While doing circuit pt, is downgrading of the APFU mandatory even though you are no longer in formation?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:16:35 -0500

Pretty simple question I think. If you know for sure please paste the section from the regulation, da pam, etc...

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 12 at 2017 11:35 PM

COL Charles Williams — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:35:06 -0500

You question does not make sense?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2017 11:46 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:46:29 -0500

So I cannot just edit and at to...

Time: pt time
Uniform: full winters
Weather: warmer than usual

We form up and do the normal army stuff, our platoon falls out and forms up on the track's field. We downgrade cap and gloves and conduct prep drills and mmd1&2.

Time to do circuits. We fall out of formation, the individual running pt states that everyone must downgrade to shorts/long sleeve. We are no longer in formation... why must EVERYONE downgrade? The purpose of layers is to downgrade as the individual sees fit.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 12 at 2017 11:49 PM

COL Charles Williams — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:49:41 -0500

I don't think that is mandatory.... I think it should be individual preference doing PT on your own...

Response by SFC George Smith made Feb 13 at 2017 12:13 AM

SFC George Smith — Mon, 13 Feb 2017 00:13:47 -0500

the Majority of the Physical training we did, was at Team level... It was so the Team Sgt. and Team Leader could assess the level of the Team and its members... when we were doing Pt other than at Regular Designated Tines we could ware WTF we wanted...
and there was No regs Regarding out of Formation Uniforms...
But we did Ruck marches and Run swim runs and a Lot of other Stupid Things regular Army would Laugh at...

Response by 1SG Al Brown made Feb 13 at 2017 7:09 AM

1SG Al Brown — Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:09:08 -0500

Simple answer. You are "formed" in a circular formation. It's still unit PT, and an NCO is still in charge of the formation. That NCO dictates the uniform.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2017 6:01 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Feb 2017 18:01:31 -0500

SSG Private RallyPoint Member Uniform for pt is mandated by the training schedule that your commander publishes for every training week, same as the duty uniform. So the answer is no, is not mandatory to downgrade or keep a certain pt uniform on, it's all about common sense at that point. The NCO in charge of pt usually makes that determination, but if he/she is smart, will ask the formation what they prefer. If your NCO has no common sense, just let him or her borrow some of yours.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2017 5:33 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:33:21 -0500

It is a matter of uniformity, you are not conducting PT on your own, there for you all must be in the same uniform. It all boils down to having standards. Who ever is in charge of the period of instruction should use a common sense approach to determine the appropriate uniform for the conditions. It is all about looking professional. If everyone is in a different uniform are we really conducting unit (at any size) physical training or is it is a group of individuals that happen to be be at the same place at the same time. Some places also dictate the uniform depending on the temperature outside.