Where can I find an example of how to fill out a 4187 for paternity leave?

2020-02-22T12:21:41-05:00

I am trying to take paternity leave and my leadership doesn't know how to fill out the 4187 and I can find any examples on line.

Response by PO1 M. Chandler made Feb 22 at 2020 9:22 PM

2020-02-22T21:22:21-05:00

there is such a thing now?! facepalm

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 4:34 AM

2020-02-23T04:34:58-05:00

Why would you need a 4187 for leave??? Turn in your leave form and go.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 11:49 AM

2020-02-23T11:49:31-05:00

I just went through this! It’s a 4187 to make you a secondary care giver to your spouse. The 4187 allows 21 days of paternity leave. You still need a leave form and on the reason you put care giver instead of paternity leave. My OPS had a format and you turn in discharge paperwork for baby and they handle the rest.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 12:41 PM

2020-02-23T12:41:56-05:00

Why would there be a 4187 to request leave? We have a leave form for that.

Response by SFC Marc W. made Feb 23 at 2020 1:01 PM

2020-02-23T13:01:01-05:00

To retroactively take the additional 11 days of paternity leave, I had to fill out a 4187 designating myself as a secondary caretaker. After reading through former sec. Espers directive about creating the 21 day paternity leave, I was not under the impression that taking the leave post directive would require the 4187 still. However, that was 4 months ago that I took the retroactive days, so that very well may be the new standard for taking paternity leave.

Army Directive 2019-05 (Army Military Parental Leave Program) dated 22 January 2019 is the memorandum you'll need to look up and it will spell out exactly who needs the 4187 as well as what needs to be in it. Make sure you read all of it.

Response by SFC Marc W. made Feb 23 at 2020 1:04 PM

2020-02-23T13:04:47-05:00

Army Directive 2019-05 (Army Military Parental Leave Program) dated 22 January 2019.

This has all your answers

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 2:29 PM

2020-02-23T14:29:43-05:00

If it's your kid all you need is the DA 31, the 4187 is if you are assuming duties to become the primary caregiver.