When was the last time a Senior NCO stepped in for you or you stepped in for a subordinate?

2016-08-16T02:07:26-04:00

Response by SN Kevin Neff made Aug 16 at 2016 2:44 AM

2016-08-16T02:44:05-04:00

I hadn't seen it when I was in, then again we didn't have anything like this happen. Lol.

Response by TSgt Melissa Post made Aug 16 at 2016 4:11 AM

2016-08-16T04:11:29-04:00

Perhaps there has been a time that I was unaware of, but the last time I found out about this sort of thing happening was when I was a civilian and I came to work and found my boss (the owner of the company) on his hands and knees cleaning the bathroom. I asked him if I wasn't doing it right or something and his response was "no you were doing a good job. I just thought I would help you out today since you work so hard." I was blown away, bosses don't do the grunt work. At least not in my experience... I have never forgotten that and I had the most respect for someone that didn't just tell their workers what to do but would get down there and do it with them.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2016 4:14 AM

2016-08-16T04:14:34-04:00

CMDCM Gene Treants - Senior NCO's were always fair and helpful to me - whether leading or backing up the leader of a LRRP team, rescuing or keeping my young nurses safe from their mistakes, or rescuing or keeping me safe from my mistakes, I always looked up to them as a father figure . . . who when all else failed could be relied on for their wisdom and swift action. Sandy

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Aug 16 at 2016 6:00 AM

2016-08-16T06:00:11-04:00

Had a small incident involving a Spc 4 , he made a small mistake and I covered it up for him, no one had an issue with it, and the Spc 4 was very grateful.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 16 at 2016 7:10 AM

2016-08-16T07:10:10-04:00

Sunday. An NCO placed an airman to work while still on leave and I knew if I called her and told her about it she would make one that was scheduled off work in their place. Wrong answer and I did their work for them to avoid that.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2016 7:44 AM

2016-08-16T07:44:31-04:00

More times than not!
EM2 Sam Moore always stepped in for us in the Flight Deck Lighting Shop! So, did EM1 Smith. Both of these men, while on the USS America, helped shape me into the SNCO I was. While I was in the Air Force Reserves, SMSgt Bernie McGeehan and his Twin, MSgt George McGeehan always defended us. Regardless if you were right or wring, you made a decision and stuck to it. However, you had to learn from it and move on.

I think these men did more for me than I could ever do for others.

Response by SSgt Joseph Marquis made Aug 16 at 2016 7:49 AM

2016-08-16T07:49:10-04:00

Actually, I think you are looking at this all wrong.... Chief wants the LT to leave so he can do a little "wall to wall" counseling... That's what I would do. and when we were done it would be back to work, no further action required.
Chief doesn't want to protect the young sailor.... he wants to club him in the head without any witnesses.

Response by SGT Philip Roncari made Aug 16 at 2016 10:26 AM

2016-08-16T10:26:12-04:00

And oldie but a goodie coming in from the boonies for a three day RR,getting off the choppers a Major demands we hand over our weapons to the arms room since we weren't going to have to pull perimeter guard,our company CO only a lieutenant at the time respectfully declines,we kept our weapons,still wonder how he got away with it?

Response by PO1 Richard Cormier made Aug 16 at 2016 11:17 AM

2016-08-16T11:17:25-04:00

Had this happen in Sub School. Was an E5 (Instructor) that had an E6 (Student) giving me a hard time because I was Junior. Senior Chief (E8) and the Master Chief (E9) had a little conference with him and I. Told the E6 that he was surprised that E6 would talk to HIM that way. E6 said "Never Master Chief". Master Chief said "BS" "You basically told the CO the same thing as this Petty Officer represents both of us when he is instructing." "Surprised the Petty Officer didn't jack you up then and there but he was being polite your Rank. If this shit happens again, you WILL be thrown out of class and escorted to your boat by ME!" "Get the Hell out of here!"

First time I ever had a superior stand up for me. Made me proud of my Navy.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2016 1:17 PM

2016-08-16T13:17:28-04:00

1970, aboard the USS MIDWAY. PO1 for a Seaman Deuce. The First Class even told the Deuce to get a fresh cup of coffee while the former temporarily replaced the latter on the swab.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2016 3:28 PM

2016-08-16T15:28:59-04:00

It is a pretty unusual day that I DON'T go to bat for a subordinate.
Not to bail them out, but to make sure they continue to move forward.
This is my house, and I expect everyone to move in the same direction - towards being better than yesterday.

