer the discount is completely up to the company. I want companies that offer a discount to succeed because at least they do something for our military. I don't want to hurt those companies and honestly it really boils down to what the company offering the discount is trying to accomplish. Obviously they are driven by profit, and if there is an opportunity to help a military member and be profitable, that's a good thing for everyone, plus its good for the economy.

As I look at the example you posted it was clear to me they were attempting to target a very specific demographic (18-50 year olds). That makes good business sense to me because they're building customer loyalty that way. It's better than the alternative of nothing for anyone. I understand your question of comparing 4 years of service (for the average veteran) to the 20+ years of a retiree but I don't think it's a negative that they place the stipulation on their offer, it's simply a business decision. I think it wouldn't have even been a question if they listed the criteria as currently serving, or veteran. There was no need to add the bullet about retirees.

As a retiree with a steady income and a retirement check, I don't need the discount as badly as a young active duty E-4 with a wife and 2 kids does, or a young E-5 that just got out and is trying to get their start in 1st CivDiv.

Response by Cpl Dr Ronnie Manns made Nov 29 at 2016 7:55 AM

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Yes, I think a "military" discount is just that, a discount for any military service regardless of when.

Response by SPC Matthew Birkinbine made Nov 29 at 2016 8:25 AM

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Retirees should be treated the same way as active service members, and even better than your run of the mill veteran.

Response by SGT Larry Holland made Nov 29 at 2016 8:28 AM

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Without a doubt, yes!

Response by SP5 Jim Hatch made Nov 29 at 2016 8:28 AM

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As a retired disabled vet, I appreciate it, but don't think it is the only reason I go there. If one thinks they still don't make a profit because of it, think again, just not as much. You will see it is a completive thing also {Home depot vs Lowes) also a cheep ad ploy. They also send me 10% off coupons all the time, just can't use both at the same time.

Response by SFC John Mikelson made Nov 29 at 2016 9:01 AM

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After serving 26 years how would my retiree status differ from Veteran status? If an active duty or RC member has not yet deployed should they qualify? Businesses choose to support anyone who served and that's nice not required. Shop at the placed that like us and pass up.the placed that don't

Response by CH (LTC) Robert Leroe made Nov 29 at 2016 9:08 AM

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Considering that we've served at least 20 years, it makes sense. I pointed this out to someone and they saw the logic and agreed!

Response by GySgt Thomas Reichard made Nov 29 at 2016 9:20 AM

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Guns, the simple answer there is how they choose to set it up. Thank goodness some have offers at all. Of course first and foremost, I'd hope all would offer discounts and specials to those on Active Duty. It's great when they offer to all Veterans regardless of status.

Funny, one place I deal with DOES NOT offer a discount to Veterans BUT because of the I.D. card will to Retirees.

I always ask. It makes a difference in where I shop. For instance, Home Depot, thought they do a lot of really good things does not offer the discount at all times. Lowe's, on the other hand, offers it every day. And as a bonus, if they have items on sale the discount is applied to the sale price too.

Bottom line, they make business decisions that they think will benefit them the most.

Response by SFC Michael Peterson made Nov 29 at 2016 9:26 AM

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Many places that offer a military discount extend that discount to retired service members also. I know that O'Rielly Auto Parts, Autozone, Home Depot, and Lowe's do. I don't usually ask for it but, sometimes they see my ID when I open my wallet to pay. They don't have to but, it's nice to know those companies appreciate you. Also, the last time I went to a movie, the young lady at the ticket counter saw my ID and gave me a discount as well. I don't expect it but, it makes me feel good whether it saves me $0.10 or $10.00.

Response by SPC Anslem Ifill made Nov 29 at 2016 9:51 AM

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Is there offering a discount to military personnel that should be extended to all military personnel active reserve and retirees alike

Response by PO1 Jack Heritage made Nov 29 at 2016 9:53 AM

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I don't expect a discount, nor do I think that I am owed one for my service, but I ask if one is offered and take advantage if it is. It is the company's prerogative, and I don't hold it against any company that doesn't, although I do tend to frequently use those that I know do offer them. That being said, I think Retirees should be extended the same discount as AD. We are still card carrying members of the organization (abeit older and loosely attached... LoL

Response by COL John Hudson made Nov 29 at 2016 9:54 AM

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I suppose in one sense no one 'owes' me anything. I've done my part (three wars) and retired. I will say it's wonderfully surprising when a retailer offers me a discount, and that's quite an incentive to return to their business in future. As far as discounts applied to duty status (ie: active vs retired) - my feelings on the matter are there should be no discrimination on that point. Simply because I'm 'retired' doesn't mean I'm "less" than any other military individual as a customer. My $$ is the same and spends well no matter where I go. Discriminating by military status opens a can of career worms that will be argued until the end of time and creates division where none was intended.

