Why does it seem like American soil is becoming alarmingly more dangerous for servicemembers?

2015-10-09T10:15:09-04:00

http://news.yahoo.com/us-airman-stabbed-months-thwarting-french-train-attack-074820735.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb#

US airman stabbed months after thwarting French train attack

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Airman 1st Class Spencer Stone, hailed as a hero after he was severely cut while helping stop a terror attack on a French train in August, was repeatedly stabbed in what police said was an alcohol-fueled, late-night brawl in a Sacramento nightclub district.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Oct 9 at 2015 10:17 AM

2015-10-09T10:17:13-04:00

First of all it's more dangerous for everyone. We are soft targets and are afraid to confront people in our own country. We feel safe and we forget to keep our head on a swivel and know what is going on around us.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 10:18 AM

2015-10-09T10:18:13-04:00

I am not sure about that...I think A1C Stone was in a place he didn't need to be at a time of night he didn't need to be out there. I do not believe he was targeted in this incident.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 10:37 AM

2015-10-09T10:37:44-04:00

A1C Stone looks like he was somewhere he ought not be, and was an active player in that fracas. He should have had a wingman, too.
I don't think he was targeted for being military. Looks like a typical late-night gong show that happens near closing time pretty much everywhere.
I'm sure his Chain-of-Command will have input for him when he recovers.
Thankfully, it looks like he will be OK.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 10:54 AM

2015-10-09T10:54:00-04:00

I think I need to reserve judgment about this one until I know what really happened. I have a feeling Airman Stone was drinking. That obviously doesn't excuse someone stabbing him and also doesn't indicate who started the altercation. I hope it isn't deemed to be something he instigated though.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 10:56 AM

2015-10-09T10:56:40-04:00

Well ... because we as American are at sleep. We don't realize that enemies now is not the same enemies we face back in WW2. The enemies don't really care about conquering your land, although they do, but their primary goal is to kill us all.

Response by SrA Jonathan Carbonaro made Oct 9 at 2015 11:03 AM

2015-10-09T11:03:17-04:00

We need to stop treating America like its any safer then being anywhere else. I don't advertise my service, I don't wear my uniform in public. When I leave my house, I'm carrying a firearm and a knife. When I leave the local town I have a rifle with me.
In the Case of Staff Sergeant Select Stone (can't believe I just typed that) he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Their are parts of town you don't go into, when you violate that you get into trouble. He is very lucky to be alive. I don't think he was targeted.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 11:23 AM

2015-10-09T11:23:27-04:00

Kinda weird what is going on with these guys. One stabbed, the other, his college was that of OK that was just involved in the mass shootings. This isn't a coincidence. SPC Bruce Nichols

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 9:09 AM

2015-10-10T09:09:39-04:00

It seems like more and more, the war on terror is knocking on our front doors, at home. With many of us deployed, our families are the ones who are now faced with what is happening at home. Protect yourselves, brothers and sisters, and those you love. It is up to us to counter these threats before it is to late.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-10-13T13:26:28-04:00

I agree with many of the responses about Airman Stone being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He most likely wasn't targeted for being military, however, we as a military are trained to see things in a way most would not recognize. I have always had the fear of the day that the "Red Dawn" scenario comes to real life. As I think about it though, I remember how I am trained and how to react to such a scenario. More and more everyday, I talk to my wife and teach her things that would help protect her in such a situation. I hope my comrades are doing that very thing with their families as well. Being prepared is the greatest asset to any conflict. Its not necessarily having enough guns and ammo to fight with, but rather the mindset and mental capacity to react accordingly. My family is all spread out over the East Coast and many having military background with skills in some form or another. Most important of all we have a plan. What to do and where to go. Some call us "preppers", that's fine, but at least we are prepared. When we leave for deployment, we prepare our families for the time we are gone and the worst case scenario. Terror isn't going away anytime soon, and I feel the worst is yet to come. Maybe, its time to step up the training with our family in order for them to prepared as well.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 13 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-10-13T13:26:59-04:00

Sensationalist media that focuses on fear mongering...

Response by CPO William Horniak made Oct 13 at 2015 3:23 PM

2015-10-13T15:23:52-04:00

Ladies and gentlemen,
Do any of you remember the part that says defend against all enemies foreign and "DOMESTIC". That means all of the enemies here in the United States including and by definition the ones in the United States that are deemed enemies by the government. From what I understand from the reading the gentlemen that were involved on the train were going to the area known for alcohol, women, dancing, and partying and if the words alcohol, women, dancing, partying are involved in the military it means someone's ego is going to get stepped on and a fight will ensue. As for the person spoken about in the nightclub brawl, I am sure he was sitting in the corner with a nice warm cup of coffee reading the bible, or not. Either way this is the second time he has been injured during a ruckus as well as one of his cohorts in savior on the train. Twice in two different areas of the world, definitely does not sound like coincidence, but does sound like someone looking for a way to get a medal in the states, but got beat down in the process.

Response by SSG Milton S. made Oct 13 at 2015 10:39 PM

2015-10-13T22:39:07-04:00

Everyone can makemake-believe that life is the same as it were when they left it, but it proves time and time again to be underestimated by all.