Response by PO1 Felix Rivera made Aug 16 at 2016 11:14 PM

2016-08-16T23:14:18-04:00

My CG unit pull into St Thomas for a mid patrol break and all I had on my mind was a steak burger and a beer. We got liberty around 11am and I was scheduled for watch around 1:30. I went to a joint frequented by tourists and locals got my burger and a beer. Decided that another would be ok. Ended up drinking three. What I did not know was that Unlike Red Stipe sold in the US, Red Stripe in the islands is a little more potent. Needless to say, I felt as if I had been rolled by a tank. I made it back to the ship but unfortunately was not able to assume the watch. I was told a few days later by some that they actually felt sorry for me. They had never seen a person struggle with pain the way I had. My lead PO made me assume a 24 hour watch, reported to the PO in charge what had happened and he agreed with the punishment, no one else would know. I don't know how the Div-O got wind of what happened. He was and OCS ENS that had shared his own screw ups but apparently my screw up was to much to bear. He attempted to report me until my 1st class intervened. The Div-O acquiesced but still after the fact had to get his licks in and did so in private. All I have to say is I learned a great deal from that incident. Thanks Russ!

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Aug 16 at 2016 11:37 PM

2016-08-16T23:37:43-04:00

I had a 1sg in Korea that had my back. I had a LT that didn't know his place and tried to step into my lane. I was acting PSG because our PSG was on leave in the States. He tried to admonish me in front of soldiers and my 1sg lost his shit on the LT. A few months later my PSG was gone again and I was to go to the promotion board. I was up the night before tending to a soldier in the hospital and I went into the board with absolutely no rest. Apparently he went to bat for me and I only needed to say the NCO creed to pass the board (which I did effortlessly ). He knew his subordinate leaders and had our backs if we did the right thing, even if the right thing was out of policy. Best 1sg I ever had.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Aug 17 at 2016 12:12 AM

2016-08-17T00:12:08-04:00

Long time ago, but for me it was when I was a newly minted PO-2 (E-5 for you non-seafaring types). I was lead LORAN A tech and standing watch at the time. (For you lubberly types, LORAN stands for Long Range Aid to Navigation and operating tolerances were very tight with guaranteed availability something like 99.9%. This enabled highly accurate navigation in the days before Sat Nav and was used by both the Navy and Air Force as well as commercially. Sadly, it was discontinued in 2010 leaving us with no backup to a very vulnerable system, but that is another story.) Anyhew ... I was on watch, and our Warrant officer came into the building and decided to do a snap inspection . Disregarding SOP, he yanked open the drawer on a timer, the on air timer. This in turn caused the transmitter to trip off air as well. After a minute or two of scrambling and swearing, our once perfect operating month now ruined. I rounded on the Warrant and said, "If you ever touch my equipment again without checking with me first I'll kick your ass!" Yea I was referred to NJP or as we called it Captain's Mast.

Well the day came, and I dressed up in my best set of dress blues, and reported to the CO's office promptly on time. Just before we went in the SCPO (E-8) pulled me aside and said, "Just say yes sir, no sir, let me handle this." The WO presented his charges and testimony and the CO turned to me and asked me if I had anything to add, "No sir." "Is what Mr. XXXXX said accurate?" "Yes sir." "Do you have anything to say for yourself?" "No sir." At that point the Senior Chief stepped in and said "Sir I would like to speak on PO Dougherty's behalf." The CO gave him permission and the Senior Chief then said, "In my opinion I believe PO Dougherty showed admirable restraint." "How do you figure chief?" "If I had been there I would have kicked his ass! Mr. XXXX was seriously negligent." The CO shook his head with a slight grin on his face, and said "PO Dougherty you are dismissed. Chief, Mr. XXXX I would like to talk to you privately."

Not sure what was said in that private talk, but the rest of the time he was there Mr. XXXX never touched a piece of my equipment while I was there. Think back perhaps the most aggravating part was that our equipment was always immaculate inside and out, we took great pride in keeping it spotless,and identifying problems before they occurred. When a piece did go down unexpectedly we took very personally, and Mr. XXXX knew that or as Electronics Officer should have.

Response by CPO Chief Pitts made Feb 21 at 2024 7:45 PM

2024-02-21T19:45:08-05:00

Never. The senior CPO's chose to ride my ass as they felt the 4.0 marks weren't deserved because I did it my way..