Response by LTC Mark Beattie made Nov 29 at 2016 9:57 AM

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This question reminds me of the question asked on RP about the use of the VA hospital by someone who may not have served in combat, but served honorably. I really find both questions disturbing, like after serving for years, maybe decades, the day one retires their service to the nation is then somehow less significant. I've yet to come across any organization or company that limits its discount to only active duty members, though maybe some are out there. I suppose this is a valid question, but personally, it offends me that drawing a distinction would even be considered.

Response by COL David Turk made Nov 29 at 2016 10:05 AM

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Retirees usually are veterans.

Response by 1stSgt Troy Seals made Nov 29 at 2016 10:13 AM

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26 years, hell yes!!

Response by Capt Peter Colby made Nov 29 at 2016 10:16 AM

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I agree with the postings provided prior to mine. Although I deployed in support of Desert Shield/Storm and retired in 1996, what these young people have done over the past decade - with respect to numerous combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan - were much more demanding. My belief, "Our nation asked too much, of too few, for too long." As a result, it is my belief that our national leadership has "broken" an entire generation. Further, every US citizen should hang their head in shame due to the complete and utter (continued) failure of our Veteran's Administration. I would appreciate any financially secure private/public company recognizing - in anyway possible - those patriotic Americans that have sacrificed so much for this country over the past decade. I believe that any retiree or veteran that separated from our Armed Forces prior to 2005 would agree with my post.

Response by CPO Bradford Largent made Nov 29 at 2016 10:20 AM

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It is totally up to the company. I myself will frequent a Military Friendly business over one who is not. No, not one who give ME a discount for being retired, a military friendly. So I would frequent the above business even though I wouldn't be eligible for the discount.

Response by CPO Roger Gresens made Nov 29 at 2016 10:25 AM

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Gunny if you are retired from the military you are a veteran also. If the company offers a discount yes you are entitled to it also. I get all the discounts I can and all you can do is ask if the offer one. Have found places that offer discounts and they are not advertised.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 10:30 AM

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Being retired, I would say it is of course up to the company. However, having given more than 20 years in dedicated service, it is nice to be appreciated. Up to the individual I guess.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 10:39 AM

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I always feel weird asking for a discount but it does help in some cases

Response by LCpl Frankie Rush made Nov 29 at 2016 10:40 AM

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Everyone is missing the whole question. It is not asking about the military discount. It is asking should retirees be treated the same. Answer to that is YES they should. They are one that signed the contract more than once.

Response by SFC John Fourquet made Nov 29 at 2016 10:55 AM

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Military discounts are a benefit offered by the company. They have the right to determine who will be entitled to it.

Response by Capt Peter Colby made Nov 29 at 2016 10:55 AM

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My thought, if a company offering a discount to both former and current members of our Armed Forces, and if excluding me would result in a larger discount being offered to those currently serving, take mine and give it to those that continue to sacrifice so very much.

Response by Maj Andrew Appleton made Nov 29 at 2016 10:56 AM

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Great question. And I need feedback on this exact question. In 2005 I started an online travel site for active duty military, which offered unpublished mil fares for flights. I have always struggled with not being able to offer the Veteran the same discount, the problem is the airlines won't honor the ticket, even if I were to sell to a veteran.

The discounts can be significant, but out of my control as to eligibility.

Feedback.
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Response by PFC Carmen A Garcia made Nov 29 at 2016 11:11 AM

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Yes I do believe Retirees should get same benefits as an active duty member. They have given their all for country, made sacrifices and so deserve what they are given. If a company is gracious to offer a discount then I believe our service members can rightfully claim it.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 11:25 AM

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It's great for the Company to show their support. I retract my previous comments on this issue. My deepest apologies to anyone that I had offended. It is not my way of a Warrior to complain, whine, and make excuses.
SF,
Gunner Kaupe

Response by SGT Allison Churchill made Nov 29 at 2016 11:33 AM

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In my experience, most of these types of discounts are for those with a military ID, which retirees, but most regular, honorably separated, veterans don't have.

I do have the "Veteran" designation on my driver's license, just in case I happen to be somewhere with a veterans' discount.

