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Capt Michael Wilford
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Please understand, I am NOT bagging on the Army here, I am simply asking a question based on my own observations. I served two tours on two different Army posts and witnessed first hand how lower enlisted soldiers (PV1 through SPC) interacted with soldiers of higher rank (CPL through SSG) and I found their lack of respect and lack of discipline to be a bit disturbing. So, my deeper question is this; is this perceived problem of discipline due to the size of the Army as compared to the Marine Corps where we do not have this type of discipline issue, is it due to smaller unit cohesion, or is it something else? I am writing a white paper on military discipline and any information will be helpful. Remember, at the end of the day, we are one military with different missions toward the same end goal, so please do not use this thread as a means to bash other branches of service. I have not done that to the Army; I have great respect for the Army and for its mission and I am simply looking for others' observations about discipline.
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The Army has seen a degradation in discipline for some time now, unfortunately it's not limited to lower enlisted. I had E-7's who lacked discipline as well... The problem is the Army has catered to generational changes, instead of making them come up to our standards. I literally had an E4 tell me that just because I was a 1SG, that didn't make me better than him... The Marine Corps is much more disciplined as a branch-- throughout all career fields; that's something I've always respected about the USMC, and a large reason as to why they can do more with less resources.
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PO1 Joseph Collins
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CWO4 David M - With respect, I disagree. Yes, with a majority of NCO’SPO’s/Officers and enlisted being respectful and maintaining a professional distance from your subordinates is the standard in maintaining discipline, respect, and good order. However, during my career, the best superiors I worked with, were those who demonstrated mutual respect and common courtesy outside of the command. I am very fortunate to count among my friends a few high ranking officers. I was honored to be a guest in the home of one of my former Commanding Officers multiple time during my active duty and he even stood with me at my wedding. The difference is that, when I enlisted back in 1974, I was taught to ALWAYS respect the professional relationship between superior and subordinate, and to be mindful of the responsibilities of each. The superior is responsible for managing his division/department/command to best achieve the operational tasks assigned. The subordinate is responsible for carrying out the orders and directives given him, without question, to ensure the command meets those operational tasks and objectives. I have always been appreciative when my interactions with my superiors sometimes exceeded the professional relationship and became friendships as well. However, I was always mindful NOT to attempt to take advantage of those friendships, that my superiors had responsibilities a job to do and, regardless of any friendships between us, my job was to do what they say, without exception, If it was a nasty job and I was the best guy to do it I knew, and expected, to be assigned the task. And I knew that if I screwed up I expected to fully reap the repercussions of my actions. And, though I have now been retired for 26 years, whenever I talk to my former shipmates/friends, I still maintain that respect and professionalism in that, no matter how many times I’ve been told to address an officer by his first name, a majority of the time I still address them by their rank or position, such as “Admiral” or “NAV/ENG” or “Captain/Skipper”
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CW3 Dick McManus
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I made up the following questionnaire to weed out candidates who seek your endorsement, but who supported political views exemplified by the Trumpster and Qanon believers.
26 incidents of "unwanted sexual contact" by the Trumpster and 43 instances of inappropriate behavior were detailed in the book, All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator. https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12?fbclid=IwAR1h75H0hHZhlxGb4eDzmCOf4wYDB2svhBJ-PfPkoXoHm3JRiNiDGPjhmNc#jessica-leeds-1


Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, has told friends that President Donald Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known. Trump can't stand to hear the Truth! He lies, steals & cheats! He has 2000+ court cases awaiting him as a defendant! His dishonesty is the transactional nature of every relationship.


Where do you stand on these issues?
And of course, you and candidates should feel free to explain their answer(s). And even refusing to answer some questions may tell us a lot about the candidate.
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Do you believe we are will never run out of CHEAP oil and natural gas?

Do you believe scientists are wrong about global warming being a very serious threat and the cause is not man-made?

Do you believe the population growth is nothing to worry about?

Do you believe only three bullets were fired at President Kennedy and Lee Oswald fired all three?

Do you believe people have actually seen an alien being or a space ship (aka UFOs from out-space); notwithstanding that people have seen strange things/lights in the sky that are unexplained?

Do you believe that the US government has recovered parts of an alien out-space craft, that aliens brought technology to earth and that is the reason we humans now have it?

Do you believe human civilizations in the past gained advanced technologically that science has only discovered in the past 100 years?

Do you believe that Nikola Tesla invented unlimited, free energy and the energy producing, companies are keeping it secret?

