When is the "correct" time to use the less formal Sarge? Chief?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 20:18:50 -0400

I'm just wondering but I've been told that you can call them this but when is the correct time?

Response by SPC Joseph Wojcik made Jun 1 at 2018 8:32 PM

SPC Joseph Wojcik — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 20:32:41 -0400

It's probably best to just stick to sergeant.
It's also not a good idea to refer to your supply sgt as "Sugar Daddy".

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made Jun 1 at 2018 9:38 PM

MSG Danny Mathers — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:38:36 -0400

Never as a private, only if equal rank and friends or buddies.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2018 9:41 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:41:02 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member Never, unless a Sergeant tells you that it is ok, and then only to him or her. In the Marine Corps, this would be unacceptable.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2018 10:40 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:40:28 -0400

When you want to do extra PRT because you didn't do enough in the morning.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jun 1 at 2018 10:43 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:43:10 -0400

When you make E4 and have known them at least 2 yrs. LOL

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jun 2 at 2018 1:24 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 02 Jun 2018 01:24:56 -0400

Honest, when I'd see senior NCOs, I'd always do full title, however, where I was CMSgts were occasionally referred to as Chief, I did hear that, same with senior warrants once in awhile, though I also heard Mister, however, we didn't have many Army or other warrants where I was, typically...we did have other svc groups on my installations, we had one quite senior USCG O-5 I'd see occasionally, also numerous allied nation commissioned on senior staffs, I can't recall seeing any allied nation enlisted, however...just a few thoughts and observations for whatever their they're worth....

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 2 at 2018 3:33 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 02 Jun 2018 03:33:47 -0400

You can always call a Navy Chief Petty Officer “Chief”. Now, as for those other ranks that sometimes seem to think they’re Chiefs.... not sure.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2018 9:56 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 09:56:31 -0400

Don't ever call me Sarge, unless we are the same rank or you outrank me....

Response by MAJ Albert McCaig made Jun 8 at 2018 12:37 PM

MAJ Albert McCaig — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:37:55 -0400

Frankly, I never liked it and never used it. Sounds like you're trying to live the Beetle Bailey cartoon. Sergeant just isn't that hard to say.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Aug 25 at 2018 11:49 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:49:59 -0400

Uhm maybe never.

I was secretly hoping Sarge would finally die with Beetle Bailey. Even as an Officer I referred to NCOs as Sergeant, First Sergeant (never top), and Sergeant Major as appropriate.

Referring to Warrant Officers as Chief varies by Officer. The Warrant Officers that helped raise me were always Chief. Start with Sir/Ma'am until you figure out who you are dealing with.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 2:31 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 14:31:47 -0500

The biggest problem I read here is about respect. Gentlemen, we all have had to earn the rank that we wear. Most of my warriors call me Sergeant the rest call me Messdaddy. To answer the question to this young PFC, show the rank the respect it deserves most of the time it will be returned. I was always told that "Sarge" was a bottom feeding fish. Mostly I call a SPC Sarn't to prepare them for the next step but I address a NCO as Sergeant. 1SG as such unless told otherwise requested. Warrant Officers 1 dot- Mister 2 dot and beyond is considered Chief. Hope this kind of clears things up for you PFC Robert Cubilla

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2020 9:59 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 21:59:25 -0500

Chief is reserved for CW2-CW5, in the Army. Dont call a Navy WO "Chief", as their senior Petty Officers (NCOs) are "Chiefs". WO1 is Mr/Ms "insert last name" or Sir/Ma'am.
As for Sarge...no...just no.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2020 8:10 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 08:10:55 -0500

Don’t.
Really truly just don’t.

The Sarge thing is extremely unprofessional, I earned my rank and the only reason I don’t blow my top off when I’m not addressed by my actual rank is because it’s the army norm for all E5-E7 to be called Sargeant.

I busted my ass for rank and I’ll be damned if anyone makes a joke out of it