Posted on Mar 3, 2018
Why does being half deaf disqualify my service in the Navy if I want to be a doctor and won’t be placed in combat?
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My left ear is completely deaf but I have a BAHA (bone anchored hearing aid) that I wear to compensate and I want to be an otolaryngologist. I have been told that my hearing is a disqualification but I don’t understand as to why this is the case.
Posted 7 y ago
Responses: 27
Sailors at sea on ships are ALWAYS in combat. It's simply a matter of with whom. The greatest, and the most constant enemy is Mother Nature herself. She is an unforgiving, uncaring bitch, and will make you pay for any tiny mishap. Followed closely by Mr. Murphy. This is what pisses me off when sister service members laugh at Sailors from some imaginary high horse where they think Sailors don't face danger, or that we're somehow lesser because they're in a desert somewhere and we're not. Some of them, reading this, are going to roll their eyes and think to themselves 'this guy is nuts'. That's okay. Life at sea is outside their frame of reference. Then, of course, throw in ACTUAL combat....there's lots of ways to die at sea. When I was in, a shipmate lost his arm because he walked past a steam pipe that burst right when he was there, severing it.
You simply MUST be able to respond to any and all contingencies. I'm a Merchant Mariner. I broke my thumb once when a winch brake snapped it's lock and slammed it. They sent me home and didn't let me go back to work until it was fully healed. Why? You gotta be able to respond to any emergency. I could not have fought fires or flooding with a broken digit. Long story short, any impediment to becoming an instant firefighter, damage controlman, de-waterer or ancillary medical assistance is plenty of reason to stop you from going to sea. I know that sucks, and I hope you find some satisfactory outcome. That is, however, the cold, hard reality of it. That said, your decision to serve is admirable. Thank you.
LT Brad McInnis PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CWO3 Dennis M. PO1 Brian Austin PO3 Steven Sherrill
You simply MUST be able to respond to any and all contingencies. I'm a Merchant Mariner. I broke my thumb once when a winch brake snapped it's lock and slammed it. They sent me home and didn't let me go back to work until it was fully healed. Why? You gotta be able to respond to any emergency. I could not have fought fires or flooding with a broken digit. Long story short, any impediment to becoming an instant firefighter, damage controlman, de-waterer or ancillary medical assistance is plenty of reason to stop you from going to sea. I know that sucks, and I hope you find some satisfactory outcome. That is, however, the cold, hard reality of it. That said, your decision to serve is admirable. Thank you.
LT Brad McInnis PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CWO3 Dennis M. PO1 Brian Austin PO3 Steven Sherrill
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CWO3 (Join to see)
No argument here Greg. I've been on the bridge of an LPD taking 45-50 degree rolls at night. The LST didn't dodge the storm off Canary Islands and weren't so lucky. I had guys on that platform with AAV's and they strapped in the rack after re-dogging chains in hold for tracks. After that they were rolling in puke in berthing. The Blue side were standing watch.
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SN Greg Wright
CWO3 (Join to see) - Yep. Anyone that's suffered through that ETERNAL hang while a ship decides if she's gonna come back or not knows just what I'm talking about. And that's pretty much most Sailors and MEU Marines.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SN Greg Wright - Oh the Joys of Stowing the Aft Whip Antenna in High Rough Seas. CTM1 and Myself would Not Delegate that Danger. We Suited Up and Took Care of Business.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SN Greg Wright - All the Bells, Whistles, Words Passed on the 1MC and a Hearing Impaired CT is Unfortunately Useless.
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So I gave you the tough love in my one response. Now let me try to bolster you some.
Your decision to put yourself on the line for the rest of us is both humbling and admirable. Young men and women like you are what's going to keep America alive going forward. It may be that you can't ever go to sea in the Navy (which I'm not 100% sure of), but I am POSITIVE there are positions available for you across the 7 (Yes, there ARE 7) uniformed services. So my suggestion is that you look into them all, and don't let a let down or two discourage you. NOAA and NHS are NOT combat services, and likely have much less stringent requirements. But even then, I would still talk to USCG, USAF, USA, USMC recruiters. I firmly believe you can find a place for yourself if you want to.