Response by Capt Peter Colby made Nov 29 at 2016 11:39 AM

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Reading a number of postings - and with all due respect - I struggle with comments that include the word "entitled."

Response by CDR Russell Harris made Nov 29 at 2016 11:45 AM

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I didn't serve because of any "special" favors I could get once retired. Yes, I entered a contract with America for certain compensations --- should I make it to 20 years or more. Let's be honest, military service is unique and can exact a toll not many are willing to experience! But having said that, I was not forced to stay, it was a deliberate choice that I would do over and over again! I retired after 34+ years of the best, worst, happiest, most miserable combined Army and Coast Guard time of my life! I went from an E-1 to an 0-5 over that period and felt like I was amply compensated. I don't expect any special considerations from companies or people because of my chosen service, however, I do appreciate a hand shake and the occasional thank-you! Maybe it's me, but I feel a bit uncomfortable when singled out for serving with the ubiquitous "Thanks for your Service" at every VA visit or musical performance I attend. I feel like I should be standing up and saying to America, "Thank you for the opportunity I had to serve & defend the liberty & ideal of this greatest of all countries"?

Response by TSgt Denise Moody made Nov 29 at 2016 1:04 PM

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Yes. It's a businesses choice to offer a discount or not. My choice to do business with them is not dependent on that. But if they do offer a discount then retirees should be on that list. If not retirees, then not vets either. Also on that list should be Guard and Reserves. Again, I'm not going to not shop at a store if they don't offer a discount. But if they do I will take it.

Response by SPC Jamie Smith made Nov 29 at 2016 1:40 PM

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I'm a little prejudiced (maybe a lot) since I am a retired vet. I do know that stores, restaurants, etc. That offer military discounts certainly get my business. I will shop at Lowe's, for instance,(10%discount) even if I find lower price elsewhere. I think it benefits the businesses as well as the vet.

Response by SCPO Raymond Kenney made Nov 29 at 2016 1:52 PM

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I'm a military retiree (Navy) and I don't have any problems with any of the stores offering a military discount on items. If they don't offer it I always ask just in case they do and it doesn't hurt to ask. I think retirees and veterans should be treated the same as active duty. I'll never argue the policy if they do or not.

Response by PO1 Ernest Roy made Nov 29 at 2016 2:31 PM

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Retirees and Veterans have done their time same as currently Active Duity. I see no difference between these classifications.

Response by Sgt John Koliha made Nov 29 at 2016 2:31 PM

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'Tis always been MY experience that when I inform them of my retired status, they thank me for my service and happily extend the discount. ALWAYS.

Response by SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson made Nov 29 at 2016 2:35 PM

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Would tell WO's with their "sham dots" (what they called them) that they were upside down. Did it to a three in front of another three and he could barely keep a straight face. Hard to imagine a WO3 that hadn't had that pulled on them :'D

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Nov 29 at 2016 2:38 PM

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For a company to give a discount to any group, they are forgoing a part of their profit out of kindness and a desire to draw that groups business. there are some stores in my area only give discount to members in uniform. that is their call and their profits. If the price is to high with or without discounts you should tell the management (nicely) and shop elsewhere. we are not entitled to any discount

Response by SSG Arthur Williams made Nov 29 at 2016 2:55 PM

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As a retiree

Response by MAJ Raymond Brooks made Nov 29 at 2016 3:44 PM

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The MSG is correct. They are private businesses. As a retiree, I appreciate discounts, and I always try to thank the folks behind the counter when I get one.

Response by LTC Patrick Turner made Nov 29 at 2016 3:53 PM

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I've noticed most companies are different. Some just offer serious discounts to actives only, i.e. Airlines. Some spread the wealth even to retirees and further to veterans. As a retiree, obviously I have a dog in this fight and I would say that retirees SHOULD by virtue of their 20+ year service plus the fact they may not make as much money as well. In answer to your question, I would HOPE they would be treated at least as better as a veteran because that's what they are.

Response by PO1 Ryan Cassidy made Nov 29 at 2016 4:31 PM

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I absolutely believe retirees should be treated the same as active duty for discounts. Retirees typically serve 20 plus years of service on active duty. Where as a "veteran" only has to have a general discharge or better to claim veteran status. I know a veteran that was medically discharged after one year of service and never deployed. However, they get to claim the same status. Also, when applying to jobs, retirees should get their own category separate from a "veteran". Just my initial thoughts.

