Who issues promotion orders for SGT?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 May 2018 14:54:50 -0400

Edit 2: This issue was resolved and we got the orders and she got pinned - 4 months ago.

This might be a stupid question - but we don't get a lot of Army junior enlisted at my unit so I haven't dealt with this in a long time. We just got a new SPC who got picked up for SGT on 1 May. But she hasn't been pinned yet. I am not in her operational chain - I talked to them they said she has no promotion orders from her last unit but she is getting paid as a SGT. Would our J1 have to issue orders or can we just pin her without them? We want to get her pinned tomorrow (she should have just done it on her way here in my opinion). I thought you could print orders off HRC but that seems to be just for SFC. I haven't heard back from our Army SEL yet and was going to check my stuff to see what I have from my SGT promotion. It seems if she's already getting paid then someone in her last unit must have issued orders and sent them to DFAS - she just doesn't have a copy. Our Army admin person is clearing so there's no one in J1 who can look any Army admin stuff up.

Edit: The unit we are in is a joint unit - on an Air Force base. We don't have S1 or BNs or BDEs. Just our J1 and our Army admin person is clearing. I just wanted to make sure if her last unit issued them before she PCSed but I doubt it. We may have to issue them. I just didn't want to double tap.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 10 at 2018 3:13 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Thu, 10 May 2018 15:13:41 -0400

That should be that service member's S-1 who does the orders. Those can be emailed to her as well. There might be a slight chance someone has already done that.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2018 3:46 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 May 2018 15:46:28 -0400

Also have her check OMPF. Mine were up loaded by my unit with out me submitting them to them

Response by SSG Dale London made May 10 at 2018 4:37 PM

SSG Dale London — Thu, 10 May 2018 16:37:45 -0400

You should not have to go to J1 for orders (they'll mess them up anyway). Try HHC or your parent BN S1/PAC - If her LES shows her as an E-5 it's a straightforward query of her digital 2-1 and both SGT and SSG promotion orders can be done at Battalion level. You have to go higher when you get to the DA selected promotions but E-5 and E-6 are done on points so no biggie.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2018 11:18 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 May 2018 23:18:44 -0400

Go to brigade s1 and they’ll take care of you

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 11 at 2018 10:55 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Fri, 11 May 2018 10:55:32 -0400

Your J1 needs to check with her old unit- if she made it- your J1 can cut the orders, and you can hold her ceremony.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made May 13 at 2018 8:16 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Sun, 13 May 2018 20:16:46 -0400

comes thru DA making cutoff score and thru personnel and down to company level

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2018 12:25 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 May 2018 12:25:14 -0400

Edit 2 - we got it figured out at our unit here. The last unit didn't get them done before she left. Honestly this could probably be deleted by admins.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2018 5:58 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 17:58:02 -0400

You can pull all SGT/SSG promotion orders from S-1 Net. HRC publishes these every month after the cutoffs are released and promotions are reconciled. You will need milsuite access and will have to log in with your CAC ID.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Jan 15 at 2020 12:18 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:18:28 -0500

Response by Amn Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2023 1:50 AM

Amn Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:50:12 -0500

It sounds like you have a new Soldier who has been selected for promotion to the rank of Sergeant, but has not yet been formally promoted or "pinned." In order for a Soldier to be promoted, they must first be issued promotion orders by their unit or higher headquarters. These orders will specify the effective date of the promotion, and will typically include any additional instructions or requirements for the Soldier.

In your case, it appears that the Soldier in question does not have a copy of her promotion orders, and her last unit has not issued any orders for her promotion. In this situation, it may be necessary for your unit to issue the promotion orders. However, it is important to ensure that all necessary approvals and processes have been completed before issuing the orders. It is also possible that the Soldier's promotion orders may have been issued by her last unit, and simply not received by her or your unit. In this case, it may be worth reaching out to the Soldier's last unit or higher headquarters to see if they have any information on the orders.

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