https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/where-does-12y-and-35g-usually-cap-out-at-rank-wise-in-the-guard <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this discussion has been asked before, and I&#39;ve looked through them all. I&#39;ve been out and am considering getting back in. From my understanding 12y would be the more valuable MOS to hold as a civilian, but 35 g would be the best mos to have in service because of the advancement opportunities. So my question would be where does 12 y and 35 g usually cap out at rank wise in the guard? I&#39;ve never been in an engineer company that isn&#39;t a sapper company, and have no idea about a military intel company. <br /><br />I wouldn&#39;t want to lose rank, but you can do anything for three part time years. <br /><br /><br />I&#39;m also curious as to what the modern consensus is on which is better since the last time it was asked. Would a combat engineer be at home in another engineer company, or are those guys so different it wouldn&#39;t really matter?<br /><br />Thinking about moving out west. There is a college that will have a GIS major in 2022 that 12y would directly benefit, but also if people think it would be better just to go for the 35g, I still might do it and just use the tuition assistance for the major. Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:40:47 -0500 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/where-does-12y-and-35g-usually-cap-out-at-rank-wise-in-the-guard <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this discussion has been asked before, and I&#39;ve looked through them all. I&#39;ve been out and am considering getting back in. From my understanding 12y would be the more valuable MOS to hold as a civilian, but 35 g would be the best mos to have in service because of the advancement opportunities. So my question would be where does 12 y and 35 g usually cap out at rank wise in the guard? I&#39;ve never been in an engineer company that isn&#39;t a sapper company, and have no idea about a military intel company. <br /><br />I wouldn&#39;t want to lose rank, but you can do anything for three part time years. <br /><br /><br />I&#39;m also curious as to what the modern consensus is on which is better since the last time it was asked. Would a combat engineer be at home in another engineer company, or are those guys so different it wouldn&#39;t really matter?<br /><br />Thinking about moving out west. There is a college that will have a GIS major in 2022 that 12y would directly benefit, but also if people think it would be better just to go for the 35g, I still might do it and just use the tuition assistance for the major. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:40:47 -0500 2020-12-07T23:40:47-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/where-does-12y-and-35g-usually-cap-out-at-rank-wise-in-the-guard?n=6561191&urlhash=6561191 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was, once upon a time, a 96H. 96H became 35H when the re-numbered everything, and then 35Hs got folded into 35Gs. At the time, there were exactly three E8 positions in the entire Army for 96H (two 1SGs and a MSG, IIRC). There weren&#39;t a whole lot more for 96D (which became 35G). With the consolidation, there still aren&#39;t many. So.... you are probably looking at capping out at SFC. <br /><br />My last assignment before retirement (3 years ago) was in a MI Company nestled inside an Engineer Battalion for a BCT. That Engineer Battalion had exactly 0 12Ys - and 0 35Gs. Those were all up in the BDE S2. I *think* BDE had ONE 12Y and a handful (5?) of 35Gs, but IIRC (and that is a BIG if - I didn&#39;t spend a lot of time talking to the BDE S2) the 12Y was the senior person and the 35Gs were assigned under him. I think 12Y was SFC and 35Gs were SSG and below. I think.<br /><br />However, if you are only looking at three years in the Guard, and you are looking at entering as a SGT (maybe a SPC, if the fates are unkind), I don&#39;t think you really have to worry about capping out in either MOS. Advancement is a total crap shoot in just about any MOS, especially in the Guard. <br /><br />As far as how close a 12Y is to a 12B, I think they are probably more different than similar (but I have never held either MOS, to be fair). And an MI Company is definitely different than a Sapper Company. Sappers are grunts. Smart grunts, but grunts nonetheless. MI folks are POGs, even the hooah ones. And 35Gs are not, generally, the hooah ones. It will be a bit of a culture shock, regardless of 12Y or 35G. I think 12Y may be a little bit LESS of a culture shock, but I could be entirely wrong.<br /><br />I don&#39;t think I completely answered your question, but I hope I have at least given you some good information to get started with. I&#39;d be happy to answer any other specific questions you have that you think I might be able to provide valuable insight on. SFC Casey O'Mally Tue, 08 Dec 2020 01:11:33 -0500 2020-12-08T01:11:33-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/where-does-12y-and-35g-usually-cap-out-at-rank-wise-in-the-guard?n=6561209&urlhash=6561209 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you want a job in the private sector, 35G is a good bet. There are a lot of jobs available from working at National Geographic, to designing maps for Uber. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 08 Dec 2020 01:43:15 -0500 2020-12-08T01:43:15-05:00 2020-12-07T23:40:47-05:00