Response by SGT Jody Beach made Nov 29 at 2016 4:40 PM

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YES!!! Just because one person stays longer then another does not mean a different Oath was taken. We all signed the same line. We all were willing to die for this great country,.,,,,,,,

Response by CPO Bill Penrod made Nov 29 at 2016 5:15 PM

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Geez, Retirees are VERTERANS.................!!

Response by COL John Hudson made Nov 29 at 2016 5:58 PM

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FROM THE IG DESK: I gave my thoughts on this earlier, but will now offer a different perspective to address some of the commentary below. If ANY of you out there feel you have been denied some service benefit (medical or otherwise)...be aware there is an Inspector General avenue that is open to you. Contact any IG anywhere close to you (Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine, Coast Guard). You'll be asked to fill out a form outlining your concern. HEADS UP: Insure you are DISPASSIONATE in your response, noting CLEARLY what your issue is and lay it out in chronological order (we're not concerned about format or spelling; tell it like it is). Add any and all necessary DETAIL. Veterans or those no longer in the service can contact the Veterans Affairs IG and proceed from there. At the end, be CLEAR in what your 'result expectation' is. Folks, be aware that not all issues are "IG" issues. When that occurred in our office, we took the necessary steps to find out the best responder and advised the service person how best to proceed, but I can't guarantee you'll receive that level of service in any other office.

FINAL THOUGHT: Any individual who served honorably in any service has access to their local VA Hospital. Nothing more than the act of registering there will cause one to receive a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs ID Card complete with color picture and other identifying information. I have one as well as my Army Retirement ID Card. Perhaps retailers may accept the VA ID Card as proof of service for discounts. Any thoughts out there about this?

Response by MAJ Eric G Troup made Nov 29 at 2016 8:12 PM

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Would never expect a discount but do accept when offered.

Response by SMSgt Timothy Cathers made Nov 29 at 2016 8:38 PM

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No. Should be up to the company.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Nov 29 at 2016 9:04 PM

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Retirees are veterans plus a few benefits folks who didn't do their full 20 don't get.

Response by PVT Moirraine Campbell made Nov 29 at 2016 9:20 PM

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Of course they should.

Will they?

No, not yet.

Response by Pvt Nicholas Hernandez made Nov 29 at 2016 11:33 PM

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Anyone, who has served honorably, should qualify.

Response by COL John Carter made Nov 30 at 2016 4:59 AM

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I can honestly say that I have not even asked for one the only time I have gotten it is when I was in uniform

Response by 1SG Tony Gemme made Nov 30 at 2016 6:09 AM

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I believe that if a soldier put his life on the line for this country and all of us, that all should get the same bennifits ! I gave 20 years of my life to the military and this country, it is only Right that retired military get the same bennifits.

Response by SPC Dave Weaver made Nov 30 at 2016 6:33 AM

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all should be treated in the same way.all have served.active military will some day be veterans.for some vets ,the war didn,t end when they came back to the world.

Response by SPC Kelly Grindstaff made Nov 30 at 2016 8:51 AM

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When they make qualifications like they did in this add its not really a discount for "Most" veterans or even Retiree's Look at the qualifications. This is pure marketing. They are doing this to get veterans in to sell you something but they won't give it to you because its been more than a year since you served. Think about this

Response by SGT Justin H. made Nov 30 at 2016 10:09 AM

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As a Veteran in Colorado, I have found that many establishments offer a military discount if you have some form of ID, i.e. active duty, retired, veteran. A lot of places will give a free drink if they don't offer a discount too.

I am a returning customer to these establishments and they know it. It's a good position for a business to be friendly to military and vets as they generally will make more in the long run versus losing any costs for offering discounts. There's quite a few of us here in CO.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Nov 30 at 2016 11:16 AM

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First off, I agree with the majority that nobody owes me anything other than what I have earned. Secondly, if a business wants to extend a courtesy to the military community it is their choice of how, where , when , why and who. I have run into one instance where a business owner wasn't fully aware of the differences between Active, Reserve, NG, Veterans, and Retirees. Not his fault, just didn't know.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Nov 30 at 2016 11:43 AM

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It's up to the individual company since it's there product. It's nice getting the discount and I may ask the question like AT&T offers a discount for Active Duty only and that is there right.

Response by SMSgt John Clifford made Nov 30 at 2016 11:51 AM

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Come on Gunny, you know that military retirees are still members of the military. We are in the retired reserves and do not receive "retired" pay but reduced pay for reduced service. We are also accorded all the rights and privileges of our rank.