Do you believe that people can somehow predict the future, communicate with dead people, and/or read other people's thoughts?

Do you believe that there may be real ghosts and demons that make people crazy, aka “demonic possessed”?

Do you believe that the US did not really land a man on the moon and/or 12 Americans did not really walked on the moon?

Do you believe our elections can be faked or hacked even if the exit polls results agree statistically with the election results?

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi did not publically speak up after she learned in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture?

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture?
Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a Congressional declaration for war and Obama doing drone attacks (aka a war on terrorism)?
Do you believe economic sanctions placed on other nations by presidents should require a Congressional declaration of war by sanctions?
Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional declaration to sell weapons to nations like Saudi Arabia given their war against Yemen and after they killed a US journalist?
Do you believe on 9/11 that all three of the World Trade Center buildings totally collapsed to ground level only due to airplanes and office fires?

Do you believe it is freedom of speech for corporations to give money to candidates?

Do you believe that the holocaust of the Jews did not happen?

Do you believe that our national income tax is unconstitutional?

Do you believe that low levels of fluoride used to prevent tooth decay in our drinking water, is poisoning people?

Do you believe vaccines cause autism?

Do you believe depleted uranium weapons used by the US military did not harm civilians during the wars and long after the wars end?

Do you agree we are in a war on science?

Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violates the order of our Governor for social distancing and etc?

Do you believe we need a new law authorizing the Secretary of Defense and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to protect the Congress and US Supreme Court Justices from a rioting mob if the President does not act?

Shouldn't we be asking every candidate these questions, even candidates for judge?

What other questions do suggest we should be asking?


My answers are all NO except for:

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi speak up publicly after she was briefed in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture. YES

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture? YES

Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a declaration for war by Congress or by Obama’s drone attacks, aka war on terrorism? YES
Do you believe economic sanctions placed on another nations by presidents need to require a declaration of war by sanctions by Congress? YES

Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional “declaration to sell weapons” to nations like Saudi Arabia due to their war against Yemen and after it killed a US journalist? YES

Do you agree we are in a war on science? YES
Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violate the orders of our Governor? YES

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Stay safe,
Richard McManus
Chief Warrant Officer-3/counterintelligence special agent (more like an FBI agent than CIA officer) and combat paramedic/LPN, Vietnam US Army retired, BS psychology and nursing, ,former 911 telephone guy Seattle police department and King County Police officer, Everett, WA
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
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CW3 Dick McManus - ROTFLMAO...
A) Trump, Star of Celebrity Apprentice, shot entirely on location in Trump Tower, in New York City, was asked what he thought of Hollywood, at the end of a private tour:
--> "It's not like this in NYC... If you're a star in Hollywood, you can walk right up to a woman and grab her (by her private parts), nobody cares, everyone does it... I WOULDN'T DO THAT, MY WIFE WOULD KILL ME IF I DID! WE DON'T DO THAT IN NYC. TOUCHING A WOMAN IN THE 5 BURROUGHS WITHOUT HER PERMISSION WILL RESULT IN ARREST OF HOSPITALIZATION!" ... and Hollywood declared they would leave the U.S. if Trump was elected.
--> MEANWHILE: Joe Biden caught a nickname during his decades as a Senator... Joe "Hands"... because he like to grab women's body parts... but... he is soooo cool as he grabs them, eh?