Your decision to put yourself on the line for the rest of us is both humbling and admirable. Young men and women like you are what's going to keep America alive going forward. It may be that you can't ever go to sea in the Navy (which I'm not 100% sure of), but I am POSITIVE there are positions available for you across the 7 (Yes, there ARE 7) uniformed services. So my suggestion is that you look into them all, and don't let a let down or two discourage you. NOAA and NHS are NOT combat services, and likely have much less stringent requirements. But even then, I would still talk to USCG, USAF, USA, USMC recruiters. I firmly believe you can find a place for yourself if you want to.
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SN Greg Wright
Caleb Henson - Department of Defense civilian. He means you could support the military by working as a civilian for the Department of Defense. DoD civilians go all over the world to support the military. Many of them are stationed overseas right alongside Soldiers/Sailors/Airmen/Marines.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Caleb Henson - each department has civilian staff. Those in department of the Army are DA Civilians. All are technically DoD Civilians. We even have federal service merchant mariners, known as CIVMARS that operate Military Sealift Command vessels. Many medical providers and support staff in treatment facilities are DoD civilians.
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What is your definition of "placed in combat?"
If you serve a board a Navy Ship, that ship may be deployed in theater. You may be in combat at any moment. Furthermore shipboard life is loud and dangerous in peacetime or war. If you cannot hear an in extremis warning, you may become a casualty. If you are non-deployable, then someone else has to pick up your slack.
If you serve in the Fleet Marine Force, Doctors are assigned down to the battalion level. You may be in combat at any moment. Furthermore field life is loud and dangerous in peacetime or war. If you cannot hear an in extremis warning, you may become a casualty. If you are non-deployable, then someone else has to pick up your slack.
Notice a trend.
If you serve a board a Navy Ship, that ship may be deployed in theater. You may be in combat at any moment. Furthermore shipboard life is loud and dangerous in peacetime or war. If you cannot hear an in extremis warning, you may become a casualty. If you are non-deployable, then someone else has to pick up your slack.
If you serve in the Fleet Marine Force, Doctors are assigned down to the battalion level. You may be in combat at any moment. Furthermore field life is loud and dangerous in peacetime or war. If you cannot hear an in extremis warning, you may become a casualty. If you are non-deployable, then someone else has to pick up your slack.
Notice a trend.
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SN Greg Wright
Maj John Bell - I hate to upvote you for this, Major, because you're right. But the kid needs truth and reality, and you're giving it, because you're dead on.
Caleb Henson See my responses to you as well, please. Don't give up hope.
Caleb Henson See my responses to you as well, please. Don't give up hope.
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Maj John Bell
Caleb Henson - The fact that you want to serve so badly is admirable. But one of the first lessons of the military:
The mission comes first.
The unit comes second, and
The individual comes third, and that always means every other individual before yourself.
Finally, the military is not good at handling exceptions. There is too much at stake.
SN Greg Wright is dead on, there are still ways, everybit as important for youto serve your country and community, for that matter the world as a doctor. If I had to do it over again... I'd probably have been a medical practitioner (perhaps infectious disease specialist) and cut my teeth in "Doctors Without Borders" or some similar organization trying to improve the lot of the people in the third world.
The mission comes first.
The unit comes second, and
The individual comes third, and that always means every other individual before yourself.
Finally, the military is not good at handling exceptions. There is too much at stake.
SN Greg Wright is dead on, there are still ways, everybit as important for youto serve your country and community, for that matter the world as a doctor. If I had to do it over again... I'd probably have been a medical practitioner (perhaps infectious disease specialist) and cut my teeth in "Doctors Without Borders" or some similar organization trying to improve the lot of the people in the third world.
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