Why do some feel the need to shout about their religion?

2015-06-06T18:20:43-04:00

As of late I can't help but to see religion being screamed about the forums. That is great. I am proud you have the ability to do that but why do we some feel the need to shout how Awesome they are or to antagonize others for their perceived lack of faith. I just seems to me you want to feel persecuted. If you didn't care what others thought then why did you have to tell them in the first place?

I see so much lip service about it that it is reminds me of the pharisees. I remember something from my studies like "The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector." Man, I can't help but to think why crazy that is to see someone say they are more awesome than someone else.

I think Gandhi said it best when he said “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

In the words of another "If they get offended THEN TOUGH!"

Response by SSG Sean Thoman made Jun 6 at 2015 6:51 PM

2015-06-06T18:51:12-04:00

The rest of the parable was that the tax collector asked for mercy Luke 18:9-13. I like to remind my fellow Christians and those Sunday Morning 9AM to Noon Sunday Bible Thumping Christians as well, practice what you preach and leave the judging to God; setting the example is better than preaching the example you are not following. We all fall short of God's glory in God's eyes, therefore I just pray for people and that God forgives them. Next time you CPT Private RallyPoint Member encounter a the latter I mentioned, just ask them when condemning what the perceive as a persons lack of faith, if they remember this from the seminary they attended: " Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check." James 3:1-2 I love you just the same and I will pray for you.

Response by SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA made Jun 6 at 2015 6:52 PM

2015-06-06T18:52:14-04:00

I'm with you on this one CPT Private RallyPoint Member , I am a believer and a Christian, but I tend to agree with Matthew 6:5 and 6:6

There is no need to make a public scene about your faith or just to be seen as religious. Rather, do it in the quiet of your room, in other words, your faith is between you and your god.

If you feel the need to be amongst your fellow believers, go to a church, which is the appropriate place for demonstrations of faith.

Proselytizing is getting old and a bit too much in RP.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2015 6:53 PM

2015-06-06T18:53:26-04:00

The quick and easy (snarky) answer is "Insecurity".

But Christianity has as part of its core beliefs the urgent mission to go out and convert others-- as many as possible, as quickly as possible. They think they are offering us a chance to save our souls for eternal life, which is actually an act of compassion. From the point of view of a true-believing Christian, they are helping us out, doing us a huge favor... like reaching down to help someone clinging to the side of a cliff.

It is very difficult for them to comprehend how someone could turn away this "gift", or not see it for what it is. They may feel that their act has been treated with spite or contempt, so they get defensive. In their view, the gift of Christianity is so obvious and full of promise, only a spiteful person would turn it down.

They cannot comprehend how a lot of people in the world get along just fine without Christianity. We're perfectly happy, and in some cases I've met a lot of people who are actually *happier* without the burdens imposed on them by Christianity in particular or religion as a whole (or they adopt a different religion that they have found more meaningful).

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2015 7:00 PM

2015-06-06T19:00:10-04:00

Great query. Some people are excited by the love of God. Some folks find themselves preaching and not living. Those are the sad situations. My goal is to let people see the Christ in me. If they like what they see, they will come. :-)

Response by SPC Angel Guma made Jun 6 at 2015 7:08 PM

2015-06-06T19:08:45-04:00

they take it as a sign of being devoted.

Response by PO3 David Fries made Jun 6 at 2015 7:09 PM

2015-06-06T19:09:52-04:00

Do I remind people of the vocal minorities? How about painting everyone with the same brush?

Response by SGT John Wesley made Jun 6 at 2015 8:19 PM

2015-06-06T20:19:08-04:00

Amen CPT Private RallyPoint Member Amen

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 6 at 2015 8:27 PM

2015-06-06T20:27:19-04:00

Everybody has pride in something and for some it's their religion. Power them

Some people are proud and exuberant over, say, a blue braided cord or a certain black and gold tab, or crossed wig wags or a combat patch. Names have been omitted to protect the affectionately guilty. :-)

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2015 8:30 PM

2015-06-06T20:30:36-04:00

What about those who insist on shouting about their lack of religion?

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Jun 7 at 2015 10:20 AM

2015-06-07T10:20:16-04:00

CPT Private RallyPoint Member . I see a lot of posts both advocating and slamming religion and Christianity. I certainly do not start them but will occasionally enter them. There is so much passion about it because it gets to the heart of who we are, what we believe, our world view etc. That is for believers (of all faiths) and non believers too.

I have had good, positive discussions and I have had some not so good. Should I stand by when someone creates a thread of accusing Christians of supporting a child molester? Should I not respond to a thread where it is asked Does God Exist? I attempt to be non confrontational on them but when you grapple with such a volatile issue (for some) it can be difficult.

Christians are not commanded to keep their faith to themselves. They are told to spread the word as the apostles did. Is RP the right place to do it? Fair question. If RP is okay for transgendered hero worship is it okay for matter of faith? Faith is far more important to many who serve than LBGT issues.

Nice quote from Gandhi. He doesn't like Christians. Insert any other ethnic group in there and it wouldn't be nearly as well received.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2015 9:21 AM

2015-06-08T09:21:31-04:00

I'm atheist, with a complete lack of religion. There's NO WAY this applies to me, so I'm automatically better than all of those people, and therefor above even commenting here!

Seriously, I like to 'represent' not any creed or code, but myself, because to some of us, that's all we have, and it's not that bad. I behave like I do because I think I'm right, as do most people think their right. And I'm definitely not above misconceptions or misrepresentations that others commit. But I can honestly say there is a minimum of this, and outside of directly religious discussions, I have no religious comment. So, naturally, I instinctively resist other's attempt to inject their faith into a perceived unrelated conversation.

So, I shout my values because they're important to me, and I think they're relevant (hence the hypothetical shouting). Does this answer the question?

"If they get offended THEN TOUGH!" Love this. More of this.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Jun 30 at 2015 11:04 AM

2015-06-30T11:04:10-04:00

1LT Eric Rosa, Gandhi, was right, a lot of So called Christians act and behave more Anti-Christ by their refusal to practice the teachings of Jesus. These people judge and quote verses in the bible jumping from Old Testament to New Testament to justify their behavior and judgement, in doing this they fail the Teachings because they are driven by desire a form of lust to be win. This is kind of a short men syndrome, perhaps they are weak in their faith!