B) Russian Collusion... Quid Pro Quo? Trump... as President... is AUTHORIZED by the Constitution... Article 2, Section 2: "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the SENATE, to MAKE TREATIES, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur..." THE PRESIDENT... AND ONLY THE PRESIDENT, OF ANY NATION, IS ALLOWED BY INTERNATIONAL LAW... TO NEGOTIATE AND SIGN (MAKE) TREATIES!!!
--> H.R. 4152 is that Treaty. WHAT DOES IT SAY THE PRESIDENT SHALL DO IF THEY SUSPECT SOMEONE IS INTERFERING WITH THAT TREATY? INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION... that was done... BY OBAMA!!!
--> Immediately after Ukraine sent a delegation to Obama to demand why Biden... VICE-President of the U.S. ...WITH ZERO POWER TO MAKE TEATIES, was allowed to IMPERSONATE THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT, AND 2/3 OF THE CONGRESS, TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM PROSECUTION, FOR BEING A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE BURISMA OIL CORPORATION, VOTING THRU HIS SON, BY PROXY... WHEN HE IS NEXT IN LINE FOR PRESIDENT...
--> AND HE EVEN ADMITTED SUCH, TO THE WORLD, ON U.S. TELEVISION, AS PLAYED DURING THE IMPEACHEMNT OF TRUMP!!!
Negotiation of a Treaty IS DONE WITH QUID PRO QUOS!!!
Trump demanding the results of the Investigation initiated by Obama was DEMANDED BY U.S. LAW !
Joe Biden did everything Trump was accused of... AND CONFESSED THAT HE DID SO...
BUT... he can be president, while Trump cannot?
Y'all need to pay attention to what is happening in Russian Elections... Putin is supreme Ruler of the Federation of Russia... while his opponent is IN JAIL FOR DARING TO RUN AGAINST PUTIN!!!
Biden is President because... imo... y'all PREFER Criminal Serial Rapists (like Bill Clinton), and serial Criminals... over honest citizens...
which is why... you don't even see that you no longer have the freedom of Democracy, and haven't since Clinton DICTATED our presence UNDER the 164 Nations of the NOT FREE WORLD!!!
That we celebrate our DEPENDENCE on the Crowns of the World... BY LAW.. on July 4th.
That we the people are unemployed, and homeless, by law... to support the Criminal Aliens INVADERS who are flooding into our Nation DESPITE ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION FOUR'S DEMANDS: "The United States SHALL GUARANTEE to EVERY STATE in this Union a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT, and SHALL PROTECT EACH of them AGAINST INVASION; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE."

C) Biden is President because the ELECTOR VOTES were counted AS COMMANDED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURES... NOT AS COMMANDED BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!
election fixing by decree of the elected... not we the people >(
--> In THIS Republic... we Vote for the Leader of this Republic, AS A DEMOCRATTICALLY REPRESENTED NATION... AND THE ELECTED OF THE STATES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO JACK THAT VOTE AS THEY COMMAND >(
--> EACH Elector Vote is SUPPOSED to be a Vote that Represents the Majority Vote of the Represented District of that Elector.
--> That Elector is SUPPOSED to Vote for the Person who received the most Votes in THEIR REPRESENTED DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT... NOT FOR THE PERSON WHO RECEIVED THE POPULAR VOTE OF THESTATE>(
--> ONLY... Maine and Nebraska cast their Elector Votes as required by U.S. LAW.
--> ONLY the Citizens of Maine and Nebraska enjoyed the Free Democracy of having their Votes counted as they Voted... THE REST OF U.S. WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR BIDEN... ENOYED WATCHING THEIR VOTE GET CAST FOR BIDEN >(
--> THE CORRECT ELECTOR VOTE COUNT SAYS TRUMP WON BY A LANDSLIDE VOTE ... THE NATIONAL SOCIALISTS SAY BIDEN WON... BY ELECTION FIXING >(

D) What happened at the Capitol on Jan 6...an Insurrective Riot? ROTFLMBO... i WATCHED FROM START TO FINISH... thousands of U.S. Citizens standing around talking, and taking photos... until the Capitol Police stormed out of the Capitol Building smashing heads, throwing people off the 3rd story balcony, to die... AS THOSE POLICE RITED ALL OVER THE PEACEFUL ASSEMBLED TO WITNESS THE ELECTORAL VOTE COUNT >(
--> THE FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY WHEN U.S. CITIZENS WERE BANNED FROM WITNESSING THAT COUNT >(
--> Insurrection? Riot? HAVE YOU SEEN SEATTLE? PORTLAND? THE MAJOR CITIES IN YOUR STATE?
--> I live in Everett... 30 miles from Seattle... KSHAMA SAWANT... REPRESENTATIVE FRANK CHOPP... SENATOR PEDERSON... MAYOR DURKIN... GOVERNOR INSLEE, AND THE ENTIRE WASHINTON STATE CONGRESS ARE ALLOWING PUBLIC SERVANT TERRORISTS TO INCITE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS... JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE U.S. ....
THAT ... IS WHAT AN INSURRECTION LOOKS LIKE >(

IF... IF... WE THE PEOPLE EVER PULL OUR HEADS OUT OF OUR ..... AND INSURRECT AGAINST OUR TRAITORS...WE WILL COME ARMED AND ARMORED... AND THEY WILL BE DRAGGED OUT OF THEIR OFFICES TO HANG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD... FOR THEIR HIGH TREASON OF GIFTING AID ANDCOMFORT TO CHINA, AND EVERY OTHER ENEMY IN OUR HISTORY... BECAUSE... AS THEY SAY... NO OE ISABOVE THE LAW...
--> ESPECIALLY NOT OUR LAWMAKERS.

