Who should be the rater for a team leader?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:22:26 -0400

I'm looking for advise from senior leaders who right ncoers and understand the new rules from 2015. From what I understand about the new NCOER requirements the rater is to be of two ranks above the rated. My unit has my section sergeant who is one rank above me as my rater. When I ask about it they try to change the subject. My question is what is the right answer? I need the right answer why.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2017 9:31 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:31:07 -0400

What does the regulation state?? What AR should you be looking at? What DA Pam? Where is the rating chain published? Do you have a clear rating chain? Who approves the rating chain?

Response by SFC Matt Berry made Apr 22 at 2017 9:51 AM

SFC Matt Berry — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:51:15 -0400

Google "Army Publishing Directorate" and then check out AR 623-3 and DA Pam 623-3. Also, learn to use CTRL+F and CTRL+SHIFT+F.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 22 at 2017 10:00 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:00:44 -0400

Don't know about the Army, but I have written evaluations for those senior and junior to me. What matters is who signs the formal document entered into your service record. That was usually a commissioned officer that made minor revisions and then assumed ownership of it.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 22 at 2017 12:24 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:24:23 -0400

Funny story related to this. One shore duty command got a new CPO in charge of a group. Evaluations were due at his arrival and he was instructed to write them up. He explained it was not fair to his charges and do them. He did so and gave everyone a 4.0, a perfect score. His answer, "Anyone that can put up with this BS deserves a 4.0. We became immediate friends.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2017 12:59 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:59:20 -0400

I believe you have the rater and senior rater (SR) requirements mixed up. For E5-E7, the SR must be two grades above the rated NCO. For E8/9, the SR must simply be senior to the rated NCO.

With that being noted, no need to put too much stock in the rank of the rater or SR. As you know, it's the block check and SR comments that drives the strength of your evaluation.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2017 1:06 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:06:24 -0400

Here you go.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2017 6:57 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:57:04 -0400

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member when I was a company commander my team leaders were rated by their squad leaders, senior rated by their platoon sergeant, and back then they had reviewers so their reviewer was their platoon leader.