Who's counseled a soldier for failing an arms room inspection?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:44:43 -0400

Long story short I have a soldier he would go on leave. Before he went on leave he had an arm room inspection he only had two minor violations at the time two weeks later he does do another inspection now he has five majors and four minors. Who has had experience in this department?

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Jun 21 at 2015 3:55 PM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:55:09 -0400

While there is individual responsibility for the Soldier to do his duty, the leadership has to evaluate what is the root cause for these violations within the arms room.

What is the cause for the violations? Is it he does not know, has the knowledge but lacks the motivation to complete the tasks, or just does not care. Has he been trained?

While counseling is part of the fix, a good discussion could achieve the results you need, at least so that you have a better understanding of what is causing these violations. Regardless, I would do an event oriented counseling as well as some follow up assessments, and also include the incident(s) on the monthly performance counseling.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 21 at 2015 4:18 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:18:24 -0400

Did you get the checklist?

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2015 4:39 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:39:37 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member as my Unit Armorer, I can't get how in two weeks you can go from two minor violations to five majors and four minors? How does his alternate works? Because if he went on leave, with these violations, the alternate is suppose to work on fixing them too. That's why we have alternates, to back up our work. If he went on leave and didn't do a 100% inventory with his alternate and the Hand Receipt wasn't changed, that could be something. If the 702s weren't filled in his absence, that's not up to him. I would need more info to understand how he went from one extreme to another in just two weeks.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2015 8:58 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:58:59 -0400

As my unit armorer I dont see either how he can go from two minors to five majors four minors.

Unless the inspection came during change of command and the new commander had not signed all the appropriate mfr's yet or he was brand new and the previous armorer did not do anything (this happened to me when). Or possibly mislead by an xo or oic of the armsroom. I once had an xo tell me I could take the aa&e keys home and turn them in the next day (major fail) which I was counseled for.

You can get a copy of the physical security check list and this will give you detailed description of his discrepancies. If he is new, there are growing pains to squaring away a broken armsroom. I recommend finding out his side of the story but two weeks is ample time to fix any erros.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2015 1:47 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:47:57 -0400

Sorry for the long overdue response. Now that I got some clarification and found out what actually happened. The major violation was an easy fix, his numbers weren't matching his paperwork. The real root problem was from the initial inspection, when our CDR asked him about the 702, my soldier when explaining it why it wasn't up to him, the CDR took him as responding in an nonchalant attitude about it and furthermore, my PSG who use to be S2 NCOIC, says the CDR has an unusual nervous tick when it comes to pulls weapons out of the armory.

Luckily, we've found the right soldier to be the primary. He's in the last week of the course and we'll get him his pin in no time at all. My soldier will now be the alternate.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 2:22 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:22:17 -0400

Funny how things come full circle. So my soldier had the weight of the world on his shoulders with this arms room. However, once found what he was doing wrong or what everyone thought he was doing wrong, he tightened his boot straps and got the arms room squared away. Our key custodian, another fellow NCO in our platoon coupled with our All-source intelligence Warrant got together to have a flawless battalion arms room inspection. Long story short, our arms room out shined all the other companies [4] within the battalion. Because of the accomplishment, BN CDR gave my soldier an AAM for his work. Amazing how things come full circle and more importantly, all of this went down while I myself is on paternity leave, so proud of my soldier!!!!