When the loneliness sets in and the overwhelming sadness takes over, how do you know you've had enough?

for me....its the isolation. even amongst people.

I don't have an answer to your question, trying to answer so many of my own, trying to find something...anything. Maybe its the day you stop asking, that's a bad day...?
I look at it like this....as long as the opportunity is there to try something, then not all hope is lost. You truly can not give up, until you can honestly say, I have tried every possible approach - to include, adjusting expectations.

Don't bail on us, brother...

SA Jim Arnold RallyPoint has fellow brothers and sisters that are here to listen. Please do not think that you are alone.

SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"

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I look outside and see the beauty of nature, and talk myself into wanting to see tomorrow. Sometimes it's a real struggle. And remember that suicide is a one way trip.
I also have two dogs and try to remember that I have a duty to them too.