Why is it that rioting seems to occur most often in Black communities?

CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D — Fri, 01 May 2015 14:07:13 -0400

Response by SGT James Elphick made May 1 at 2015 2:18 PM

SGT James Elphick — Fri, 01 May 2015 14:18:14 -0400

I'm just going to leave this here....
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html

White People Rioting for No Reason

All the times white people rioted for reasons other than legitimate grievances with our legal system.

Response by SFC Charles S. made May 1 at 2015 2:37 PM

SFC Charles S. — Fri, 01 May 2015 14:37:59 -0400

This Rioting looting problem isn't a racial issue... The Problem is Why the F... is anyone rioting... It's not an acceptable or lawful behavior. There are better ways to show disapproval and to initiate change without harming the community or other citizens.

Stop giving credence to unlawful behavior to anyone because it doesn't help our country.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made May 1 at 2015 2:38 PM

SGT Jeremiah B. — Fri, 01 May 2015 14:38:43 -0400

Anyone using raw numbers when discussing demographics is trying to manipulate you. There is absolutely nothing useful about raw numbers in this instance.

In this case, 414 deaths in 64% of the population vs 233 in 13%, so while whites outnumber blacks 6 to 1, the number of reported deaths is less than double. Also, 311 cases where race wasn't reported, but if we follow population percentages, that will inordinately impact the African-American community.

Response by CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D made May 1 at 2015 3:02 PM

CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D — Fri, 01 May 2015 15:02:54 -0400

Sorry to all I disrespect , I thought it would make an interesting discussion. I forgot about all the sports riots. My intentions were good I am far from a racist again I thought it would be an interesting discussion this coming from CNN and not FOX.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made May 1 at 2015 3:14 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Fri, 01 May 2015 15:14:17 -0400

A racially charged question if ever I heard one! However, the basic premise of the question, "that rioting occurs only in black communities" is just not true. In 2014 rioting occurred in the US, Africa, Ukraine, India, Venezuela, Bosnia and Herzegovina, France, Serbia, Israel, and Sri Lanka. In no way can it be said that all of these riots occurred in black communities. It would be better to ask why rioting occurs in poor communities? or why do riots occur at all? I would say that riots almost always occur where there is deep felt resentment or frustration which is often acerbated by poverty.

Most of us would agree that riots are highly complex events and are therefore difficult to breakdown without using a very broad brush. First, there is usually a starting incident, such as an accident, killing, or perceived injustice. Next, when people have gathered in a large group, for such things as speeches, funerals, rally's, moonlight vigil's or protest march's. The deep felt resentments, frustrations, and disappointments may then bubble to the surface. Individuals begin to feel that the group provides them with enough anonymity to overcome their usual reticence and/or moral scruples. At this point someone or something will incite or trigger the gathering to action and the riot begins.

The possible exception to this are "wild-ing" or "anarchistic" type riots where small groups or gangs form for the express purpose of causing destruction.

Response by Capt Ron Sherlock made May 1 at 2015 3:25 PM

Capt Ron Sherlock — Fri, 01 May 2015 15:25:06 -0400

Rioting is not limited to the black community as one of the other posters have pointed out in this thread i.e. Kentucky basketball fans got nasty after their team lost to Wisconsin recently. I think a better question is why did the residents of Ferguson MO and Baltimore Maryland rioted? I believe some of them were misinformed or closed minded to the facts that occurred in the deaths of the men by the police officer. Some were frustrated with their lives and economic status. Others saw this as an opportunity to destroy and steal. Outside agitators not from their communities were also there to stir up. trouble. And their communities were intentionally misled by bad evil leaders with agendas looking to take advantage of the situation fueling the flames.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made May 1 at 2015 4:09 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Fri, 01 May 2015 16:09:02 -0400

stupid is as stupid does.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2015 4:53 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 May 2015 16:53:34 -0400

I love posts like this because guess what we live in the United States and we all have the right to be offended! I love it when people of all colors, creeds, sexual persuasions, religions, and backgrounds get offended because we all seem to forget in this nation we have that right:) i wonder if kim jong un would tolerate this?

