Why don't more Soldiers wear their full size medals?

2014-03-30T10:41:17-04:00

I have attended dozens of Army Balls thoughout the years. And one thing stands out to me. No one wears full size medals. Everyone to incude senior NCOs and officers are content to wear ribbons. You might have one or two people sporting medals, but they usually are very rare. Why is that? <br><br>Every time I see pictures of Marines in their Dress Blues more often then not they are sporting medals. No matter what rank. I have seen E-2s and E-3s sporting medals during their Balls. Are they "required" to have them? Is it something pushed down by their NCOs, that everyone with wear Medals?

Response by LT Jessica Kellogg made Mar 30 at 2014 11:02 AM

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Is it a branch thing?<div>The couple times I've gone to a Navy Ball, the prescribed uniform was miniature medals.</div>

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2014 11:41 AM

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I love wearing my medals. I get ribbed a bit, saying I look like a South American General, but I like the way it looks.

Response by SFC Aaron Calmes made Mar 30 at 2014 3:20 PM

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I would love to but I wear the Stay Bright badges. If I got them it would be the anodized and that would cost a fortune. Some are around $30 each. ($335 for the rack, just checked)

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2014 6:46 PM

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I don't know but I am going to buy some now you asked this question.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2014 7:48 PM

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But if I wear medals, people won't see my coveted ASR & NCOPDR!  How will people know I'm in the Army and have done some NCOES?!<br>

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2014 7:54 PM

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I don't want to have to take out a home equity loan to buy medals when I can spend $.35 on a ribbon.  Then again, the pictures here do look good.<div><br></div><div>As folks have noted, above, I would consider splurging for a special event.  I will get a new uniform and medals for my daughter's wedding.  </div>

Response by SPC Steven M. made Mar 30 at 2014 8:07 PM

2014-03-30T20:07:05-04:00

i always thought the service was supposed to provide the standard medal but when i was in i see that was not the case, i do believe it is a "service branch thing" because marines ALWAYS wear andonized and navy ALWAYS wears the mini medals - the poinnt of them - i have no damn clue lol ?

but i believe we dont wear in the army for cost reasons - i mean common i know in the 82nd airborne corps i was in - there was enough money having to be spent on maroon berets, jump boots- shining them , hair cuts every week, everyone was MANDATED to upgrade to service dress blues, forced charity- even tho i always donated more than the average nco would ... being a soldier does have a montly cost and to go out and spend 400 bucks on andonized medals that will slowly fade in color become used and worn just dont make sense ... comon now guys - when you have the money from your last paycheck and you are done with your service SPEND the money then and get a MILITARY DISPLAY CASE AND ANDONIZED MEDALS AND HANG IT ALL ON THE WALL !

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Mar 30 at 2014 9:27 PM

2014-03-30T21:27:12-04:00

Great Idea, Difference when I was in was Dress Uniform versus Full Dress Uniform. Dress Uniform was adepuate form most occasions and that was without medals but they only time required full dress was Important Enough Visiting Dignitary, I served on the Presidents Flag Ship USS Arkansas, If he dropped by for a visit and you were part of the welcoming committee it was full dress uniform.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2014 3:34 AM

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I wore full sized medals on my uniform once. It was ridiculously heavy. I guess I could wear them to more functions, but I have dress mess witht he min medals and usually opt to wear that instead for formal functions. If I spent 350$ on the jacket, I am gonna get the milage out of it, lol. For the full sized medals, I only had to buy a few extras that I didn't have (or couldn't find) and it still cost me a pretty penny.

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Mar 31 at 2014 7:32 PM

2014-03-31T19:32:07-04:00

Navy for Balls we normally wear Dinner Dress Uniforms, that is with miniature medals. If you do not want to wear Dinner dress, then Full Dress is optional.

The only time I have ever worn Large Medals was for Full Dress for Ceremonial occasions. And yes, all Ribbons and Medals are supplied by the Navy as an initial award of any decoration. I still have my first National Defense Medal (new ribbons on it in my shadow box with two bronze stars) along with every other Medal ever awarded. I also sprung for the Anodized Miniature Medals - YES Big Bucks, but they do look good on my Tux.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 1 at 2014 12:08 AM

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It's weird isn't it? I feel like I'm the only SSG who loves to sport them... Having said that, new awards are an EXPENSIVE prospect..

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 2:18 AM

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I always wear my full medals, and I am usually the ONLY one at the ENTIRE ball doing so. Honestly I think it's a cost issue - at least many people remark how expensive they are when I go. But I really don't care, if I'm going to wear my dress uniform, it should be DRESS. And to me, dress is full medals.

Response by SFC Kayla Sondrol made Apr 1 at 2014 1:07 PM

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I never even thought to wear full sized medals. But now that you mentioned it I would love to the next time I am at a formal function. However, I think the last time I did a rack builder with full sized anodized medals it came out to over 180 bucks. Now I see why people rather wear ribbons.