E) You sir... are a total moron...or an enemy of the United States of America... AS YOU COMMIT OPEN TREASON AGAINST WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... BY DEMANDING THAT WE MUST GET ON OUR KNEES TO OUR ENEMIES...
--> BECAUSE YOU DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL SOCIALIST FASCIST DICTATORS SAY SO?
--> FACT: THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL SOCIALIST FASCIST PARTY... IS THE PARTY OF HITLER!!!
GOOGLE IT!
AND THE ORIGIN OF "NAZI"? --> Contraction of THE GERMAN WORD FOR NATIONAL SOCIALISM!!!
GOOGLE IT >(
Then Sir... do please... GET THE $#@% OFF MY U.S. MILIARY VETERAN'S SITE YOU TRAITOROUS SON OF A ####### >(
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
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CW3 Dick McManus - Sorry Sir... I didn't answer the Questions. I shall omit those that are not relevant:
Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, has told friends that President Donald Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known. Trump can't stand to hear the Truth! He lies, steals & cheats! He has 2000+ court cases awaiting him as a defendant! His dishonesty is the transactional nature of every relationship.
--> NONE OF THE CRIMES TRUMP WAS ACCUSED OF WERE COMMITTED BY TRUMP... It is ALL rumor, hearsay, opinion, and FEAR!


Where do you stand on these issues?
And of course, you and candidates should feel free to explain their answer(s). And even refusing to answer some questions may tell us a lot about the candidate.
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Do you believe we are will never run out of CHEAP oil and natural gas?
--> I believe all those super tankers parked off our shores, and the pipelines spilling oil into our Rivers and Lakes... CREATE THE EXACT CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO MEET THIS BIBLICAL STATEMENT: The Rivers and Seas will BURN! AND... we don't need all that oil anymore... pardon me whilst I move the relevant question to here, from below:

--> Do you believe that Nikola Tesla invented unlimited, free energy and the energy producing, companies are keeping it secret?
--> YES! ... and NO!. Tesla created a SELF RENEWING/SUSTAINING Energy System. The Tesla ALTERNATING CURRENT GENERATOR SYSTEM THAT WE USE ON OUR AUTOS!
Nay Sayers say that violates the Laws of Energy... NOT in this case!
Tesla's system was not workable IN HIS TIME, but it CAN BE DONE TODAY!
... and Yes, I do believe the Oil Industry is suppressing it.
Why didn't Tesla's system work in his time? NO BATTERY strong enough.
Today... Tesla Motors has the Battery. All they need to do is connect the Alternator, and, just like our gas driver turbine engines in our autos, that alternator can keep that battery charged with electricity captured by that alternator. Captured? From where?
UNDER OUR FEET... IN ALL THAT FRICTIVE MAGMA HEAT CAUSED BY THAT MOON ABOVE OUR PLANET... THAT KEEPS THIS ELECTROMAGNETIC SELF SUSTAINING PLANETARY BATTERY CHARGED EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY SO LONG AS THAT MOON IS THERE!
--> And... there is a new style battery that holds 100 times the power, WITHOUT HEAT... that is 1/10th the size and weight of the Tesla battery.
--> Under those conditions... YES... we have a no cost freely renewable energy system is our grasp... but the Oil Barons still haven't polluted this planet enough yet >(

Do you believe scientists are wrong about global warming being a very serious threat and the cause is not man-made?
--> YES! While Pollution is a factor, ONLY China and India are still polluting this planet freely. Why global warming so fast? Physics. The meteor that blew up over Russia in 2015. The Spring Equinox is happening 3 days early, and the Fall Equinox 3 days late... nearly a week of extra Summer! And, reports say the North Pole is moving... ipso: so is the South Pole, AND THE EQUATOR! They are moving into sunshine... because this planet's surface is FLOATING ON LIQUID MAGMA! As the Poles melt to form new Poles, the surface is moving by centrifugal force to rebalance the flow of water from the Poles, into the Oceans. Throwing MONEY at this issue... is like throwing money at a compulsive gambler... useless.

Do you believe the population growth is nothing to worry about?

Do you believe only three bullets were fired at President Kennedy and Lee Oswald fired all three? NO... I believe, as Governor of Texas said: Kennedy was shot by the Secret Service Agent next to the car, Connolly was shot by Oswald.