Response by MSgt Robert Pellam made May 1 at 2015 4:57 PM

MSgt Robert Pellam — Fri, 01 May 2015 16:57:45 -0400

I wasn't going to respond to this post at first. After reading the Chiefs edit down the page though and thinking on it I changed my mine.

This shouldn't be a conversation about who does and doesn't riot. This should be a conversation about why. While I won't go into the current case going on in Baltimore, I will go into examples and situations that dealt with it and other riots that have occurred.

First question we need to ask is Why. The simple answer is usually the easiest one to give, injustice, anger, hate, fear. But then we have to step into it deeper. What is making a person violent instead of communicating their emotion? Is there an applicable outlet for this emotion? Why is this emotion going unresolved? Who is listening?

See this is what the manipulative sources like networks and media feeds at. They push these unresolved emotions to the surface by designating triggers in their broadcasts to trigger these things. The Media outlets want you emotional so you keep paying attention to them as they feed you ideas and emotions and let you know where you can let them out.

But the Media is just one source. There are bad people out there who want riots to happen so they can gain. Its easy to take something or get rid of something if the Mob does it. And these people are not just the humans in the crowd wearing ski masks, some times these people wear suits and ties, or maybe religious garb. These master manipulators want something from you, and if they can get an emotional response from you then maybe they can get you to do something for them.

The response they get is what they want. Who would cut a fire hose of humans trying to protect your own neighborhood? Why would a hockey fan destroy a store when his team one?

Both reactions above of beyond logic, they are emotion based.

So the question should be asked. Who wants a riot? And why?

When we start looking at those factors then we can start a conversation where both sides to the conflict can sit down and actually communicate to each other.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made May 1 at 2015 5:49 PM

SPC David Hannaman — Fri, 01 May 2015 17:49:20 -0400

It doesn't. It occurs in communities with a high percentage of poor and uneducated people.

My mother in law lives walking distance from where the Rodney King Riots occurred... she is Hispanic, as are most of her neighbors.

The problem is a community that has lost hope. Poor, uneducated, and living in an area where criminals seem to have the most success. People loose hope... conditions of frustration, crime and self pity become the norm.

Then something happens that motivates action, but without an education that motivation has nowhere to go, so instead of the action being to move, or get an education and become a lawyer, or clean up the neighborhood so the police don't see it as a battle-zone, or run for office... instead they destroy their own community.

Rodney King Riots happened just a few miles from the expensive shops of Rodeo Drive... why wouldn't they loot them instead of stealing from the shop owners in their own community that sell them the necessities of life?

Lack of education.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2015 2:41 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 02 May 2015 02:41:22 -0400

This picture is exactly the damn problem. There should only be one statistic on it...

o Human Beings 1,111

Response by SSG Paul Lanciault made May 2 at 2015 11:20 AM

SSG Paul Lanciault — Sat, 02 May 2015 11:20:32 -0400

Regardless of which community it takes place in, its wrong. It may come from a lack of understanding, or education. Or a level of frustration with a situation. Riots, arson, stealing, in your own backyard and asking the world to show you some respect, now think about that for a minute. Is there a better way?

Response by Cpl Christian Jones made May 2 at 2015 12:07 PM

Cpl Christian Jones — Sat, 02 May 2015 12:07:47 -0400

These numbers don't reflect the ratio. About 64% of the U.S. population is white and 12% black, which means black people are killed About 5 times more than white people by LE.

Response by SGT Reuben Barrett made May 2 at 2015 9:40 PM

SGT Reuben Barrett — Sat, 02 May 2015 21:40:28 -0400

Note: CNN statistics of "Officers Charged"...

Where is the statistics for the "Officers NOT Charged" and the rate of persons Killed by the Police?

As well as the Statistics of Officers Killed by Perpetrators?

A partial review of the facts leads to inaccurate conclusions ...

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2017 10:45 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:45:25 -0400

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