Response by SFC Stephen P. made Apr 1 at 2014 1:34 PM

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I have thought about it, but I actually prefer the look of just the ribbons.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2014 3:31 PM

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I had hoped that the ceremonial uniform coat use going to be our new service coat when there was talk of a new coat a few years back. I'd love to see a AF version of the USMC's Class A blue uniform; you know the iconic one that everyone imagines when you say Marine.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2014 2:00 PM

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I completely agree even when I came in straight out of basic I wondered the same thing, I would love to wear my Full Sized Medals as well

Response by SFC Arthur Barker made May 7 at 2014 6:31 PM

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After my first deployment I had a full-size medal rack made up. I've worn them three times in 10 years. I didn't like the clink-clink noise they made, but I still liked the look. I believe there are two reasons most Soldiers don't wear full-size: they are expensive to get professionally mounted; generally, Soldiers are too lazy to set up the medals on their own.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 7 at 2014 6:54 PM

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Lazy! Don't want to be bothered to do the maintenance to go out looking dressed to the Nines. I never did the Full Dress with Ribbons and "Medals" exept I think once for a Westpac Picture for Cruise Book but I concur it looks so sharp and so cool and I wish everybody would wear them more.

Response by SSgt Gregory Guina made May 7 at 2014 6:57 PM

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The Marine Corps Dress Blue 'A' uniform is the most senior uniform that we wear. It is comprised of medals on the left side and ribbons that do not have corresponding medals on the right side. The Dress Blue 'B' is ribbons and marksmenship badges on the left side. You should wear the most senior uniform when you sttend the ball however this is not always enforced though the majority do.

Response by CPT Jacob Swartout made May 7 at 2014 7:54 PM

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I have never bought the bracket to hold them. So I just continue to wear the ribbons instead. They look great but I just prefer not to wear them for reasons.

Response by TSgt Jaclyn Brittain made May 7 at 2014 10:56 PM

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Hope you are talking about your service dress and not blues shirt that would be stupid.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made May 8 at 2014 10:31 AM

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I try to wear them whenever it would be appropriate. Personally, I think they should be worn more often. I do understand the cost can be prohibitive...

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made May 8 at 2014 4:03 PM

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As far as I know, there is nothing in the Air Force Regs that allow for the wear of the full size medals.... we have our "service dress " (class A), and Mess Dress (formal). Service dress is ribbons, Mess Dress is mini medals. I would LOVE to wear the full size on something....probably cost prohibitive, but would be fun at least once!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2014 12:36 PM

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So, I think that the reason(s) no one put on full size medals is because of a few things,

1) They did know they could because all everyone talks about are ribbons.
2) Cost – Yes when you 1st start it is a lot of money to spend but my 1st Sqd Ldr told me his secret and that is that if you maintained your set cost is very low when you have to add a new one and now with 26yrs in I still do it like that. So my cost in very little.
3) Also people think you have to wear anodized medal and that is not true, Yes they look nice but at least for me I like the ones out of the box they have a lot more character. (note: I also do not use the one that was awarded to me I keep those in box and have them put in a safe place I buy a replacement to mount).
4) I own the Dress Mess and use miniature medal on that and again personal preference use ones sold at PX.
5) I know at balls I have attended when my troops have seen that set up they all say they wanted to do the same and a few have done it.

Response by COL Thomas F. made May 9 at 2014 1:07 PM

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Very interesting question. If you gander at AR 670-1, para 22-2a says "Commanders may require the wear of authorized awards on the follow occasions:" such as parades, reviews, funerals, social occasions, etc. para 22-7 references the PAM. Now, DA PAM 670-1, para 22-7(a), states that "all personnel may wear full-sized decorations and service medals on the service/dress uniform".

With that in mind, from when I was a private, I was always told that NCOs wear medals, and officers do not, except if part of a ceremonial unit like in a funeral or something. After 25+ years in, I would have to agree with the above, that maybe the biggest factor is money. Medals aren't cheap, and they cost to get them set up. On the other hand, most senior officers that I know wear the Dress Mess that have the mini-medals and therefore full size is not an issue. I hope I get an opportunity to wear my full size one day. Shame to have them just sitting in my drawer and not proudly display them.

Response by SSG Ed Mikus made May 9 at 2014 4:43 PM

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Im not AF, but i think everyone should be be allowed to have a uniform they may wear full sized medals on

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2014 9:48 PM

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I used to wear mine all the time when I was recruiting because there was this Marine recruiter that would try to sell the Marines based on a the uniform. Needless to say I made the young man shy away.
I would say the expense is what deters most people, especially if you buy the anodized ones. I'm too cheap for that so I polish mine. I also believe we should wear the belt with the uniform as you can see.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made May 10 at 2014 12:12 AM

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The plain truth is...I'd tip over to one side if I wore the medals and that wouldn't be right. Just kidding. The real truth of the matter is I got used to moving my ribbons from one uniform to the next (eg. dress blues to Class A's) and back again, that moving the full sized medals just took too long.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2014 7:26 PM

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Here are some reasons that I can think of:

1. Price of medals vs. ribbons, especially if they are the bright ones and preassembled.

2. More ribbons than medals so prefer them.

3. Not sure of regulations of how to wear medals vs. ribbons such as how high up, how long can they go, etc.

4. Weight. I know they can be heavy and well if you been around the block a bit you can be pretty decorated aka heavy.

5. Just always have worn ribbons why change?

I know I can relate with a few of these and I know a few of my Soldiers can too.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2014 7:44 PM

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Here is a "blue suiter's" view.

