Posted on Nov 11, 2016
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***Please read my post in this thread.***
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Please excuse the way this is written. After getting injured my brain has problems keeping everything flowing when I get long winded. And there is just a little bit of swearing but I am not sorry for it.

Instead of protesting the side that won, why don't you protest your side because they set it up for your own terrible candidate? People need to look at their own side before bitching? I am pretty damn embarrassed how both sides are acting right now. Just like the sign in the pic, this is not okay. From either side. Both sides are doing terrible shit to each other and it needs to stop before we tear each other apart and wreck the country.

Losing side. Go ahead and demonstrate, it's your right but don't wreck stuff that isn’t yours. Fix your party and work to win the next election. Push to get better leadership and a real plan for a presidential victory instead of trying to game the system and set it up for a particular candidate that had terrible flaws from the get go, before the Republicans selected Trump. You guys lost and it’s your own damn fault. Y'all say just as much hateful shit as the winning side. Just because they didn't vote for your terrible candidate and they voted for their own terrible candidate doesn't make all of them racists or misogynists or whatever ist you want to call them. Any of you people hear of being a gracious loser? If you are an American citizen you aren’t going to be kicked out. If you have relatives that are here illegally, it is no one’s fault but theirs if they get kicked out. They are breaking the law by the way they came here and by staying. Why shouldn't people be pissed that they are here? Why shouldn't whites dislike BLM when you see them tearing up and burning cities during "peaceful protests" (that shit isn't a protest that’s a riot) and beating whites because they voted Republican or just because they are there? Yeah that’s going to get whites on your side. BTW all the people that voted for Trump aren’t uneducated, redneck hillbillies, that own guns. I’m probably wrong on the gun part but it’s their constitutional right just like your right to peacefully protest.

Winning side. Quit saying hateful shit that just proves how much of a fucking racist you are. Shit like this is making me embarrassed to be white. Any of you dumb asses ever hear of being a gracious winner? Pull your heads out of your asses, you are just adding fuel to the fire. All Muslims are not terrorists and a hijab isn't going to hurt you. It's part of their religion get over it, jack asses. Democrats aren't traitors. Do I think some of the stuff they have pulled over the last few years is legal, or right? Hell no. If your side would have lost, there wasn't going to be a new revolution. Your ignorant for thinking that and showing how much of a dumb ass you are by saying it. That shit would have been shut down in a hurry. The white race isn't the best thing since sliced bread. Everyone can contribute to the best country on the planet and if you don't think so you can leave. So, get your heads out of your asses.

I voted Trump because of the way the Dems were treating people that didn't think like them and IMO the terrible leadership and direction this country is/was going. Try and label me a racist (I dare you), my wife is Korean, my kids are AmerAsian and my best friend is a black man who by the way voted for Trump. I do believe we have the right to protect our borders. If we have people coming in illegally, build the wall or have something in place to stop them. You lock your doors, don't you? It is to protect you and your belongings. We have perimeter fences and other security measures when we are deployed. Why in the hell is it such a bad thing that we do it at home? What, you don't want a secure homeland? Everything shouldn’t be free. Go earn it. Everyone doesn’t deserve a trophy. Winners get the trophies.

OK, rant over.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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SPC Randy Torgerson - Please quote me where I called someone a racist.
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SGM Steve Wettstein - Quit saying hateful shit that just proves how much of a fucking racist you are. Shit like this is making me embarrassed to be white.

I see you edited out that you said Trump was the racist for saying so much stuff. Thats fine, I'm glad you took it out.
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SPC Randy Torgerson - I figured you would go with the generalization for the quote but you weren't here at the time so...The last I edited it was 3 months ago so I have no clue what you are talking about. I voted for him and never called him a racist. And you're 3 months late to the conversation. There was a lot of negative stuff being posted. If you want to Monday morning quarterback 3 months after the fact that is your prerogative.
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SPC Randy Torgerson
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SGM Steve Wettstein - I was notified via RallyPoint about this conversational topic on the day I made my first comment this week. I certainly did not read all or even most of the posts. I simply responded to your comments. I'm not out to monday morning quarterback and if you somewhere have since changed your ideas or if not meant the way they sounded, then I apologize for not finding it and reading it.
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we know from the wikileaks that at least the most visible/violent protesters were paid actors. it's reasonable to think that these groups are still being paid to behave poorly. I'm more embarrassed for them than for us.
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SPC Britanny *Winnie* Balthaser - you gotta look up SGT David Baker's post in Trump. It's an interview with a CBS reporter who discusses how out of touch the DNC really is and how it cost them.
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MAJ Charles Blake - It wasn't so cool of a name when I was growing up. I constantly heard, "that's a different name, I had a dog named Thor once."
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SMSgt Thor Merich - I never had a dog named Thor but I did see at the National Cemetery when I buried my dad that you can have the "Hammer of Thor" on your grave marker. I told my entire family right then and there, I want this.
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exactly Major, I'm not embarrassed for or about the protesters because as long as they don't cross the line to rioting they are just using the only means available to show their concerns, but I am embarrassed for the so called leaders on both sides that have allowed this much division to grow, it hasn't happened over night and although many have said that race and other relations have improved since the riots of 60's and 70's ....tell that to the recipients of all the hatred, the young children in schools bother me the most because someone had to teach them that and that's pretty scary, it's easy for us to say they don't see it just because they aren't a victim of it but is a different story for those that are, we need understanding and tolerance and soon or this situation is going to reach a level that will be hard to control, you don't wait until your house is in flames to extinguish a burning trash can, best to all
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SrA Edward Vong
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A previous post of mine explained exactly how I feel, I'll quote directly from it.

As many have noticed, despite my strong beliefs, I have remained pretty quiet during this interesting time. I may come off left to certain people, but those that truly know me, understand what my views are. I always make the effort to take a moderate stance and try to understand both sides of the argument. I’m not here to talk about who was elected. As Americans, we all go the president we deserve, because WE put him in office.

What I am here to talk about is how this election has brought out the ugly side in all of us. I have seen close friends who have grown up together broken. I have seen veterans who have served together lose everything they have worked for. I have seen marriages torn. Why? Because of a difference in opinion? Don’t get me wrong, I have opinions of my own and strongly believe them, but that doesn’t make me resent others for disagreeing with me. We as a nation, community, all the way down to the friendship level need to start working together. I can truly say, we are now a nation divided.

“United we stand, divided we fall”
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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SrA Edward Vong Nicely stated.
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SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
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Well said, especially the last line. What gets me, is how one side looks at words as being more horrific than actions and deeds. Its crazy.
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PO2 Brian McFerron
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SrA Edward Vong, well stated! We have to be together, now more than ever! Thanks for your service! RM2 US Navy, post-Vietnam era.
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