Why are there only 16 slots per class for ALC 25U?

SSG Aaron Marshall — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 05:29:41 -0400

I have been promotable since March 2017 and have contacted the school's branch at HRC almost every other week to try and get an ALC class date or see when the next available classes are. It seem that nothing is available until next year. Why only slot a limit of 16-20 SM per class?

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jun 30 at 2017 8:26 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 08:26:34 -0400

I don't have access to ATTRS any longer to confirm class size...But from when i ran a Division Schools program I can tell you many of the low density technical MOS had small class size due to a singly restriction in the pipe line.. say equipment, a lab needed, available instructors for one component of the course, security access to a needed component or place of training, housing, and many other reasons.

So first things first, While I low Pax count per "class" sometimes often a new class started weekly...Have you looked at ATTRS and confirmed the class schedule? Have you confirmed class size or is this all just what someone told you?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2017 10:46 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:46:16 -0400

I agree with what SGM Marquez said. In the technical MOS, it is typically going to be equipment limitation. As a 25B, when I went to ALC, we were limited to 20 because of the equipment. If we had more than 2 per team and tripled up, then someone would always be left watching rather than doing even in rotations. This reduced the effectiveness of learning and testing out. With the requirements for promotion to have the course, a lot more people will schedule sooner than later so if classes are filled up, you'll probably want to get slotted as soon as the new fiscal year starts, and then once done with ALC, start trying to get SLC scheduled as soon as you can. I had my ALC done as soon as I could after making E5.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2017 11:14 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:14:28 -0400

I am a 25U. From the time that I got my promotable status to the time that I went to ALC was almost two years. I have seen that there tends to be a backlog of NCOs that needs to go ALC so you just know that your turn will come. One thing the HRC SGM told us a few months ago was that soldiers could submit a 4187 in order to put you in a “short notice list”. As you probably already know, many soldier end up cancelling their class for some reason or another (emergencies, etc.). When this happens, HRC can start looking for potential soldiers to fill out the class. If this happens you might have only a few days to get ready and report to Fort Gordon.

And to answer your question, the classrooms can only hold so many people. Also know that 25U’s are not the only ones attending NCOES schools and quarters can only hold so many people. You have 25Bs, 25Us, 25C, and all the other Signal MOS in there. Additionally, the SLC students are there too.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2017 1:23 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:23:59 -0400

I just went through ALC after a 3 year wait. We were the last class with 32 students. Their funding got cut really bad and that was their excuse which makes sense. It just sucks. If you are close to Augusta or can get your unit to cut you orders they accept walk ons. phase 2 and 3 we were supposed to have 3 people show up for both of them, and no one did. So you can walk on pretty easy.