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-don-t-we-usaf-wear-full-sized-medals-on-any-of-our-uniforms

Why don't we (USAF) wear full-sized medals on any of our uniforms. | RallyPoint

The CSAF and CMSAF wear a ceremonial uniform with full-sized medals and so do the Honor Guard. Why not anyone else?I would love to wear my medals. AFI 36-2903 says I can wear them on my suit when I retire, but not on my uniform. SMH

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2014 1:31 PM

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as many have said probably the cost. I just checked on rack builder and it would cost me $204.20 for a set. How many times will I wear them? I have been to less than 10 functions in my career that would have been sutable for wearing them. So maybe I could wear them 3-5 more times before I retire. I just don't see it being worth it.

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made May 13 at 2014 12:24 AM

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We wear full size medals to our Marine ball because of what it symbolizes If you wear the big medals to often, it kinda demeans them. We don't wear our Blues that often.

Response by SSG Matt Murphy made May 13 at 2014 12:39 AM

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I Like miniature medals......but for Anzac Day Parades...go with the flow and wear full size medals as all Aussies do. But actually prefer other "decorations" hanging on me.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2014 4:40 AM

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This one is easy because they are friggin expensive. I have thought about doing it a couple of times but when I see a 250+ price tag I will stick with the standard ribbon rack.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2014 11:09 AM

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Frankly because they cost so much. Ribbons alone start at $3 and can cost as much as $10 if not more. Medals start at about $10 and go up from there.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2014 9:45 PM

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I wore full sized medals for my wedding and was complemented by a stranger who was a recently retired NCO.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2014 5:53 AM

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I've never worn full sized medals in my almost 16 year career and I'm kind of glad because I wouldn't want to mount them. But I've worn mini medals plenty enough to go out and get the mess dress and dinner dress uniforms. I usually attend four to five functions a year.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2014 11:30 PM

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I think we should be able to. I have even submitted a request through Airmen Powered by Innovation.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2014 3:07 PM

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yes

Response by PO2 Edward Shelton made Jul 29 at 2014 5:31 PM

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I prefer ribbons over medals, due to that medals cost a lot.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2014 6:13 PM

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I wouldn't mind wearing them. However yes you do run out of space rather quickly. I think many people are hesitant because of that and unlike the Marines, when they wear medals, ribbons that do not have a medal that has been struck for it, the Marines will wear them on the right side of the uniform with the unit awards in order of their precedence according to DoD. Also to save room, on their uniform they can take them to a shop and have them staggered. Like so:

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2014 2:50 PM

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While we're on this subject, what does the Old Guard do to their medals to make them look so straight. Do they have backers for the ribbon portion?

Response by SGM Mike Bachini made Aug 18 at 2014 3:27 AM

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Full size medals are great when worn to a military ball! Yes they are heavy, yes they jingle jangle but when put together right they bring out a level of "full military glory" that you just do not get when wearing ribbons. You wear ribbons to courts martial, ribbons to inspections, ribbons for payday activity. Your spouse or significant other only gets to see you when you are wearing the "grey digits" or with just your ribbons. Show them your shiny medals hanging from your jacket every once in a while.

As for being expensive, yes, they are a bit pricey. But everyone should have been issued a medal with their first award. Yes a lot of Soldiers do not get them through lack of stock or just plain old not knowing. Go into your supply rooms and and I guarentee that most of the medals you need are stuffed in a dusty box and the clerk keeps ordering more.

Being humble does not mean hiding what you have EARNED. If the Army says you have it, wear it to the big functions!

Shoot, Soldiers coming in the Army are already going to have at LEAST the GWOT and NDM. Even the SPC who cannot seem to get an award will get a GCM after three years. When the wars are over (and hopefully soon) first thing to go will be the combat patches, then in about 3-4 years most of the veterans. Be proud of what you have and learn how to set it up and wear it correctly, then DO IT!

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2014 5:17 AM

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My husband always wears his full size medals to 'bow tie' occasions. I think it looks sharp and quite impressive. I'm deployed right now but will try to find a picture, I think it is the best way to go when you wear your uniform on a dress occasion!
From what I can tell, Marines wear their medals and then on the other side will wear their ribbon only awards (where the Army puts unit awards). Just a different setup compared to the Army.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2014 10:34 PM

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They are too expensive. I like my ribbons anyway. I suppose if I had got them one at a time I would have been fine but it's too late now. And for the Marines, it is required at times. The Army doesn't see it that way. We make it optional.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 6 at 2014 6:32 PM

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Is there a certain time of day that they are allowed (after 1800)? I have a brain booboo so be gentle if I made an a$$ of myself.

Response by SSG Pete Fleming made Sep 6 at 2014 7:30 PM

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In conjunction to this question... would it be appropriate for a Veteran turned civilian to wear them... much like you used to see in the 'old' days...? (example the guy to the far left...)

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 7 at 2014 7:27 PM

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Most people who told me why they don't wear them say it's because of the hassle of switching back to ribbons (vice versa) according to the purpose for wear of the ASU (i.e. formal events and boards).
Personally, I wear medals at balls and most formals.

