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ROTC, OCS, West Point, or WOCS. Which commissioning source do you believe produces the best Army officers? 2015-03-22T12:10:55-04:00 SSG Adam Reed 545140 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-30429"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhich-commissioning-source-do-you-believe-produces-the-best-army-officers%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Which+commissioning+source+do+you+believe+produces+the+best+Army+officers%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhich-commissioning-source-do-you-believe-produces-the-best-army-officers&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhich commissioning source do you believe produces the best Army officers?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/which-commissioning-source-do-you-believe-produces-the-best-army-officers" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="116ee817d68bc9cfc44f4f0a0e37b76e" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/030/429/for_gallery_v2/officer.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/030/429/large_v3/officer.jpg" alt="Officer" /></a></div></div>Of all the different ways to become an Army officer, which path produces the better candidates? ROTC, OCS, West Point, or WOCS. Which commissioning source do you believe produces the best Army officers? 2015-03-22T12:10:55-04:00 2015-03-22T12:10:55-04:00 COL Ted Mc 545176 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>An interesting question.<br /><br />I would suspect that someone who is going to be a good officer can survive the most screwed up training program and someone who is going to be a bad officer cannot be improved by the best training program (absent being booted off the course and told to go home).<br /><br />IOW, the "best" course is the one which fits the potential officer's characteristics the best.<br /><br />For some this might mean spending "time in the ranks", for others it might not.<br /><br />The other problem - for those who spend "time in the ranks" would be unlearning behavior which works for NCOs but doesn't work for officers. Response by COL Ted Mc made Mar 22 at 2015 12:44 PM 2015-03-22T12:44:24-04:00 2015-03-22T12:44:24-04:00 BG David Fleming III 545192 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you gage it by the number of Generals appointed historically, then I would say ROTC! Great question Response by BG David Fleming III made Mar 22 at 2015 1:03 PM 2015-03-22T13:03:04-04:00 2015-03-22T13:03:04-04:00 Capt Private RallyPoint Member 688754 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The academies... We get trained by the best SNCOs and FGOs. We take more classes and harder classes than most. We hit the ground running but aren't too stuck in our ways. We are lacking in humility though. Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2015 12:56 PM 2015-05-22T12:56:26-04:00 2015-05-22T12:56:26-04:00 CSM Carl Cunningham 945715 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are "studs and duds" in every organization in the Army. It is a fact that you cannot hide from. I do not think there is one source better than the other. It is just a combination of the type of person that wants to be an officer and their trainer. If one or the other has issues, then the product will have issues. They all produce "studs and duds". Response by CSM Carl Cunningham made Sep 6 at 2015 2:36 PM 2015-09-06T14:36:45-04:00 2015-09-06T14:36:45-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 2603958 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>All of the above and none of the above. I&#39;ve seen top notch from each source and shit bags from each source. It&#39;s all about mentorship. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2017 7:21 PM 2017-05-27T19:21:59-04:00 2017-05-27T19:21:59-04:00 SFC Greg Bruorton 3468601 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve had Army JROTC, but none of those listed. My first thoughts focus on OCS or WOCS because many attending those schools are former NCOs who hold a vast amount of experience and leadership components that will give credence to the second lieutenant graduate. Response by SFC Greg Bruorton made Mar 21 at 2018 9:06 PM 2018-03-21T21:06:10-04:00 2018-03-21T21:06:10-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 3468652 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>All of them, Good with experience, and worse with no experience, and common scene. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 9:25 PM 2018-03-21T21:25:49-04:00 2018-03-21T21:25:49-04:00 CWO3 Randy Weston 3470043 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As been said, all of them have their great officers and all of them have their not so great officers (ok, I am being kind). What it boils down to is the person. Do they have the foresight and the ability to see the big picture for the good of all. Just a couple points out of hundreds that make an effective and a good officer. I have even met some pretty good Academy grads, and my opinion is a bit biased. Response by CWO3 Randy Weston made Mar 22 at 2018 10:04 AM 2018-03-22T10:04:03-04:00 2018-03-22T10:04:03-04:00 Capt Daniel Goodman 3504923 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wassupposed to have been Army ROTC, I went USAF OTS instead, so I&#39;m probably somewhat biased, I suppose.... Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 2 at 2018 9:29 AM 2018-04-02T09:29:22-04:00 2018-04-02T09:29:22-04:00 Capt Daniel Goodman 3504932 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Then again my Army ROTC unit trained a good deal at West Point, plus, my next younger brother was USMMA Kings Point, a friend went Navy OCS, my wife&#39;s Dad was Army artillery OCS at Ft Sill in WW2, and I&#39;ve got friends, we both do, who were SUNY Maritime, anotherwas Army WOCS, so I suppose I&#39;m rather a mixed bag on the topic, I guess....went meenie minie, I guess.... Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 2 at 2018 9:32 AM 2018-04-02T09:32:01-04:00 2018-04-02T09:32:01-04:00 LTC Charles T Dalbec 5144707 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Direct Appointment ~ Mustang coming from NCO ranks with Experience Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made Oct 19 at 2019 12:42 PM 2019-10-19T12:42:08-04:00 2019-10-19T12:42:08-04:00 LTC Lee Bouchard 5155134 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Good call SGM Hayden. Studs or Duds to be determined over time. In my experience within the first year as a troop leader and not driving a desk. I have trained/mentored many young company grade officers. If they show me the desire to lead, succeed, take command when shit goes down hill and are looking after the welfare of their troops the source of commission may matter little. I have worked with E-4&#39;s and 5&#39;s who would have made better officers than the &quot;DUD&quot;s hands down.<br />As a Rater and Sr. Rater I made every effort to reduce the DUD population to the extent possible. Response by LTC Lee Bouchard made Oct 22 at 2019 4:41 PM 2019-10-22T16:41:45-04:00 2019-10-22T16:41:45-04:00 2015-03-22T12:10:55-04:00