Response by SSgt Michiele Ward made Nov 30 at 2016 12:43 PM

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Retired military are vets! If you do 1 tour or 20 years, you're a veteran!

Response by SFC John Hill made Nov 30 at 2016 2:37 PM

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It is the business's discretion on whether or not to offer a military discount and whom it applies to. They can state which it applies to i.e., Active Duty, Reserve, Retired, etc.

Response by PO1 Robert Johnson made Nov 30 at 2016 4:28 PM

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I some times have a problem as on Veteran's Day, large numbers of restaurants offer drastically reduced or free meals to veterans and it seems like there are entirely too many folks in these lines and most have no proof that they were ever in the service and the local owners don't want to "Insult their guests" by asking for ID or a DD214. One of the owners of our local Golden Coral told me that she knew that there were abusers in the line but that she would rather not make a fuss and have the media get involved. I look at it the same as I do cases of Stolen Valor.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Nov 30 at 2016 7:01 PM

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I've been to businesses that have given me discounts or a coupon to be used in my next visit at any participating franchise or company owned store. (Had a better chance at company owned store). They hadn't pressed how long I been out.. I've had other sales guests
Press me more than employees have, so I usually time my exit for when nobody is behind me at check-out, it doesn't slways work out that way... had a person leaving from the next check-out
question me about when I exited the AF, I told them back in '85... and I asked them why did they care... he was trying to recruit me for a Veteran Svc org. I told Him I belonged to two of them and it was enough for me.. I thought he was seeing if I shouldn't be getting a discount.. I try to be courteous to even the doubters.. I may have to deal with them at another time and place and don't want to leave a bad impression on their mind..

Response by CPO Cheryl Oldendick McDaniel made Nov 30 at 2016 7:17 PM

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I find as a retired member, most places offering discounts honor my retiree ID card and I receive the discount. I always express my appreciation for the discount so they don't presume that I feel we are entitled to a discount.

Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Nov 30 at 2016 9:02 PM

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Definitely. I consider it an honor to use my status as a veteran/retiree for discounts.

Response by MAJ Richard Cheek made Nov 30 at 2016 9:20 PM

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I appreciate it considering when I came back from my 1st combat experience in 1972 everybody spit on me and called me names. Veteran of Panama and gulf war too it was nice that at least we were respected. Took until this war or terror to get something back alli say if offered is thanks.

Response by TSgt Mario Guajardo made Nov 30 at 2016 11:09 PM

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That's the prerogative of those offering discounts

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2016 1:16 AM

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They should be treated as active duty. They did their full time and earned every cent of that discount.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Dec 1 at 2016 1:43 AM

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Sp4 Byron Skinner…All these "Discounts" are, are marketing gimmicks, There purpose is to get into your wallet. Its best to ignore any place that promotes a military discount is more then likely out to screw a member of the military. As a group service personal are rathe unknowing about money and are suckers. When you see a place promoting special deals to the military run, away.

Response by SPC Geoffrey Jenkins made Dec 1 at 2016 12:05 PM

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I believe all who raised their right hand and completed boot camp and served over three to four years and beyond deserve the discounts.Listen ladies and gentlemen we are 1% of the population who volunteered for dedicate service for our country and the millions who done it before us.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2016 12:49 PM

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I think the Golden Rule should apply to all dealings with others, whether personal, business or otherwise. Sounds corny but it sure simplifies things. No need for lengthy contracts, footnotes, appendixes, spreadsheets, power point presentations. Don't treat anyone in any manner that you wouldn't want to be treated as and that leaves little room for dishonesty, fraud, disrespect or similar. That's assuming one doesn't enjoy being treated badly, which is outside the norm of what we expect from rational people. If we are dealing with good and honest people all that should be needed is a handshake to seal the deal. It was a nice dream and then I woke up to the real world. To the question directly, no special favors or deals are expected or required. Unless we were drafted we all joined willingly so it's not reasonable to expect any special treatment. It's always welcomed though, and if somebody offers it I'll gladly take then up on it unless it cuts somebody else short. That's a whole new deal.

Response by CW4 Richard A. Dropik made Dec 1 at 2016 1:08 PM

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Military discounts should most certainly go to retired military .For the most part, myself included, 20 plus years were devoted to Military service, and with an Honorable discharge upon retirement. What better requirements could there be ?

Response by MSG Don Burt made Dec 1 at 2016 6:17 PM

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Being a retiree and given or seeking a Military Discount for whatever, I always act and talk to the business as a Veteran and typically the conversation gets into my Military background, so I never expect to be considered on active duty. To me if you are retired then the discount should be given no matter how long you've been retired, but that's me and the business can set up their own rules.