Response by SGM Mike Bachini made Sep 10 at 2014 1:12 AM

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Most of the time they will not force people to wear the medals become of the up front cost. Everyone in the army that gets a medal/award is issued the first one in a box. If soldiers just saved it, bought a special full size medal rack and just assembled as they went it wouldn't be an issue. That and comb through your battalions supply rooms, I guarantee that hey have boxes of medal sets collection dust. At least for the ARCOM, AAM, GCDM, GWOT, GOWTE. Maybe even nation defense and a few of the higher ones. I ran through two battalions supply shops to get medal sets for Soldiers and NCOs would wanted to wear the full
Sized medals. The resource is there, you just have to look for it. If they don't have it for free, consider it a very small price for living the part of the Army community. If
You re upped at least once you are a professional Soldier, become familiar and learn to enjoy the military only functions. I won't say it's our right but it is a privilege to
serve. (These comments are directed at the army, your post was lucky enough to get my response!). So your a professional Soldier, at this point you have bought into the lifestyle. Don't shirk going to any of the functions, balls, right arm nights, even frg meeting are important. The biggest thing that makes the army suck, and it does some of the time, is just dealing with the people in the army who don't want to be there.

Anyways
Long rant. Enjoy!

Response by SSG(P) Matthew Bisbee made Dec 24 at 2014 3:13 PM

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I had my original issue medals with my name engraved on the back mounted for less than $60 (I have 11 medals). The company did a great job. So price is not a factor if you wear the medals that were originally pinned on you.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2015 4:02 PM

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I never got mini-medals for my uniform when I was in the Navy (and was never told I needed them). When I was between my "A" School in Orlando and shipping up to Submarine school in Connecticut, I was tasked out to the Base First Lieutenant, which meant I did base Colors, Color Guards, and funeral details. I ALWAYS wore my full-sized medals (had 3 at the time and 2 of them were for marksmanship, lol). When I got married the first time (c'mon, we've all served, we know sometimes that shit just doesn't work out, lol), I wore full-sized medals and ribbons (it's a Navy thing). When I went to the 100th Anniversary Submarine Ball, I wore full-sized medals and ribbons. To me, the Navy Dress Blue Uniform aka "Cracker Jacks" don't look right with mini-medals.

Response by SPC Christopher Smith made Jan 14 at 2015 6:17 PM

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I'm not going to spend three checks for medals when I don't like wearing the dress uniform in the first place.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2015 5:31 AM

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Hey let's all get drunk and lose humility!

Full size should be worn, just not daily - daily.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2015 8:52 PM

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FYI, anodized medals are not authorized for wear in the Army. If that has changed, I will stand corrected.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Apr 13 at 2015 9:53 PM

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If I'm going to an occasion that would be appropriate for full sized medals (usually Balls or some such event), I'm likely going to wear my Mess Dress anyways, not my ASU/Dress Blue.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 13 at 2015 10:09 PM

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They clank

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made May 20 at 2015 12:01 AM

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They're expensive and they make a lot of noise. I'm trying to remember the last time I wore full medals, and I couldn't tell you. Many years before I left active duty.

Response by SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA made May 24 at 2015 2:49 AM

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cha-ching!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 3:46 PM

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Because the mini-medals were $250....

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 4:12 PM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member I read through the comments on here I'm going to look for prices on the awards I have which isn't many but if I am able to get the full sized I'll wear the my to my next dress inspection just to see the reaction and to the next event I think it would be amazing for myself and others

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2015 11:13 AM

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I would not wear them because of the weight, too heavy!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2015 7:39 AM

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I wore full-sized to a Veteran's Day concert; I must say I like the look.

Response by Cpl Clinton Britt made Nov 28 at 2015 7:28 PM

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I believe that they mean more to the junior ranks. After a while, for some, I'm sure it becomes more of a hastle

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2015 7:42 PM

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The Navy, USMC and Coast Guard seem to wear them frequently to formal functions, but not the Army or Air Force.

Response by MAJ Alvin B. made Nov 28 at 2015 10:58 PM

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True they are authorized for wear in the Class A. aside from The Navy and the Marines I never saw them worn on the Class A p, outside of the Old Guard inDC. Yes they are authorized and appropriate, however, they are also expensive and until relatively recently not available for purchase privately. I also,suspect the fact that each one had to be individually pinned to,the uniform made it easier to simply wear the ribbons.
Also, some badges would,not be visible if the medals were worn, as there is no alternative display option.
Given the above the ribbons offer the easiest option and permit all authorized badges to be worn as well.
I wore ribbons with my formal blues with bow tie and mini-medals with my Mess Dress.

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Dec 3 at 2015 1:17 PM

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1. It's very expensive to buy and mount what consists of a lot of medals. And, of course, as soon as you do all that, you get another one right in the middle of what you've already gotten mounted. 2. It's very noisy, if that gives you any idea how many of those things are awarded to service members nowadays. 3. In my opinion, again, in MY opinion, it's a little showboat-ish, for lack of a better term. It makes one look like a heavily-decorated war hero even when that may not be the case. Even if that is the case, it's what I'd call an overabundance of riches, especially from the point of view of first-termers.