Do you believe our elections can be faked or hacked even if the exit polls results agree statistically with the election results?
--> YES... as was done this election. Y'all say the Vote was counted correctly... it was ... UNTIL THEY GOT TO THE ELECTORAL VOTE COUNT! Not counted according to the Constitution... Article Two, Section1. State's Laws overruled the Constitution that cannot be overruled by State's Laws... to DICTATE that the Electors would cast their Votes for the person who received the majority of the popular vote of the STATE, while the Constitution says the Electors will cast their Votes for the Majority Vote of their REPRESENTED CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS!
--> As I count the ACTUAL District Votes... Trump won the FEDERAL ELECTORAL Vote by a LANDSLIDE!
--> AND ALL THOSE ELECTORAL VOTES FOR TRUMP WERE DIVERTED TO BIDEN AS DICTATED BY THE STATE'S LEGISLATURES >(
--> ELECTION FRAUD AND FIXING >(

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi did not publicly speak up after she learned in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture?
NO!... but I am very troubled that the Citizens of this Nation believe that ONE Representative can take the Power of the President away from the President, as well as ALL HIS U.S. CITIZEN RIGHTS IN U.S. LAW... and Impeach him for ... her FEAR >(

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture?
A) I believe YOU are WRONG for claiming the word "Democratic" IS A NOUN >(
--> It is an ADJECTIVE, that describes the use of Democracy... which our current crop of Servants ARE DENYING, as they GIFT our Nation to China, WHILE DEMANDING THAT CHINA IS THE ENEMY, AND NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW???

Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a Congressional declaration for war and Obama doing drone attacks (aka a war on terrorism)?
--> ARE YOU TROUBLED THAT SAUDI ARABIAN PRINCES BOARDED PLANES AS PILOTS, ON 9/11/2001, AND USED THOSE PLANES TO KILL OVER 3000 U.S. CITIZENS... WHILE U.S. SOLDIERS ARE DYING TO PROTECT THEM FROM THEIR ENEMIES?
--> ARE YOU TROUBLED THAT WE BOMBED HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI INTO DUST BECASUE JAPAN DID THE SAME THING TO U.S. ...
--> WHILE WE GIVE UP OUR LIVES FOR THE KINGS OF SAUDI ARABIA??

Do you believe economic sanctions placed on other nations by presidents should require a Congressional declaration of war by sanctions?
--> TREATY LAW ALLOWS SANCTIONS WITHOUT DECLARING WAR, FOR NON-COMPLIANCE ISSUES WITH THE TREATY... OR WE WOULD BE AT WAR WITH EVERY NATION ON THIS PLANET... RIGHT NOW >(

Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional declaration to sell weapons to nations like Saudi Arabia given their war against Yemen and after they killed a US journalist?
--> DO YOU BELIEVE OBAMA SHOULD HAVE OBTAINED CONGRESSIONAL PERMISSION TO SELL U.S. MILITARY WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION TO THE GANGSTERS OF MEXICO?
--> I DO >(

Do you believe on 9/11 that all three of the World Trade Center buildings totally collapsed to ground level only due to airplanes and office fires?
--> DOES IT $#@$%$# MATTER? SAUDI ATTACKED U.S. ... JUST LIKE JAPAN... AND WE DID NOTHING!!!

Do you believe it is freedom of speech for corporations to give money to candidates?
NO

Do you believe that the holocaust of the Jews did not happen?
--> YES! JEWS WERE KILLED... BUT NOT UNTIL THE "FINAL SOLUTION" TO EXTERMINATE THEM ALL, IN 1942.
--> THE HALOCAUST STARTED IN 1933... First out: Political Dissenters, and high criminals... Dachau was built for THEM.
Next: SENIOR CITIZENS, IMPOVERISHED! Buried Alive in mass graves.
Then: Physically and Mentally Disabled, LGBT, and Alcoholics: Euthanized
Over 6 million NON Jews killed with Fascist Hate.
Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps until the Final Solution which killed nearly 6 million...
--> The Holocaust was NOT just about Jews... IT WAS A CLEANSING.
--> Just like Covid. TARGETING Certain color and age groups. People dying when no one except the most weak and vulnerable should lose to this PNUEMONIA VIRUS! EVERYONE has been given the symptoms, and conditions Covid causes. The cure? STAY HOME AND DIE! ... WRONG ANSWER! WE HAVE A CURE FOR PNUEMONIA!!! REGARDLESS OF CAUSE! --> GOOGLE IT!
--> NO ONE SHOULD BE DYING... BUT ARE DYING FROM MIS-INFORMATION, DIS-INFORMATION, AND NO INFORMATION OTHER THAN, KEEP SOCIALLY DISTANT... WEAR A MASK... AND DIE >(