Response by MGySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 10:28 AM

2015-10-14T10:28:18-04:00

I have thought the same. I became alarmed when we started removing DoD decals from vehicles IOT to protect servicemembers and their families while not on base. Decals were instituted, among many other reasons, as an antiterrorism deterrent and now are being removed as an antiterrorism deterrent. When and how did we become the targets in our own country? Seems like we are just making it easier for the enemy to blend in and gain access then for us to be able to protect our fellow Americans.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 11:28 AM

2015-10-14T11:28:42-04:00

It is more dangerous for everyone really. Makes you stay hyper vigilant I guess.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 11:29 AM

2015-10-14T11:29:00-04:00

Have any of you looked at the statistics that show that US violent crime in every category is significantly lower in every category now compared to 1993?
Someone above said it - sensationalist media. Add to that all of the social media where the stories are spread around - true and untrue versions.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 14 at 2015 11:33 AM

2015-10-14T11:33:11-04:00

You need to address that it happened by a bar, which means that nothing has changed because bars have always been dangerous territory for service-members.

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Oct 14 at 2015 1:10 PM

2015-10-14T13:10:31-04:00

Just because a guy gets stabbed once doesn't mean anything. Stop fearmongering. A servicemember is no more a target than anyone else.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Oct 14 at 2015 4:17 PM

2015-10-14T16:17:58-04:00

Sp4 Byron Skinner,

Actually the treatment of US military now is pretty good, there are so few incidents that the actually make the national news. I true story, December 1966, I was at Letterman Med. Ctr. in San Francisco, amputee K Ward. I was given a 6 hour pass to just get off the ward and wonder around a bit in San Francisco. I walked over To Fisherman's Wraf, a tourist destination. Had dinner at Grotto #9, I was in uniform, Army Reg, for patients in the hospital. I started walking back to Letterman and was accosted by if I recall a mixed gender group of four of five college students types, who were obviously anti war and I guess they thought the war was may fault, after getting knocked down, kicked in the head I had a head wound that was still bandaged. lost left eye and cracked skull, the usual head wound, and ribs a few times, none broke but bruised, and a cup of soft drink dumped on me I guess that satisfied their anti war feelings and they left me laying on the side walk. People walked around me and one even kicked me again. I finally stood up a bit sore and blood on my uniform. No cab would pick me up I was to messy. I walked back to Letterman.
The good old days brothers and sisters.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 6:38 PM

2015-10-14T18:38:39-04:00

It might be because we have an enemy in our midst. There is a possibility that the stabbing and shooting at the college campus are linked to the airman's actions in France. But, there are automobile accidents everyday that result in death and injury but we don't see 24 hour reporting on car accidents, we get media coverage of shootings and whatever topic the media would like us to pay attention to.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Oct 14 at 2015 7:44 PM

2015-10-14T19:44:48-04:00

American soil has been unsafe for servicemembers for a long time. In the sixties and seventies we were warned to not wear our uniforms off base and having military decals on your car was begging to have in vandalized in many places. Many veterans avoided telling anyone that they had been in the military. After 9-11 were suddenly became popular for awhile but now it is reverting back.

Response by PO2 Jim Studrawa made Oct 16 at 2015 11:35 AM

2015-10-16T11:35:50-04:00

There are a million "sayings" that answer this question. speed of the leader, speed of the gang, lead by example, shit flows down hill. we have a president who exudes his extreme "prejudice by omission" everyday in every thing he doesn't say, it actually speaks volumes on what he thinks of peoples color, cops and GI's and Vets. his lack of oral conviction actually signals it is OK to riot. get rid of bad cops, just go ahead and do whatever cause its really not your fault.

Response by SGT Loren Hammons made Oct 30 at 2015 6:57 PM

2015-10-30T18:57:01-04:00

Because you have a President that is anti military and anti police creating a dangerous environment.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2016 11:29 PM

2016-01-12T23:29:38-05:00

Is there any data at all that suggests that US soil is in fact becoming "alarmingly" more dangerous to military personnel? I haven't seen anything on that, and the quoted article doesn't seem to suggest the attack was anything other than a typical barfight.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Jan 29 at 2016 3:20 PM

2016-01-29T15:20:11-05:00

Sp4 Byron Skinner. The civilian environment rite not is all cuddly, touchie feely, we love the military. Because of a very few unrelated incidents such as Airman Stone getting into a bar fight some are trying to connect the event with his heroic actions in France. There is no connection. In general the treatment of American service personal by the general public is very positive. You want to learn about hate and hostility look at 1964-1969, the picture yourself in attending college as a disabled Vietnam Veteran. The bitching about the VA, yea it could use some improving but a lot of it is because veterans are applying for benefits the haven't earned or the don't know how to follow instructions. The healthcare system is clogged up with over 65 Veterans with not service connected problems but have discovered that they can get free drugs from the VA, Medicare Don't offer that and a small pension because through some freak of nature they have managed to celebrate their 65th. birthday. I'm not of the conservative though that these freeloaders should be kicked out of the VA, but I think they could be better served in civilian medical facilities then at the VA and it free up space for the Wounded Combat Veterans that need a life time of treatment. So knock off the whining and bitching, you have it as good as its going to be right now, the VA after the wars stop will become just another budget issue and then you see the "Real VA", the Bush (43) administration for eight budgets skimmed form a billion to one.six bill out of VA healthcare in every one of those eight budgets, and then how Americans really feel about their military especially those who served in combat.