When will we see women actually serving in every MOS?

CH (MAJ) William Beaver — Mon, 11 May 2015 11:07:39 -0400

How long will it take to integrate every MOS in the military so that a woman will be serving in that role? The process is moving rapidly at this point.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2015 11:11 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 May 2015 11:11:48 -0400

Boy you're asking for a poo-storm, CH (MAJ) William Beaver...lol
I think this will only happen when there isn't debate on standards. For some MOS/AFSCs the standards are high for a reason - only the cream of the crop can make it. That particular MOS/AFSC is for the ruff & tumble people that do not know quit, & are able to physically perform the functions of said MOS/AFSC.

I think it will be some time, still, but with today's modern look at physical fitness, it may be sooner than later.

Response by LT Garth Young (Ret) made May 11 at 2015 12:36 PM

LT Garth Young (Ret) — Mon, 11 May 2015 12:36:22 -0400

George Carlin had a lot of things figured out right!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2015 3:17 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 May 2015 15:17:08 -0400

I can only see this working if the women got their own all female units. Otherwise the leadership couldn't pinish them for fear of an EO complaint and lord knows unit cohesion would be damned.

Response by PO2 Joseph Bembynista made May 11 at 2015 6:16 PM

PO2 Joseph Bembynista — Mon, 11 May 2015 18:16:51 -0400

As much as I have seen through 42 years in law enforcement a women is usually NOT equal to men for all jobs. In an office fine, I have been sent to assist to many time because it was a female officer. If your hired for PC, or requirements changed so you CAN pass then your not equal.

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 11 at 2015 7:00 PM

SFC Stephen King — Mon, 11 May 2015 19:00:16 -0400

When will it not matter what sex a person is. Military non specific if you can do the job and meet the standard.
Game on....

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2015 7:24 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 May 2015 19:24:03 -0400

Let me think the military is over 200 years old and we still can't come up with appropriate standards.

My pull-up skills came in very handy while deployed I don't think I could have survived without them. How many times have we tried to reinvent the APFT?

Until we can effectively write a standard there will be this issue. The only courses we have currently available are to keep the pull up standards and severely restrict or discriminate against women, or lower the body fat percentage across the board to 36% (Army highest allowable percentage per age and gender)

Until we come up with MOS based PT tests there won't be any good solutions.