Do you believe that our national income tax is unconstitutional?
-->> YES!!! READ THE CONSTITUTION! Article One, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power: To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all * Duties, Imposts and Excises SHALL BE UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES;"
--> Tax the Poor... while legislating tax freedom for the rich... IS NOT UNIFORM TAXATION!!!

Do you believe we need a new law authorizing the Secretary of Defense and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to protect the Congress and US Supreme Court Justices from a rioting mob if the President does not act?
--> NO! The Congress already has the Capitol Police to protect them.
--> What happened on Jan 6 on Capitol Hill, D.C. ... was NOT A RIOT! It was a peaceable Assembly to redress our Government for Grievances... for most of those present... and it stayed peaceable UNTIL THE CAPITOL POLICE STARTED RIOTING ALL OVER THE HEADS OF THOSE HANGING OUR PEACEFULLY >(
... yeah, yeah... some not Trump supporters got involved and did things they should not... BUT IT DID NOT MEET THE LEAST OF CONDITIONS FOR A RIOT, OR AN INSURRECTION!
Want to se the effects of a riotous Insurrection? LOOK AT SEATTLE, PORTLAND, AND ALL THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL SOCIALIST STATES THAT ARE BEATING THE %$#@ OUT OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS WITH CRIMINALS >(
--> Kshama Sawant: "We are bringing you a new way of Life... a Socialist one" AND THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL ALL GET ON THEIR KNEES "TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS..." AND ACCEPT YOUR SERVANTS ARE NOW YOUR RULERS >(

What other questions do suggest we should be asking?
--> ONLY ONE: WHAT DOES THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SAY TREASON IS?
--> Article Three, Section 3: " Treason AGAINST THE UNITED STATES, shall consist ONLY in levying War against them, OR in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same OVERT ACT, or ON CONFESSION IN OPEN COURT."
Their signatures joining U.S. to the Dictators of WTO... on the Trade Deals that trade our Prosperous Blessings of Liberty to enemies of this Nation... on Deferred Action for Criminal Aliens, with Sanctuary from the Laws of the U.S. ...
ARE THE SIGNED CONFESSIONS OF OVERT HIGH TREASON AGAINST WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES... IN THE OPEN COURT OF THE WORLD!!!!

Really people... you NEED to read that Constitution... and ask yourself for each commanded item... "IS THIS HAPPENING AS WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND? OR IS IT HAPPENING IN DEFIANCE OF U.S.?"
The Answer should be readily apparent before you finish the Preamble...
--> THEY ARE CORRUPTING EVERY WORD... IN A VERY TREASONOUS WAY!!!
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It's more what part of the Army you're in. The Army is really more like several Armies under one banner. I've been in units where a PFC stands at parade rest for a SPC, and while in that unit witnessed another unit where a PFC showed up for a detail without a blouse or hat, and his NCO had to practically beg him to go get his stuff.

Why does this happen and why is the USMC different? Well the USMC is a brand. There's one single brand. The Army is a bunch of brands. The pride of a paratrooper is to the 82nd, or the 173rd, whatever unit they're from, not "The Army". So, units that have a long history of pride and service, tend to have a higher level of discipline.
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SPC John G
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Well stated Sergeant.
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SSG Richard Reavis
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Hey Sarge (SGT Carl Watson),
Thank you for your service but that being said, the short answer is "negative Will Rogers!"
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Capt Michael Wilford How does that MEU get around? But the reality under the current system is that you don't own that Air or even the support, it is the property of the Theater Commander. That is designed to eliminate most of the often stupid inter service rivalry's. So that MEU may land with Harriers and Ospreys, but once in theater, they will be controlled by the air boss.
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CW3 Dick McManus
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Well, it appears I need to share with you how to deal with difficult people. Learning to be a good leaders starts with being a good following and leading by example. Whey you get promoted you become a boss and yet we do not teach what words to use and not use . If you have a difficult subordinate, the key words are "You are expected to do such and such.." Then listen for the subordinate to say something or not say anything." If you get back-talk or irrational excuses, re-repeat..."You are expected to do such and ... What is the soldiers say "Fuck you as a reply.? You are expected not to say that to me." And again. You may have to re-say "You are expected not to say that to me." I would walk away and/or continue with what the hell I was doing before this conversation started. But I would make a written not to myself about his subordinate's back-talking. I would look for something his soldier does or did that was outstanding, and thank him/her.