Just like with ribbons, I elected to wear only the top row (three ribbons or five medals) on the rare occasion I actually trotted them out. Mini-medals are okay, but again, too many of those things is a little awkward for my liking. I was literally just thinking the other day when the last time I wore full medals was on active duty, and I really can't remember. I think it was either at the beginning of my Seabee battalion tour (2001-02) or perhaps even earlier during my first overseas tour in Japan (1996--98). Perhaps even on recruiting duty, 1998-2000. It's hard to say because the occasion to wear full medals is fairly uncommon and not one I took advantage of very often. My two cents.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2015 8:29 PM

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I don't do wear because I personally think ribbons present a sharper and more professional image. Wearing medals to me looks a little too Italian opera. And then there not wanting to be "that guy".

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2016 12:04 PM

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I've honestly never thought about it. Maybe I'll look into it.

Response by SP5 Joel O'Brien made Jan 5 at 2016 12:58 PM

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Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Aug 10 at 2016 7:51 PM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member Full size medals are a Marine thing, but they certainly respect my rack of ribbons at a Marine Ball!

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Sep 8 at 2016 2:53 PM

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In short: they're expensive and they're noisy. Mounting even a modest amount of medals is an increasingly cost-prohibitive endeavor. Minis are alright, but even those aren't cheap. As far as the anodized medals the USMC wears, I've never been a fan of those or anything that has that much 'bling' to it. Too flashy for my taste, but to each his own. I don't remember the last time I wore full medals. I think it was when I was in my Seabee battalion. That's like 15 years ago now.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Oct 11 at 2016 1:05 AM

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Notice the full size medals of these USAF Airmen from Hanscom AFB, MA in a parade In Boston, MA These Airmen are members of the Base's Patriot Honor Guard from Hanscom AFB.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Oct 11 at 2016 10:29 AM

2016-10-11T10:29:54-04:00

Because the damn things are heavy and pull your jacket off center, get caught on your wife's ball gown and are expensive to replace when they fall off and get stepped on, on the dance floor. But other than that they look cool.

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Mar 16 at 2017 2:20 PM

2017-03-16T14:20:16-04:00

Short answer: they're expensive to buy and mount, they're noisy when you move and on a personal note, they're a little to flashy for my liking. Ribbons are fine, even the top three alone.

Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Mar 20 at 2017 6:15 PM

2017-03-20T18:15:47-04:00

Full size medals can run hundreds of dollars depending on the size of the rack, even minnie medals can be pricey so ribbons for most is the way to go.

Response by SP5 Robert Ruck made Mar 20 at 2017 10:04 PM

2017-03-20T22:04:12-04:00

Great pictures of the medals on a dress uniform. Very classy.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Mar 20 at 2017 11:10 PM

2017-03-20T23:10:43-04:00

SFC Private RallyPoint Member Ah! You look like a young professional golfer! FLAT BELLIED!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2017 2:10 AM

2017-03-21T02:10:54-04:00

I wear medals as well to formal events. I always get a lot of great comments. The only time that I have seen others wear medals was an odd Audie Murphie ball that I was invited to.
The expense part is kind of invalid. Standard medals are about 10 bucks a piece, give or take. The problem is 1) education, as many do not know that they can actually wear them and 2) don't want to make the effort.
For myself, I bought mine early on in my career and the expense was minimal, and have added them over time. To buy them all at once would cost about 500 bucks. For those interested, medalsofamerica.com do great work and have fast turnaround time, and I highly recommend them.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Mar 21 at 2017 4:53 AM

2017-03-21T04:53:40-04:00

I wore my full sized medals... Only at military balls though... Payday activities I just wore my ribbons like everyone else

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Mar 21 at 2017 11:58 AM

2017-03-21T11:58:17-04:00

If I could fit into my Service Dress I would wear all full sized medals since I ordered a full set of medals from the National Archives since it is free for one set.

Response by SFC Giovanni Bennett made Apr 3 at 2017 8:05 AM

2017-04-03T08:05:38-04:00

I didn't read all the responses above but I am guessing the reason is because of the weight.

Response by 1SG Patrick Holmes made Dec 22 at 2017 4:24 PM

2017-12-22T16:24:07-05:00

Because thedamned things are heavy!!!

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 8:44 AM

2018-02-16T08:44:15-05:00

When I wear the four-in-hand necktie, I wear ribbons. When I wear the bow tie, I wear full-size medals.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 1:22 AM

2018-04-17T01:22:16-04:00

To address your question regarding Marines, they have an actual dress uniform, we don't. And what you're seeing is Dress Blue Alphas (blue jacket, medals, cat 1-3 badges and ribbons).
Since there is an offical uniform, that uniform can be called out as required with allowable substitutions. The other Dress Blue uniforms are:
Dress Blue Bravos uses blue jacket, ribbions and cat 1-3 & shooting badges.
Dress Blue Charlies L/S with tie/neck tab, ribbons and cat 1-3 bagdes.
Dress Blue Deltas is S/S with ribbons and cat 1-3 badges.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 17 at 2018 9:49 AM

2018-04-17T09:49:14-04:00

1. they are heavy. 2. you have to worry about getting them tangled. 3. You worry about losing appurtenances. 4- You look like a Mexican No War General, of a NK General . Normally for formal function I wear my mini- medals- much easier.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2018 12:07 AM

2018-06-14T00:07:30-04:00

Frankly, I don’t like how full sized medals look. To me, it screams “Central American dictator”. Others think they look great. More power to them. If told to, I’ll wear ‘em. If not, ribbons it is.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2018 4:22 PM

2018-08-13T16:22:57-04:00

Quick aside - I was one of the PAOs for this ceremony. The young PFC was so damned nervous but maintained his composure and bearing. Great kid!

