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I have worked with all the services frequently during my career. I see the ups and downs in each service. The Army seems to have the biggest attitude towards itself though. I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love. Some may disagree this is true, but I do not think I am off base by stating this.

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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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I don't think it's a comparative lack of pride in so much as it's the way it's "focused."

In the Marine Corps, we are very focused at the "Corps level" when it comes to pride. Just being a Marine. We don't really have "Unit" or "Branch" pride in the same sense that the Army does. But Marines talk smack the same way the Army does. we have our "haters" but being a much smaller service, and being much more geographically isolated also limits that exposure greatly.

But back to the Army. I think the Army tends to be much more "diversive" when it comes to culture. Legs vs Airborne, Ranger vs Ranger Qualified, Cav vs whatever Cav goes against. Then you get into the Units themselves, each with their own DEEP history and traditions. And then Branches, which I really have a hard time wrapping my head around. All we really have is Ground vs Wing... and we still deploy as MAGTFs.

This is just an outsider looking in.
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PFC Rudi Watson
PFC Rudi Watson
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SPC Leland Keller - Engineers - "First In - Last Out".
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Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr
Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr
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Cpl David Rowland - EXACTLY...LIKE A CLOSE FAMILY!
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Sgt Jon Mcvay
Sgt Jon Mcvay
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I have met many different branches of service. All of which I have great admiration for all. But when it comes to the Marines( I am one) we work closest to the Navy. We don't have our own medical corp. No we have ties with the Navy. Our emblem stands for Ties with the nave the anchor and rope, world wide service the globe, and the best part is the Eagle which stands for service to this country the USA. We are called the Presidents own as well as some other things as well.
When I got out of boot camp I was told that people would look at me different by the presence I would show. On the way home we stopped at a restaurant and as I walked in everyone stopped what they were doing and looked right at me. That is a sense of Pride knowing that I out shined everyone else in there. Also I think its because not everyone can earn the Title Marine, and everyone that has knows that it's up to them to keep the honor of the Corps. We have a Song that is all about the Corps, Sam Sousa wrote the marching song( which to this day I hum when under pressure or angry). It calms me down and keeps me focused. I have been out of service( broken individual that I am) sense 1989, I still to this day make my bed first thing, get dressed and check my alignment shirt buttons in line with my zipper, belt buckle too. I don't talk S*** about other services as when the S*** hits the fan we are all in it together. Working to make this world a safer place to live for all.
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Sgt Paul Eck
Sgt Paul Eck
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As a prior service Marine that currently works with Army National Guard , I think that a lot has to do with the comparative lack of knowledge by many Army servicemembers about Army history. Ask virtually any Marine about the Battle of Belleau Wood or Tun Tavern and you'll learn more than you want. But I've found many Army Soldiers that don't even know the Army birthday - yet a lot will know the Marine Corps birthday through friends.
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GySgt Robin Boggs
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Marine boot camp is a transformation process. It may seem superficial, but Marines are EXPECTED to project a certain image when wearing the uniform; their success is reflected in their individual evaluations throughout their careers. Does this universal expectation exist in the Army, or is it up to the individual or the unit? I remember seeing a group of loud, chubby young women in BDUs hanging out and thinking to myself they would look just as at home in the ghetto except for the uniform. The transformation (basic training), the organization's expectations, and the image that the service members project all have a part in the input (recruits) and output of a particular branch of service. Maybe the Army just doesn't expect enough, so it's left to the individual soldier--some of whom are superstars.
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A1C Alexa Cosson
A1C Alexa Cosson
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It's called Esprit de Corps. It's pride in self, country, service. Anybody can have it. All should, regardless of the uniform! From an Airman, Semper Fi to my God, country and all who defend them!!
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LT Richard Mondak
LT Richard Mondak
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When you complete The Crucible and earn the E-G-A, only then are you permitted to proclaim, "I am a United States Marine".
Nothing makes me prouder than to see a good Marine in uniform and nothing sadder than a Marine who discredits himself and the Corps. Semper Fi.
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SPC Brent Turner
SPC Brent Turner
5 mo
Actually, you are not a Sailor just by joining the Navy and swearing in. Sailors are made in boot, just as Marines are. Our training is different, because our mission is different, but ask any old salt if someone who just joined the Navy yesterday is a Sailor, and the answer will be a resounding NO!
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SPC Michael Brink
SPC Michael Brink
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Same with the Army. We weren't called soldier until we completed BCT.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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We like to say we empower our Junior Enlisted, the USMC actually empowers theirs....why do we hold back the rank of CPL, while the USMC has it as a normal progression for them....are we scared to trust our subordinates? When is the last time you've trained with a Marine unit or been on a base, it is constant training - all day, whether combatives, weapons, shooting, more weapons......we have to remember what our task is, and when we get away from our mission which is to kill the enemy (not wearing fluffy socks)......
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Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr
Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr
3 mo
Sgt Jude Eschete - Thank You, I wasn't aware of this at all.
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Cpl Clinton Britt
Cpl Clinton Britt
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Cpl Earl Armstrong that part right there
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Sgt Jon Mcvay
Sgt Jon Mcvay
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I can remember Corporals E-4 doing Staff Sergeants E-6 jobs.
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CPL Linda Breen
CPL Linda Breen
1 mo
I like your post thank you
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