Response by 1stSgt Matthew Olivolo made Dec 1 at 2016 7:03 PM

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I'd say yes. We lived through all the same things these younger men and women have.

Response by SrA Michael Magnuson made Dec 3 at 2016 9:14 PM

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I appreciate companies that respect our service.
I would like to see very special attention and benefits given to combat veterans.God Bless you all!

Response by Cpl Carlos Fernandez made Dec 8 at 2016 1:55 PM

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Yes they should.

Response by Cpl Joshua Caldwell made Dec 9 at 2016 5:19 PM

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They should offer us old fellas discounts for their own purposes. It is GREAT marketing to offer veterans of any status a discount. It not only sends a message of appreciation but it also sends a message to every patriotic American that the company is pro-American, and that attitude tends to attract customers.

Response by SGT James Colwell made Dec 13 at 2016 11:02 AM

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Organizations are not required to offer military discounts, so it seems reasonable for them to be able to put qualifications on those discounts. In the example provided, it is pretty obvious that old vets and retirees are not the focal point of the military discounts. I don't qualify and I am not horribly offended. The short answer is that a retiree IS a veteran and there should be no distinction between a retiree and an honorably discharged veteran. Active duty does not necessarily mean you have more rights to discounts, although I understand why they do, given the current situation. If we had no active duty in harms way, they should be treated the same as veterans and retirees.

Response by TSgt Rudy Adame made Dec 14 at 2016 5:08 PM

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Yes sir , some us did complete our duties.

Response by PO1 John Watson made Dec 27 at 2016 7:09 AM

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Retirees have the same benefits as active duty personnel so should be treated by the public as same. We are not just veterans but are retired from active duty and still connected to our service.

Response by PO3 William Farinas made Dec 27 at 2016 10:19 AM

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Yes most definitely !!! They have put in their time and made there scarfice for this Country and paved the way for the next generation of service members. Never forget the ones who came before you!

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Dec 28 at 2016 10:16 AM

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Buy a car or truck and the dealership through the manufacturer is likely to have some form of monetary advantage for military regardless of status. Being a USAA member I got $1000 off when I bought a SUV for my wife through the locak BMW dealer.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Dec 28 at 2016 10:27 AM

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I never expect nor demand a discount. However, if they want to offer me one, I'll take it.

Response by PO1 Kevin Arnold made Dec 28 at 2016 11:37 AM

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According to this advertisement in this thread I would not be eligible for this rebate. If a business is going to offer a military discount it should be for every veteran whether it be active, inactive, or retired. The very definition of a veteran is a person that has served honorably for their country. If a company offers a military discount I do use it and why not I earned it just like if I was still active. I served my time with both honor and distinction. I don't go out of my way asking if they have a military discount but if advertised or offered I would use it, because I earned that discount.

Response by Pat McCracken made Dec 28 at 2016 12:02 PM

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Yes! They sacrificed their lives for our freedoms and should be treated as any active duty soldier.

Response by MAJ Judd Clemens made Dec 28 at 2016 12:33 PM

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I've found only one company here in Alaska that gives a military discount to those on active duty but not to retirees. I always ask, and take advantage of a discount, whether I am saving dollars at Lowes or cents at McDonalds.

Response by Maj Jim Fussell made Dec 29 at 2016 6:41 AM

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In my experience, retirees are given the same discounts as active duty. I can't speak for all companies or vets, but if there is a discount at all it usually applies equally.

Response by CH (LTC) Robert Leroe made Dec 29 at 2016 1:35 PM

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I'm glad that many businesses give a military discount to all veterans, but as others have mentioned, serving 20+ years is pretty significant, and we ought to be included. On a similar note, when I visited Mount Vernon while on active duty I asked if there was a military discount. The clerk looked shocked and said, "No, and there ought to be!"

Response by SMSgt Sheila Berg made Dec 29 at 2016 9:54 PM

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Yes we all served. Retirees put in at least 20 years! That should stand for something.

Response by SFC Dante Alanis made Dec 30 at 2016 12:02 AM

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Since all Retirees are Veterans, the answer is yes.

Response by SGT Chester Beedle made Dec 30 at 2016 2:07 AM

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If there's a discount then great. They don't have to do it.
I've also noticed that at most places anywhere near military posts/bases the discount just brings it to about what the price should be anyway.
If someplace has a sign or something about having a military discount I'll sometimes ask if it applies to retirees. If so, great! If not, oh well.
I will admit that one reason I miss having my AKO account since the military only allows access to it with a CAC instead of password, is not having a .mil email address to register with online vendors.