Response by SFC Quinn Chastant made Aug 19 at 2018 6:00 PM

2018-08-19T18:00:27-04:00

Most functions I've attended where Dress Uniform was required the wear of the full size medals seemed to attact unwanted attention, more so when you don't want to steal the thunder from another individual being honored. I've only worn my minitures on a few occasions while in civilian dress and then they were secured afterwards. Perhaps, its also inregards to how after the Vietnam Era was viewed by much of civilian society that some of us choose not to be too obvious in Civilian events. Add that the joing Ladies and Men serving in our current conflicts need more recognition for their service than I do as there is now a greater disconnect from the wider society. Please by all means if you feel it proper to wear your medals do so. You earned the right. For myself, I'll stay out of the spot light and work behind the scenes where I am more comfortable.

Response by PO1 Steve Mitchell made Oct 30 at 2018 7:54 PM

2018-10-30T19:54:27-04:00

Never had the opportunity to wear my full medals on my Army Uniform. After 6 years in the Army, I joined the Navy and wore them a lot, go figure. Wearing Army issued medals on my Navy Uniform did get me a lot of questions

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2018 9:59 PM

2018-10-30T21:59:43-04:00

My 5 rows of ribbons say the same as the medals and am not being an attention whore

Response by SPC Trevor Benart made Oct 31 at 2018 8:05 AM

2018-10-31T08:05:55-04:00

Start as a young soldier. My SSG got me into wearing them,he came to the army from the marines. I only had 6 but they do look good. Paid over 120 for those but it's cheaper to get them as there earned.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2018 5:05 PM

2018-10-31T17:05:02-04:00

Because Full Size Stay Brite medals are expensive, that's why. My rack of 7 with oak leaf clusters and knots cost over $150 eight years ago.

Response by Sgt Jim Stephens made Nov 1 at 2018 9:37 AM

2018-11-01T09:37:37-04:00

Wearing medals in the USMC is usually an option, but in the waters I swam in, no one wanted to be outdone by anyone else, especially by abl "boot " (junior Marines).

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Nov 1 at 2018 9:59 AM

2018-11-01T09:59:23-04:00

One metal in clothing and sales cost like $5 and special medals range from $15 to $50 dollars online. I can see why people don't wear them but me I never wore my medals because I have a lot of awards and ribbons and I didn't want to look like Audie Murphy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2018 6:15 PM

2018-11-01T18:15:08-04:00

Because they are a pain in the butt to mount if you do it yourself; If you get additional awards requiring additional devices, they tear up the suspension ribbon (ribbon replacement is only a buck and change, medals usually start around ten to fifteen bucks); Unlike the sea services, there is no way to display ribbon only awards...
Mounted mine before I got married, but did not wear them as my wife thought my ribbon rack actually looked neater on my blues. So now they sit in a wooden cigar box along with the rest of my bling that I had at retirement.

Response by PO1 Mike Meehan made Nov 1 at 2018 7:36 PM

2018-11-01T19:36:55-04:00

In the USN and likely therefore the USMV also, Full Dress Uniforms REQUIRE full sized medals. It is part of the Uniform Regulations, and yes, it is pricey, but you should have all the medals you have been awarded so the cost is all in the mounting.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2018 8:12 PM

2018-11-01T20:12:08-04:00

Honestly, it looks better with a mandarin style collar shirt. That's why they do it and we don't. That and I think their regs call for it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2018 8:14 PM

2018-11-01T20:14:24-04:00

Another thing. I grew up in the airborne community so balls are the opportune time to show off skills badges. Generally, people go to show badges off but I'd they want to sport both, they wear the mess uniform.

Response by Capt Ron Lane made Nov 1 at 2018 8:35 PM

2018-11-01T20:35:36-04:00

Marines are not required to have metals. Dress Blues require metals on the left and ribbons awards that do not have a metal on the right.

Response by LCpl Jason Keiser made Nov 2 at 2018 4:43 AM

2018-11-02T04:43:07-04:00

It might be a cost issue by the army, but when a MARINE receives a citation for the medal, WE also receive the medal! ; It then becomes a requirment for our uniform!

Response by WO1 Mike Dwyer made Nov 2 at 2018 11:30 AM

2018-11-02T11:30:57-04:00

If it's a black tie or white tie ball, in the evening, everyone should be wearing miniatures not full sized. I never had a chance to wear miniatures when I was on active duty, but now, as a civilian, I get to wear them about once a year.

