What are your thoughts about the brand new change for Army enlisted promotions coming up in June 2024 for the ranks of SGT-MSG!? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Who is looking forward to the brand new change for Army enlisted promotions coming up in June 2024 for the ranks of SGT-MSG!? <br /><br />And what are your thoughts about it?<br /> - promotion to SGT required no PME<br /> - promotion to SSG requires BLC<br /> - promotion to SFC requires ALC<br /> - promotion to MSG required SLC Fri, 03 May 2024 11:13:24 -0400 What are your thoughts about the brand new change for Army enlisted promotions coming up in June 2024 for the ranks of SGT-MSG!? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Who is looking forward to the brand new change for Army enlisted promotions coming up in June 2024 for the ranks of SGT-MSG!? <br /><br />And what are your thoughts about it?<br /> - promotion to SGT required no PME<br /> - promotion to SSG requires BLC<br /> - promotion to SFC requires ALC<br /> - promotion to MSG required SLC SFC Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 03 May 2024 11:13:24 -0400 2024-05-03T11:13:24-04:00 Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 3 at 2024 11:20 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8744585&urlhash=8744585 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If all that is the case, then why are they planning to wipe out temporary promotions? SGM Bill Frazer Fri, 03 May 2024 11:20:41 -0400 2024-05-03T11:20:41-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2024 12:52 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8744690&urlhash=8744690 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I do like how BLC and ALC are now worth promotion points for those promotable SPC/CPL’s and SGT’s in low density MOS’s where it is much more difficult to get that promotion. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 03 May 2024 12:52:26 -0400 2024-05-03T12:52:26-04:00 Response by 2LT Brian L. made May 3 at 2024 2:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8744767&urlhash=8744767 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My question is... with the low number of recent recruits and now making promotion &quot;easier&quot; what are the implications three years from now? Especially at SFC and higher the ranks might clog up more. 2LT Brian L. Fri, 03 May 2024 14:05:29 -0400 2024-05-03T14:05:29-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2024 2:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8744773&urlhash=8744773 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That&#39;s all fine and dandy, but I want to k ow how the issue of sear distribution will be fixed....especially for those very low density MOSs that get maybe 4-5 seats a year. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 03 May 2024 14:09:13 -0400 2024-05-03T14:09:13-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2024 9:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8746064&urlhash=8746064 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Theoretically this shouldn’t affect later promotions as much as you’re thinking, because the PME is still required for advancement. Really all this means is the temporary promotions from the last year no longer have a deadline to make their PME. I think SMAs intent is to give these NCOs the visual confirmation (ie stripes) of their position, and not punish them for the continual backlog at PME courses. Ultimately, they still need it if they intend to continue their career. The timing is just less critical. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 04 May 2024 21:57:10 -0400 2024-05-04T21:57:10-04:00 Response by PO1 Robert Ryan made May 5 at 2024 11:39 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8746384&urlhash=8746384 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was i the Army everything g was based on performance, Time in Garde, and time in Service. If you were an NCO and had attended the NCO Academy it was plus. NCOES was also a help. March 1967-December 1977. PO1 Robert Ryan Sun, 05 May 2024 11:39:40 -0400 2024-05-05T11:39:40-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2024 2:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8747427&urlhash=8747427 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>IMO the Army makes this way more difficult than it needs to be. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 06 May 2024 14:40:05 -0400 2024-05-06T14:40:05-04:00 Response by SSG Bob Robertson made Jun 30 at 2024 3:00 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8800498&urlhash=8800498 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That is absolutely ridiculous. Promoting a person without the proper knowledge and or experience. The entire military is already dropping standards. All standards. Education, physical, and on top of that my commander may be a female who thinks she is a cat or dog. 45 years ago when I was a recruiter if you smoked pot you would be sent to sent for a psychiatric appointment when you were at MEPS. Now you can be an obese man who thinks she is a pregnant women and still get in. The military as a whole is all screwed up. God help us in case of a real war. SSG Bob Robertson Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:00:24 -0400 2024-06-30T15:00:24-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2024 1:02 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8804298&urlhash=8804298 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s painful as some of us had to complete the next grade’s PME before being placed on an OML to then be promoted to the next grade.<br />It’s a kick in the groin to see what this core does sometimes as it does not make sense just to make commands happy. It’s also a joke to see this core go backwards. It’s one of the reasons there’s more retirements than enlistments. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 04 Jul 2024 13:02:17 -0400 2024-07-04T13:02:17-04:00 Response by SGM(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2024 9:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8824077&urlhash=8824077 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Army tried this once before. All it did was backlog the required schooling even worse. The Army is taking a step backwards…again.<br />PME should be a requirement before promotion. If you want to get promoted, go to school. If not, stay where you are and let your peers pass you. <br />A SSG with 2Y TIG who does not have ALC is simply spinning his/her wheels, and making the backlog for required PME even worse for those that want to attend. SGM(P) Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:50:18 -0400 2024-07-24T09:50:18-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2024 12:03 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/who-is-looking-forward-to-the-brand-new-change-for-army-enlisted-promotions-coming-up-in-june-2024-for-the-ranks-of-sgt-msg?n=8890543&urlhash=8890543 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s an awful idea and we will have less than qualified NCO’s. I feel like it is a cost cutting measure and the entire NCO Corps will suffer for years to come, just my 2 cents MSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 19 Oct 2024 00:03:19 -0400 2024-10-19T00:03:19-04:00 2024-05-03T11:13:24-04:00