I've seen people get pissy over the fact that some discounts only applied to current or retired. They get pissed because it didn't apply to veterans. Or even medically discharged. "Oh, my service wasn't good enough... it was good enough when I was getting shot at... blah blah blah." I so just want to tell some of these entitled twits to STFU.

Response by MAJ Seth Goldstein made Dec 30 at 2016 11:27 AM

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In my experience if you show you VA card that's good enough. Most of the people that work for the companies have no idea what active duty only means or what ID to even ask for.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Dec 30 at 2016 2:05 PM

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Yes. Why should companies regard my service of 20 or more years, as being less important or worthy, than the service of someone who has been in uniform less than a year?

Response by SP5 Steve Powell made Jan 4 at 2017 1:36 AM

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I'm grateful for any discount a business wants to extend to me. I do find it a little annoying that Company X offers veterans discounts but only if you have a "service connected" disability. I suppose they think the disabled are more needy or deserving, I don't know. Sometimes I see signs posted "Military Discounts". I sometimes ask if it means active duty, retired or ?? Some companies like Home Depot and Lowe's give all service members active or retired a discount on Veterans Day or July 4th but the rest of the year I think it's only Vets with a VA card with "Service Connected" on it. I believe that is correct but not totally sure. Personally, yes, if there's a "military discount" I think it should be extended to all who serve, active and retired. :)

Response by SFC Terry Strauss made Jan 5 at 2017 12:40 PM

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First and foremost, companies are offering the discounts, service members who don't want don't have to participate. As a retiree, if I know a company offers a military discount I will use the discount. Keep in mind that less than one percent of citizens volunteer to serve their country in a military uniform.

Response by Pat McCracken made Jan 8 at 2017 10:17 PM

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I think military discounts should be available for veterans and retired military, too. They have paid their dues, and should be treated as such.

Response by MSgt Jimmy Mullins made Jan 10 at 2017 8:18 AM

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If they offer, retirees yes. We were there before you young man.

Response by SP5 Tom Carlson made Jan 19 at 2017 5:59 AM

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you would think so,, but I reserve the rights of the proprietor.

Response by GySgt Melissa Gravila made Jan 19 at 2017 7:00 AM

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It is up to the company to offer the discount. But it is up to me, as a consumer, as to whether I decide to shop there or not. I know a lot of times when my husband and I are deciding g on where to go out to eat for example, we lean towards the veteran friendly restaurant-we feel if they will go out of their way to honor vets/servicemembers, they deserve our business. Just like if we find out a business is owned by a vet, we will shop there. We feel it's the right thing to do.
Semper Fi

Response by Cpl Franz Buhlmann made Jan 19 at 2017 3:53 PM

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It speaks volumes of this nation that we expect to tip those that serve tables, but we not not expect to tip those that serve us by risking their lives to ensure our freedom!

Too bad it does not speak very highly of us as a people!

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2017 11:07 PM

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Gunny, please define the term Veteran. Would I be correct if I added (military) in front of retirees? I have always understood the term veteran was given to those who have been honorably discharged and those who were retired either due to serving twenty years or more or medically retired regardless of the length of service. Those still on active duty are not referred to as veterans. They can, of course, be a veteran of a war or action. National Guard members are not considered as veterans ever because of their attachments to their resident state. However, there is a movement to possibly change this.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2017 1:23 PM

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I definitely think they should be treated the same. That being said, most of these people asking for an accompanying ID don't know the difference between a CAC, Dependent, or Retiree ID. I was at a store with my dad not too long ago and tested this with his contractor CaC (obviously I was ready to show mine) and sure enough his card got the discount.

Response by SSG Sandra Sutherland made Jan 24 at 2017 11:10 AM

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I believe that military discounts should include all active, reserve, retired, and veterans. No many businesses offer military discounts, but ever service member, whether retired or active duty, as long as they carry any form of identification that can prove their affiliation with any branch of the military should be included.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Jan 24 at 2017 8:15 PM

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Yes. Unfortunately, it does not happen, because many managers of facilities that do offer military discounts, do not know the difference between a retiree and a veteran.

Response by CPT William Fahey made Feb 1 at 2017 11:47 AM

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It's up to the business to do or not do. If they do, I make sure I tell them how much I appreciate it. If they don't, all I expect is that they are courteous when they tell me. I feel no sense of being entitled to any discount because I served.