Response by Sgt Dan George made Nov 2 at 2018 11:45 PM

2018-11-02T23:45:11-04:00

If the CO says Medals, you wear Medals. If he says Ribbons and badges, you wear ribbons and badges. It’s all about the Uniformity in the Corps. Personal preference doesn’t play into it at a mandated function very much.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2018 10:59 AM

2018-11-03T10:59:38-04:00

As Marines, we have two different versions of the Dress Blue Uniform. Dress Blue Alphas are designated to be worn with full size medals, whereas bravos are worn with ribbons and badges

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2018 2:07 PM

2018-11-03T14:07:58-04:00

We believe that it best compliments the formal dress uniform and a Company will often go for uniformity. For one, the ball ceremony participants all wear the same uniform. I don’t want to say it’s tradition but for many it is. I did have a Capt tell the Unit once that everyone will wear Medals and don’t dare show up with anything else.

Response by LCDR Dave Dobis made Nov 3 at 2018 3:35 PM

2018-11-03T15:35:25-04:00

Been retired for a few years, so things may have changed. Having said that, the Navy had prescribed uniforms that specified ribbons, large medals, or small medals. The guess work was taken out of which to wear.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Nov 3 at 2018 9:52 PM

2018-11-03T21:52:40-04:00

The only real sure way for you to find out the answer is to go see your Marine Corps Recruiter. He will ensure that you have an opportunity to have all of your questions answered.

Response by CWO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2018 6:10 PM

2018-11-04T18:10:47-05:00

Happy early birthday, Marines. Wear your medals

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2018 9:39 PM

2018-11-04T21:39:11-05:00

Marines are recuired by P1020.34g to wear medals with dress blues jackets if the award has a corresponding medal

Response by SGT Ernest Huerta made Dec 4 at 2018 11:48 AM

2018-12-04T11:48:21-05:00

They get in the way. The bar ribbons look fine.

Response by Cpl Abraham Rios made Jan 3 at 2019 5:37 AM

2019-01-03T05:37:52-05:00

No it's not required for Marines to wear medals in their blues during a ball but I know I did it because it makes the uniform more elegant and sharp and because of pride of looking our best

Response by CW4 Don Kite made Jan 28 at 2019 11:58 AM

2019-01-28T11:58:48-05:00

I hear y'all saying "it a cost issue", it is my understanding that you are issued the first medal and replacements as needed. Those of you still on active duty go see your Supply Sergeant, they should be able to help you out and those that have left the service write the Department of Heraldry.

Response by CPT Larry Hudson made Feb 13 at 2019 3:17 PM

2019-02-13T15:17:31-05:00

To bulky miniatures look so much better if you have more than three

Response by CPT Robert Boshears made Mar 3 at 2019 12:39 PM

2019-03-03T12:39:49-05:00

They are very expensive and the foreign awards are almost impossible to get. When I asked for a DD-215, to combine dual services, I actually was awarded a medal from WW2... before I was born. It was those two darn Good Conduct Medals I never qualified for. A lot of us wear our top 3 and badges.

Response by SPC Jeffrey Stone made Mar 23 at 2019 11:32 PM

2019-03-23T23:32:11-04:00

A: they don’t wanna look like a North Korean general. Wearing the ribbons is more streamlined and classy.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2019 7:25 PM

2019-04-30T19:25:04-04:00

I have minis, fulls, and ribbons and I wear them depending on the formality of the occasion. I've got a short list of guidelines that I've worked out for myself:
Weddings - full size
Ball - depends on the size of the event and formality of the venue - (brigade and up is full, battalion is minis or ribbons dependent on venue, company is always ribbons)
formal Dining events - usually ribbons unless otherwise stipulated
promotion - ribbons
graduation - ribbons or minis, depending on the attire of the other guests
funeral - full size
change of command - usually ribbons for uniformity purposes
parades - usually ribbons for uniformity purposes
orchestral concerts - minis
memorial/veterans day - whatever I feel like depending on where I'm going that day.

Response by CW3 Ian Mains made Jul 17 at 2019 8:35 AM

2019-07-17T08:35:13-04:00

I did it once for a ball. It was cool and all for the novelty of doing it once, but I can honestly say from experience the two reasons I think more folks don't do it: time (effort) and money. It takes a lot of reading up on how/where/when they can be worn to get smart on it (which could be a reward unto itself depending on your mindset) and the suckers are just downright expensive. I believe when I did it (around 2002/2003) each full size ribbon cost me approximately $20. I don't recall specifically how many I sported (probably still have them all in my SWAG case somewhere) but guessing it cost me somewhere between $125 and $200 just to do it. This is on top of buying dress blues which weren't yet standard issue at the time.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Oct 29 at 2019 1:09 AM

2019-10-29T01:09:28-04:00

One reason is that there are few occasions to wear them. Another is the common misunderstanding that ribbons are the "correct" thing to wear when wearing your ASUs at a formal event whereas the Regs allow for miniature and full sized medals to be worn.

