Who is currently on the P15-17 officer promotion scroll list?

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:29:20 -0400

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2017 12:24 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 12:24:58 -0400

I had never heard of "scrolling" until I was selected for CPT (twice, because it turns out that the first board means nothing). After waiting for a few drills thinking that my promotion would come any time, I was asked to put together a third packet. What is "scrolling"? How long has this been required?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2017 9:21 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:21:53 -0400

I'm on P08-17, still waiting. I didn't even realize they're already so far out on creating scrolls.

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Oct 13 at 2017 9:27 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:27:21 -0400

Saw progress today. At the Awaiting Chief of Staff phase!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2017 2:46 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 02:46:06 -0500

I am on that list. I got a call at the end of OCT to deploy within 2 weeks to Afghanistan as an advisor. I gave a warno that my promotion was static. Of course all the highers give a nod they will help but nothing so far.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2017 4:37 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:37:05 -0500

Sir, here is a lengthy discussion we've been having for earlier scrolls that are still awaiting orders. I am on P10-17 and have found it personally helpful to track the progress of the scrolls before us. To the best of my understanding, scrolls P01-17 through P07-17 took an average of 209 days before orders were published. However, I think P08-17 and P09-17 are pushing 240 days, and P10-17 just passed 200 days. It also appears that no P scrolls have received promotions since August. Hopefully we'll all get our orders published soon...

https://www.rallypoint.com/status-updates/anyone-else-on-scroll-p10-17?urlhash=3184339

Anyone else on scroll P10-17? | RallyPoint

Anyone else on scroll P10-17?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2018 6:34 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:34:33 -0500

I am also on this list. A contact in DC said in DEC that it had not completed the "Exemplary Conduct Screening" yet. My previous experience with the G1 Gateway/FedRec Packet Status site for promotion to MAJ showed no movement for a majority of the time and then quickly jumped several steps down the line and was completed quickly once it started moving. However, most people recommend not paying any attention to the site as it is not accurately maintained.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2018 3:01 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:01:37 -0500

Hi all, the folks at NGAUS have suggested reaching out to your representatives in Congress to ask them to fix this process. If anyone is interested, I've drafted a rough template below you could edit (it's really too long) and contact your state reps. I don't know if it will help any of us on the P-17 scrolls at this point, but hopefully it will bring some attention to the issue:

Dear Sir or Ma’am,

I am writing you today to respectfully ask that you and your colleagues in Congress take up legislation and/or investigation to mend the broken process of officer promotions for Army National Guard soldiers. As it is, the citizen soldiers who lead our nation’s vital reserve component wait months and years for promotions that they have earned and have worked diligently and bravely for, often at the cost of their families and civilian employers.

Sir/Ma’am, I am bringing this issue to your attention today because I believe that many in Congress are not aware of the lengthy and demoralizing process within which we subject our Army National Guard officers in order to excel and move forward in leadership positions. As the process stands now, Army NG Officers must serve their minimum time in grade prior to submitting an application packet for promotion. Once a packet is initially submitted to an officer’s unit, the unit must then submit the packet to the State National Guard Bureau. After a matter of weeks or months dependent upon the State, the Officer is then issued promotion orders from the State, however, these orders have no official bearing on that soldier’s rank or pay. Following State promotion, the officer’s promotion packet is then sent up to the federal level for the federal recognition process. Their packet then waits for several weeks or months to become assigned to a “scroll” or group, which then moves through several different federal offices together, such as the Judge Advocate General, the Director of Military Personnel Management, the Assistant Secretary of Army, Manning, & Resources, and the Secretary of Defense, to name a few, all the while awaiting promotion approval and the issuance of promotion orders.

As this process is continuing, sir/ma’am, the leaders of the Army National Guard are often serving in leadership positions higher than their current rank, missing wages for months and years from the higher rank that they are waiting to promote to, and jeopardizing their future career trajectory as their time in grade for promotion to the next rank does begin until federal promotion orders are issued.

In my personal situation, sir/ma’am, <enter your personal promotion story>

Although this process, for myself, is frustrating and defeating, I by no means am experiencing the worst of the effects. I know colleagues who are deploying while awaiting promotion, and are serving our country in harm’s way while the bureaucracy and red tape of this process are negatively impacting the pay that these soldiers are able to send home to their families. Officers who have served proudly in the National Guard for decades are having to retire at lower ranks because they are not able to promote in time, even though they were eligible for promotion months and years prior to their retirement date.

Sir/ma’am, this list could go on and on. And, respectfully, I am writing you today because it is my firm belief that Congress is not aware of how broken this process is, or else champions of the military such as yourself would surely be on the Hill advocating on our behalf. Thank you for your service in Congress and for your efforts on behalf of everyone in our state. If you have any questions or if I can be of any assistance in shining light onto this vital matter, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Very Respectfully,
<Your Name>

You can locate your Member of Congress here: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members

Members of the United States Congress - GovTrack.us

The United States Congress is made up of 100 senators, 435 representatives, and 6 delegates to the House of Representatives.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2018 3:25 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 15:25:42 -0500

Someone posted this status update on another forum, stating it was current on 24JAN18:

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Feb 8 at 2018 8:57 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 20:57:21 -0500

I just noticed today that the tracker moved from day 0!

Day 141 - Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General

We're on the move! Anyone else?

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Mar 21 at 2018 11:19 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:19:53 -0400

Movement today. Finally at DPMP.
"Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P15-17; 182 Days in DoD Approval cycle"

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2018 11:25 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 May 2018 11:25:08 -0400

Has there been any movement on P15-17?

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made May 4 at 2018 2:17 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Fri, 04 May 2018 14:17:32 -0400

P15-17 just moved to OSD this morning on the tracker! Spent a total of 11 days at Sec Army.
Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; P15-17; 226 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 3:22 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 May 2018 15:22:15 -0400

So who's left from the P-Scrolls? P11-17, P15-17? And I think P1,2,3,4,5-18 are all at SECDEF. I can't believe they just let them sit there. It's so weird

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 5:47 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 05:47:53 -0400

Any changes to P15-17 or predictions?

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made May 30 at 2018 7:03 AM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Wed, 30 May 2018 07:03:15 -0400

Congrats everyone here! You are now promoted!

FedRec-Promotion-UV to CPT, MAJ, LT
Description Published: SO# 118; 2018-05-29