Where is ISIS getting its Toyotas from?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 01:59:40 -0400

I've often said that in order to defeat ISIS we should cut off the support it is receiving monetarily. The U.S. treasury is conducting an investigation into the International Supply chains and capital flow in the ME.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/politics/u-s-treasury-isis-toyota/index.html

US Treasury inquires about ISIS use of Toyota vehicles - CNNPolitics.com

The U.S. Treasury is seeking information from Toyota about how ISIS got possession of the automaker's trucks, which have been shown in ISIS propoganda videos.

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Oct 8 at 2015 2:25 AM

SrA Matthew Knight — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 02:25:11 -0400

My guess is from the citizens and militaries of the ones that are fleeing them. The same place essentially that they have come by American specific vehicles. I have seen pics of them in Fords and even Hummvees. They just take whatever is left behind and paint them black.

Response by CPO Andy Carrillo, MS made Oct 8 at 2015 2:33 AM

CPO Andy Carrillo, MS — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 02:33:40 -0400

Toyota's are excellent vehicles and it would be silly for the Junior Varsity to be seen riding around in anything less. The anti-aircraft weapons were not a listed option for my AWD 6-cyl. RAV4. Otherwise we're very happy with our little Reda...NOT shown above.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Oct 8 at 2015 2:39 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 02:39:35 -0400

I guess they are some pretty damn good vehicle and well suited for that part of the world but I don't see Toyota putting this on their Advertising in the Near Future "Toyota the Choice of Islamic Fascist" OMG!

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 8 at 2015 8:20 AM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:20:44 -0400

CPT Private RallyPoint Member - My guess is that they simply take them from the local population. There is certainly no shortage of Toyota trucks in that region.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 8 at 2015 8:22 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:22:38 -0400

*I refuse to answer this question honestly as "big brother" is watching, and I don't want the CIA to kick in my door. I am certain these vehicles have in no way passed through American hands. God bless America, bald eagles and mullets*

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 10:34 AM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:34:14 -0400

So not AutoTrader?

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Oct 8 at 2015 10:54 AM

Maj Mike Sciales — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:54:05 -0400

They get a lot of their equipment from the Iraq Gov't. The equipment is either abandoned by fleeing troops or stolen by agents within the Iraqi MoD.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 11:05 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:05:15 -0400

Toyota/Hiluxs have been running around the Middle East for some time. Many that have been deployed have seen Corollas running trails in the mountains of Afghanistan. Nothing really new, but new model year vehicles are a little more odd

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Oct 8 at 2015 11:46 AM

SSG Warren Swan — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:46:42 -0400

Maybe because the air bag recall hasn't hit them yet?

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Oct 8 at 2015 12:46 PM

SrA Edward Vong — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:46:30 -0400

They look pretty old. I wouldn't question Toyota it until they start acquiring the new Tacomas, Tundras, or the Hilux....but the question still stands, where in God's name are they getting these vehicles....probably at the local CarMax.

Response by SPC David S. made Oct 8 at 2015 1:51 PM

SPC David S. — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:51:44 -0400

You can’t underestimate the value of having a vehicle that is fast, will never break down, and is strong enough to mount a heavy weapon in the back. 4x4 equivalent to the AK-47. If I had to guess Turkey in a oil/truck swap. Funny thing is Toyota makes a van called the Isis.

A Toyota is included with the deluxe terrorist starter kit - 23 mm ZU-23-2 light anti-aircraft gun not included sold separately.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 2:13 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:13:30 -0400

They stole them just like the armored vehicles that they nabbed when the Iraqi Army ran like cowards. The Toyota Helix is widely used throughout the Middle East.

Response by LTC Christopher Sands made Oct 8 at 2015 7:13 PM

LTC Christopher Sands — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:13:51 -0400

They have a lot of oil money, even if it is only $50.00 a barrel.

Response by PO2 Mike Frey made Oct 8 at 2015 7:26 PM

PO2 Mike Frey — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:26:44 -0400

I am sure ISIS can be shut down by a Toyota recall. Toyota has like 3 a year on Tacomas

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 8:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:48:20 -0400

The same place they have been getting their weapons....Iraqi Army. Never been fired and dropped once.

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Oct 9 at 2015 12:25 AM

CPT Ahmed Faried — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 00:25:50 -0400

I have always wondered.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 4:22 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:22:46 -0400

Those tan and white Toyotas can be found all over North Africa and the Middle East. There is no mystery where they came from.

Response by SFC Daniel Zelch made Oct 9 at 2015 6:47 AM

SFC Daniel Zelch — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 06:47:12 -0400

The real question that should be asked. Why is it that unknown photographers can capture photo after photo of ISIS convoys. Yet none of these convoys are taken out by A-10s or an Apache squadron. These are targets of opprotunity,

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 8:51 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:51:23 -0400

Wouldnt surprise me if the original BOS has US goverment on it