Why do they want my PEBD date changed?

2018-05-16T16:34:48-04:00

I joined the Army on 20100515. I did not complete my initial contract. That is another story for another time. I completed 2 months and 5 days. I came back into the Army again on 20150910. I signed another contract with retention and now my PEBD is being questioned, why? I was given my back dated time in service so my BASD reads 20150710. However my PEBD reads 20130910. Now retention wants me to go pay back 2 years of pay difference. Why is my PEBD different? Does it have to be changed? I also have a DA Form 1966/1 (Record of Military Processing) from MEPS where Section 18 block c. shows a pay entry date of 20130910. Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 16 at 2018 5:05 PM

2018-05-16T17:05:33-04:00

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2018 7:15 PM

2018-05-16T19:15:37-04:00

You're getting paid for having 2 years of service time when you didn't serve those 2 years.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2018 9:04 PM

2018-05-16T21:04:21-04:00

I can't say if your PEBD was calculated correctly, but there should be documentation to back this up. The form used to calculate and change your PEBD is a DD 1506. 42As (S1) compute the dates using formulas while finance (36Bs) processes the document.

Bottom line, when it comes to something as important as your pay they owe you a reason why it was calculated the way it was. I'd request that they go over the 1506 with you and explain it. Bring your first line supervisor as well.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 4:39 AM

2018-05-17T04:39:23-04:00

Your career counselor is required to calculate your pebd and basd as part of their job. Whether it is your career counselor, Finance, or retirements who calculate the state they will come to the same conclusion. Your career counselor does not want you to pay back 2 years of advances that you did not qualify for. They are simply finding the truth to your actual pebd. If you owe money, you may request to have your debt eliminated. It is much better to find out now when you would only owe a few thousand dollars then it is to find out when it's time to retire that you owe a few tens of thousands of dollars.
Your pebd is set out in Federal Regulations as to what counts as qualifying service for pay. Your career counselor cannot decide what they want to count or not count, or if they want to overlook or add service.
As for the MEPS they are known for frequently making mistakes, which is why career counselors have to recalculate these dates. It is possible, that you provided documents to your Maps that they did not upload to your ompf when they constructed your d a 1506. Your MEPS was required to upload all those documents and the 1506, however it is frequently not done. Make sure you provide your Career Counselor with any documentation not on your Iperms, and then thank them for catching the error before your $5,000 mistake turned into a $50,000 mistake.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 6:32 AM

2018-05-17T06:32:50-04:00

SGT you had a break in service, that’s why he gave you the two months. I went through something similar since I was reserves prior to active duty. Fortunately for me I didn’t have a break in service so my PEBD stayed the same, although my BASD changed....I did a lot of researching the regs...that is what I suggest to you.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 8:09 AM

2018-05-17T08:09:44-04:00

This is a relatively common situation.
In a nutshell, retention is correct - your break in service will cause an adjustment to both your PEBD and RYE date. This has ramifications to which pay column you fall into and may induce a significant debt.
However, whoever brought you back into the Army without making that adjustment at the time screwed up badly and needs to get a slap from their boss.
You don't have a lot of grounds for redress here, as the PEBD adjustment is squarely the correct personnel action here IAW DoD FMR 7A Para 0101 - 0102.

http://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/archive/07aarch/07a01.pdf

07a01.pdf

Response by SFC Greg Bruorton made May 17 at 2018 3:50 PM

2018-05-17T15:50:28-04:00

Ever considered using the dates of 15 May 2010 and 10 Sep 2015?