Response by SSG Danny Anderson made Feb 6 at 2020 8:07 AM

2020-02-06T08:07:54-05:00

The Army doesn't pride it as much as the Marines do. In the Marines some of their balls or formal do require dress blues with medals if the command specifies it. I have attended quite a few balls when commanders made it mandatory for all NCOs SNCOs and officers to wear full medals and junior Marines were given the option to wear either Medals or ribbons and badges. Medals especially the anodized ones are expensive to buy, but its worth the investment. Every year with the exception of officers, military enlisted men and women do get a clothing allowance so it is affordable to purchase all the the full sized medals you earned. That's how I was able to buy my full sized medals. I wore full size medals on my ASUs when i got married and I also wore them to a father and daughter dance. They do tend to start a conversations because you will draw some attention if you have quite a few of them.

Response by SSG Harper Peterson made Feb 15 at 2020 3:48 PM

2020-02-15T15:48:13-05:00

Marines must wear full sized medals with regular Dress Blues. The SNCO tuxedo style Blues (E6+) wear miniature medals.

Response by SSgt Ken Hollingsworth made Jun 12 at 2020 9:25 PM

2020-06-12T21:25:10-04:00

Part of the brand!

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2020 9:15 PM

2020-06-14T21:15:31-04:00

I actually once asked the Air Force Uniform Office (via email) which uniform combination Airmen are authorized to wear full sized medals with. They said "none." The exception is the USAF Honor Guard (and maybe the Band), but for the average Airman it's shadowbox or nothing for the full sized medals.

Response by LTC Russ Smith made Jun 14 at 2020 11:44 PM

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Response by Cpl Charles Trump made Oct 16 at 2020 12:21 AM

2020-10-16T00:21:52-04:00

Being it the Marine Corps ball. Chances are the uniform is blues. Usually full sized medals are worn. Things like ribbon only awards PUC, NUCS, CARS Or Combat Action Ribbons are worn to the right. Medals on the right.

Response by PO1 Sanford Snyder made Feb 16 at 2021 4:24 PM

2021-02-16T16:24:22-05:00

I find this question interesting. In the Navy, when I was in, when in full dress, you wear medals if your award has a medal. If your award does not have a medal , you wear the ribbons on your right side while wearing your medals on your left. Formal affairs requiring Medals, you wear them. Wearing ribbons only for a formal affair was never an option offered to us. Ribbons were for daily wear depending on the uniform of the day. I do have miniature medals, I wear them on my Prince Charlie when wearing my kilt to a formal affair when representing the Scottish American Military Society (SAMS).

Response by PO1 Don Uhrig made Aug 20 at 2021 10:55 PM

2021-08-20T22:55:05-04:00

Frankly, unless medals are dictated for a specific function (rare because of my following comments) I would only wear my rack of 14 medals and the associated stars implanted on them. Honest reason is the pure cost to have them professionally mounted. We're talking $100 plus just for the mounting not to mention the cost of the stars. Honestly, by year 18 it was a syndical laughing point to receive an award and my peers and I would all laugh "how much is your remounting up to now?"

So truly, unless it's a hyper important event, professionally set ribbons are sufficient. Don't judge. We service members do not get reimbursed for medals mounting. The uniform allowance does not take that into consideration.

Response by MSG Thomas Currie made Aug 22 at 2021 12:56 PM

2021-08-22T12:56:23-04:00

The simple fact is that the vast majority of enlisted soldiers don't even own a set of full size medals mounted for wear. Sure, you (usually) get handed the full size medal and the ribbon, but the issue medals are barely suitable for wear if you have just a single medal. If you have more than one medal, the issue medals are totally unsuitable for wearing on the uniform. You need to buy a set of professionally mounted medals if you want them to look right. (OK, yes, it may be possible to buy just the rack and mount them yourself, but generally that doesn't work nearly as well for medals as it does for ribbons.)

As several people have mentioned, cost is certainly a major factor. My own rack of professionally mounted full size medals (not anodized, because I prefer the look of the regular medals) would cost $297.64 plus tax and shipping - and that doesn't include one device that I would have to get elsewhere and install myself. A set of miniatures would be $179.22. Meanwhile my ribbon rack would be just $51.80 despite having three more ribbons that don't have medals. Which do you suppose I would have more occasions to wear?

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Aug 22 at 2021 1:13 PM

2021-08-22T13:13:52-04:00

Generally speaking, they are not required except for FULL DRESS times like Command Inspections, military balls, etc. I only had to wear full medals ONCE - in the Navy and never even saw anyone in the Army wear medals. Depending on you actual duty, it's more or less optional, but frankly, if your unit fell in with only ribbons, and you wore medals, well aside from looking different, you might be told to not wear them (uniformity).
SFC Private RallyPoint Member gives a great example of why, and under what circumstance it's not a bad idea to go "Full Dress."

Response by MAJ Michael Kammerer made Oct 8 at 2021 9:08 PM

2021-10-08T21:08:39-04:00

It was always “suggested” that we didn’t wear metals unless you were in Mess Dress.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 9 at 2021 1:47 AM

2021-10-09T01:47:10-04:00

Simple answer? EXPENSIVE!

Response by SSG Timothy Stevenson made Feb 21 at 2022 8:48 PM

2022-02-21T20:48:26-05:00

I was in for 20 years and forget the cost having been in from Panama through Afghanistan I have 18 full size medals and just the weight alone makes them unrealistic to wear. They look cool, just better in a box built by my soldiers when I retired. RLTW