The Science of Assertiveness theory -- aka folk knowledge (trial and error science)

Assertive (Leadership) behavior of humans: Builds relationships

Ask yourself, “Will the long-term affects be worse than any short-term discomfort I may feel if I am assertive in the first place?”

The word "NO", you may have to be repeated over and over, as in a broken record.

An angry and loud communication can be assertive if one is expressing feelings (Using the word "I", ( I am really goo damn anger at you ...)

vs. HOSTILE behavior-destroys a relationship: ... You dumb ass, didn't your mother teach you to report to work on time, etc. etc. Why, didn't you do such and such.... Normal people should do such and such without I have to tell you.

If someone has a habit of saying, "Why, don't you do such and such..." we all understand this to mean "I want you" to do such and such. There seems to be some kind of a taboo in our culture against people saying straight up, that we want.

On the use of the word YOU:

...the use of the word "you" is assertive when a person is acting in the role of boss, parent, or leader, for example, a law enforcer, a teacher, the chair of a meeting. For example, “YOU are expected to be recognized by the Chair before speaking at our meetings.” "You are expected to" (follow the rules, etc) , then every time the other person comes up with excuses, sob stories, etc, repeating this phase again and again ("You are expected to" (aka using the broken record shows the other person that you are not afraid to stand your ground and they need for them to rethink their poor behavior.

When someone asks you with a “WHY not? The assertive answer is not answering.


But remember being skeptically silent is assertive. Meaning, if I try to get in the last word.. will I get punched in the nose or some other bad result.

Speaking up in a group to speak is assertive because one is taking the "psychological space" of the whole group.


Hostile behavior: A person uses sarcasm and intimidation to get what they want. One may get what they want, but destroys the relationship afterwards.

It is easy to give up the benefits of hostile behavior when we value ourself enough to avoid getting agitated over minor issues and when I am imperfect and incorrect.

Non-assertive behavior: (shy behavior) doing nothing about unpleasant situations and simply try to ignore ones feelings and desires. While it may prevent conflicts with others, one probably will wind up feeling helpless, exploited, angry, and disappointed with one’s self.

For example, “I am sorry to bother you.” This is an example, of how being NICE sucks us into a non-assertive down-hill fall. vs. “I want to talk to you.” “ I need your help or I need or want to talk to you.”

or "It was nice talking to you." (when we didn't enjoy talking to someone).

Basic Assertive Rights:

The right to act in ways that promote my dignity and self-respect as long as others’ rights are not violated in the process.
The right to be treated with respect.
The right to say no and not feel guilty.
The right to experience and express feelings.
The right to take time to slow down and think.
The right to change my mind.
The right to ask for what I want.
The right to do less than I are humanly capable of doing.
The right to ask for information.
The right to make mistakes.
The right to feel good about myself.

Must I always assert my rights?
No, I am always free to choose not to assert myself, assuming that I am also willing to take the responsibility for whatever consequences may then occur.
Source: The Assertive Option by Patricia Jakubowski and Arthur J. Lange
and NO TRESPASSING by Barker and Barker.
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Lot of great responses here. If you are writing a white paper you will have to define your terms. Respect and discipline have very different meanings and they tend to differ between junior and senior enlisted ranks and even among officers and branch. Further each can be different in tactical or garrison environment.
Anecdotally, I have interacted with units who "look" undisciplined, but are extremely respectful and tactically proficient and others who walk the walk and salute the salute, but are tactically and technically garbage.
Is it a case of whole units not being disciplined/respectful or individual Soldiers not being disciplined/respectful? If it is a unit issue, you can't really blame the individuals because there is no expectation and accountability for respect and discipline. If it is a Soldier issue, one-off cases, then is could be a leader issue.
Disrespect and poor discipline thrive in environments where there is no accountability, so if we have a discipline and respect issue in the Army, it is simply because we have a leader problem.
I have heard senior leaders complain about discipline issues in their units, but when asked how many company grade ART15s they recommend, I get blank stares and excuses of not wanting to ruin a Soldiers' career. You can only yell at a rock so many times, it is our job as NCOs to enforce the standard, but sometimes it just easier to get stuff done if you cut them some "slack". The downside is slack starts becoming a culture.
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SPC Rodger Bell
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cut them slack when slack is needed
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SGT Rafael Morales
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Article 15´s do not follow you to another unit and maybe should be thrown in the garbage after a year of good behavior. That could be a change.
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SSG Richard Reavis
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SGT Rafael Morales - You are joking, right?
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CW3 Dick McManus
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I made up the following questionnaire to weed out candidates who seek your endorsement, but who supported political views exemplified by the Trumpster and Qanon believers.
26 incidents of "unwanted sexual contact" by the Trumpster and 43 instances of inappropriate behavior were detailed in the book, All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator. https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12?fbclid=IwAR1h75H0hHZhlxGb4eDzmCOf4wYDB2svhBJ-PfPkoXoHm3JRiNiDGPjhmNc#jessica-leeds-1


Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, has told friends that President Donald Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known. Trump can't stand to hear the Truth! He lies, steals & cheats! He has 2000+ court cases awaiting him as a defendant! His dishonesty is the transactional nature of every relationship.


Where do you stand on these issues?
And of course, you and candidates should feel free to explain their answer(s). And even refusing to answer some questions may tell us a lot about the candidate.
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Do you believe we are will never run out of CHEAP oil and natural gas?

Do you believe scientists are wrong about global warming being a very serious threat and the cause is not man-made?

Do you believe the population growth is nothing to worry about?

Do you believe only three bullets were fired at President Kennedy and Lee Oswald fired all three?

Do you believe people have actually seen an alien being or a space ship (aka UFOs from out-space); notwithstanding that people have seen strange things/lights in the sky that are unexplained?

Do you believe that the US government has recovered parts of an alien out-space craft, that aliens brought technology to earth and that is the reason we humans now have it?

Do you believe human civilizations in the past gained advanced technologically that science has only discovered in the past 100 years?

Do you believe that Nikola Tesla invented unlimited, free energy and the energy producing, companies are keeping it secret?

Do you believe that people can somehow predict the future, communicate with dead people, and/or read other people's thoughts?

Do you believe that there may be real ghosts and demons that make people crazy, aka “demonic possessed”?

Do you believe that the US did not really land a man on the moon and/or 12 Americans did not really walked on the moon?

Do you believe our elections can be faked or hacked even if the exit polls results agree statistically with the election results?

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi did not publically speak up after she learned in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture?

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture?
Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a Congressional declaration for war and Obama doing drone attacks (aka a war on terrorism)?
Do you believe economic sanctions placed on other nations by presidents should require a Congressional declaration of war by sanctions?
Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional declaration to sell weapons to nations like Saudi Arabia given their war against Yemen and after they killed a US journalist?
Do you believe on 9/11 that all three of the World Trade Center buildings totally collapsed to ground level only due to airplanes and office fires?

Do you believe it is freedom of speech for corporations to give money to candidates?

Do you believe that the holocaust of the Jews did not happen?

Do you believe that our national income tax is unconstitutional?

Do you believe that low levels of fluoride used to prevent tooth decay in our drinking water, is poisoning people?

Do you believe vaccines cause autism?

Do you believe depleted uranium weapons used by the US military did not harm civilians during the wars and long after the wars end?

Do you agree we are in a war on science?

Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violates the order of our Governor for social distancing and etc?

Do you believe we need a new law authorizing the Secretary of Defense and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to protect the Congress and US Supreme Court Justices from a rioting mob if the President does not act?

Shouldn't we be asking every candidate these questions, even candidates for judge?

What other questions do suggest we should be asking?


My answers are all NO except for:

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi speak up publicly after she was briefed in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture. YES

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture? YES

Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a declaration for war by Congress or by Obama’s drone attacks, aka war on terrorism? YES
Do you believe economic sanctions placed on another nations by presidents need to require a declaration of war by sanctions by Congress? YES

Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional “declaration to sell weapons” to nations like Saudi Arabia due to their war against Yemen and after it killed a US journalist? YES

Do you agree we are in a war on science? YES
Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violate the orders of our Governor? YES

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Stay safe,
Richard McManus
Chief Warrant Officer-3/counterintelligence special agent (more like an FBI agent than CIA officer) and combat paramedic/LPN, Vietnam US Army retired, BS psychology and nursing, ,former 911 telephone guy Seattle police department and King County Police officer, Everett, WA
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