Response by SSG Wally Lawver made Feb 1 at 2017 12:00 PM

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if its available I take it, if not oh well. I appreciate it when people give rebates/discounts etc etc,,,,,but whining when you dont get one is a bit much...

Response by LTC Alan Sconiers made Feb 8 at 2017 7:07 PM

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yes

Response by LCDR Dave Spurlock made Feb 9 at 2017 12:13 PM

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I have a good friend who runs a big box store and he explained to me that, generically speaking, the "military discount" typically offsets the tax on purchases and his belief is that Service Members (Mil, Fire F's and LEOs) have paid forward taxes to the gov't by their service.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2017 6:59 AM

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If they're going to give a military discount at all (and that's up to the company) then OF COURSE retirees should be included. Why is this even in question?

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Feb 14 at 2017 10:58 AM

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Yes

Response by PVT Brian Gnad made Feb 14 at 2017 12:02 PM

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In what way is a retiree different from a veteran?
Or better, let me ask, in what way is a retiree less than a veteran?
I'm thinking I am misunderstanding something,

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2017 9:35 AM

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There is no difference between a retiree and someone serving. They did their time and are deserving as well. I agree with everyone. I may ask but if not oh well. It's a privilege not a given. Enjoy it but we as a veteran community need to stop acting entitled and just be appreciative.

Response by SSgt Walter Lonsdale made Feb 23 at 2017 10:48 AM

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I think most aren't reading the question. The question assumes that we have already established there is a discount but should retirees and veterans get the same discount as active duty.

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Feb 23 at 2017 1:01 PM

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It would be a good idea. Personally I don't care because I am well off but for the one on the low side, it would help !

Response by CW2 Fred Baker made Feb 28 at 2017 11:08 AM

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It is not for us to say. It is certainly nice to see that they do. I even went to a local steak house that not only had a discount, but also marked parking for Purple Heart recipients. It is a gift, enjoy it. God knows the nation wasn't always so cordial to our troops.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 11 at 2017 3:13 PM

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It isn't an entitlement, it is up to the vendor. If they don't offer it I am not going to ask. I certainly will not stand in line for a freebie

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 12 at 2017 6:17 PM

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It's a scam so hurry up and get one

Response by SGT Patrick Reno made Aug 28 at 2017 10:12 AM

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Home Depot offers a 10% discount to veterans. But they will only take active duty ID, or a VA ID card. So if your are not active. and don't collect VA bennifits to have a card your shit out of luck to get your discount.

Response by LTC Hillary Luton made Sep 22 at 2017 1:19 PM

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I always appreciate a company that offers a discount to military, but I certainly don't expect it. I live near Ft. Bragg, so it is common place that most companies who offer discounts will ask pretty much everyone if they are military. That don't care if you serving now, or are prior service. If you can show an ID card, you get the discount. Their mindset is that, if you have served at any time, you have earned the discount.

Response by Shelbie Greer made Sep 22 at 2017 2:35 PM

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Retirees should absolutely be treated in the same manner!

Response by SFC William Linnell made Feb 21 at 2022 10:04 AM

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Hey Gunny. So you consider yourself a non-veteran? How many years did you do? A retiree is a veteran Gunny. A retiree did their time in the suck for 20 years or more while on active duty. I did over 27 years active Army with 3 tours of combat. So by your logic I'm not a veteran??
My brain hurts trying to wrap it around your mode of thinking. I digress.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Feb 21 at 2022 10:33 PM

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Of course retired or honorable discharged vets should get the discount. They served and deserve it, although some buisnesses will only give their discount to uniformed service people and that's OK too. It's their perogative to do what they want with their money. I can't see why retired vets should be left out. Active duty vets will be retired some day too.

Response by SMSgt Anil Heendeniya made Feb 22 at 2022 7:16 AM

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We're subject to recall to active duty until we reach the age of 60, so I'd agree it would be great to be given a certain level of respect and consideration. The above image shows a company that lacks any knowledge of the value retirees have to this nation--and one which I'd avoid doing any business with. Home Depot and Lowe's are great with military discounts. Lowe's goes a bit further, and once you've confirmed your status with your ID card, they get your phone number in their system, and that's all they need from then on. But I'm fine showing my ID at any time.

Response by LTC Hillary Luton made Feb 23 at 2022 8:45 PM

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I am a little confused by the wording of this question. Last I checked, retirees are veterans.