Why is the "N" word against blacks bleeped out during radio shows but the "C" word against whites isn't?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:54:37 -0400

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Aug 14 at 2017 10:58 AM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:58:48 -0400

People censor themselves... otherwise the term is Nigger and cracker respectively... It is how people cuck themselves by having other people intimidate them about their language.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Aug 14 at 2017 10:59 AM

CAPT Kevin B. — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:59:25 -0400

Because there's a double standard in the left wing driven media. Think I need to go to a safe room now because something offended me. Have no idea what it was, but the media will tell me what and how I should feel.

BTW just got back from Europe refereeing soccer tournaments. These words are thrown around constantly, especially in the Great Britain games. Nobody has a problem with it until the tone and nature of the direction goes a certain way. Then it's time for me to pull the card out of the back pocket.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 11:13 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:13:30 -0400

I'd assume it has something to do with the double standard associated with the majority race not taking offense to derogatory names, because...they are the majority. There is absolutely NO oppression, negativity, death, or torment tied to that particular term coming from minorities, so they just simply don't care. Meanwhile, the other way around, the term used from the Majority toward the minority has a significant amount of historical meaning and hateful purpose in its use.

Regardless, I don't think either should be used, since neither lead toward a constructive conversation.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Aug 14 at 2017 11:16 AM

Cpl Jeff N. — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:16:20 -0400

Neither should be censored but polite people wouldn't use them as a pejorative to attack someone. Someone calling me a cracker would have zero impact.

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Aug 14 at 2017 11:19 AM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:19:48 -0400

Because standards are worthless unless you have Double standards, SO many folks get wrapped around words designed to set folks off, Call me Cracker all day long 24x7 and I will just laugh at you, shake my head and walk off to talk with someone with a brain.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 11:25 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:25:07 -0400

Perhaps it has to do with how people receive the word(s).

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 14 at 2017 11:30 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:30:35 -0400

Using these epithets to incite tells us more about the users of such language. Heck, I laugh at being called a cracker.

Response by SSgt Ryan Sylvester made Aug 14 at 2017 11:33 AM

SSgt Ryan Sylvester — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:33:56 -0400

Same reasoning why a woman's chest is blurred out on TV but a man's isn't. Why you can only use the F-bomb twice in a movie before it gets a mandatory R-rating. Why "damn" is fine, but "Goddamn" is a no-no. It's subjective morality, and typically subjective to those driving the dialogue.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 11:40 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:40:06 -0400

If we consider them to be vulgar, both should be censored. If not, neither. We sensor other vulgar language so the same rules should apply to these words. Who decides? I have no clue. I simply don't listen to people who use offensive language regardless of what it is.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Aug 14 at 2017 11:44 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:44:22 -0400

Both should be censored ethically. However the censoring should be at the discretion of the station.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Aug 14 at 2017 11:46 AM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:46:18 -0400

If you're going to censor one racial slur you should censor them all.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 14 at 2017 11:49 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:49:51 -0400

Political correctness is nothing more than an infringement of freedom of speech. Keep in mind that the Constitution only prohibits government from infringing on speech. If the popular culture wants to infringe on freedom of speech, it appears that is okay. However, when it does, it prevents us from knowing who the assholes really are. Thus, when American Nazis dress up like Hitler's minions, the KKK dons there bedsheets, foul-mouthed miscreants shout offensive language or flash offensive gestures, we know who they are and are put on notice to exclude them from polite company. When such language or behavior is suppressed, they are forced underground where they can do even more damage.

Response by PO1 Don Gulizia made Aug 14 at 2017 12:01 PM

PO1 Don Gulizia — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:01:52 -0400

I don't like the road censorship leads to...but I believe each private company should make their own decisions and deal with the consequences. With that said, I wish these words would disappear like other historical pejoratives. My grandfather was called Guinea, Wop, and Dago all the time. Me...never (outside of the occassional joke by a non-Italian family members). Why, because hardly anyone knows these words anymore. They are rarely in movies, they are not in any song lyrics, and not heard in normal conversation.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Aug 14 at 2017 12:03 PM

SGT Dave Tracy — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:03:01 -0400

As far as what radio decides to air with respect to racial terminology (and within decency standards on public airwaves)--and I would be speculating here--while I get that an insult is an insult, neither "cracker" nor "honky" or any number of white-centric epithets carry as much historic or cultural baggage as dropping the Big N.

Besides--and I can only reference my own experiences here--you're probably as likely if not more so to get a negative reaction dropping the Big N on a white guy as any other white epithet term.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Aug 14 at 2017 12:05 PM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:05:12 -0400

Neither should be used. In my mind there is only one way to take them...wrong. They were both initiated as slurs plain and simple. Personally, I don't care what you call me...I know who I am and what I stand for so words don't bother me. However, if you are going to use it don't be offended when it comes back on you. Another thing is when whites call each other c word or trash and blacks call each other the N word. Cut it out all together and call people by their name.
What bothers me more is how all curse words ($&!+, @$$, etc) are bleeped out on tv except GD (I HATE THAT WORD). My kid doesn't need to hear that on regular TV...save it for HBO etc.

Response by PFC Roger Goff made Aug 14 at 2017 12:17 PM

PFC Roger Goff — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:17:21 -0400

The words mean nothing without context. Political Correctness wants to tell us not to use these words. I hate Political Correctness. Having said that I think there are some words that just need to be phased out of our collective lexicon. I say that because they have outlived their usefulness. (If they ever had any usefulness is a debate for another post)

The only time I could see a need for these racial slurs is in the portrayal of historic events. Such as in the film "Birth of a Nation". The use of them in the film, to me anyway, added to the realism. (A great story, with a sad ending)

We need to be able as Americans to say anything short of threats to POTUS and the like. However we need to intelligently discern the proper use of inflammatory language. It may sound contradictory. But the responsible use of language is a sign of wisdom.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 12:20 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:20:38 -0400

C word ????

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Aug 14 at 2017 1:16 PM

SPC Kevin Ford — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:16:09 -0400

You can call me cracker all you want. I'll think its funny. It has no real negative emotional impact, present or historical. You might as well call me a wagon wheel. Go for it. If you mean it negatively that probably would say something about you but it has no real emotional impact on me other than to make me sad you are mad at me.

But you can be darn sure I won't be using the N word. That does have a very real negative emotional impact, both present and historical.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Aug 14 at 2017 1:17 PM

SPC Erich Guenther — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:17:15 -0400

And honestly the C word never bothered me, I actually think it is funny.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 1:49 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:49:30 -0400

Neither should be. Anybody with an ounce of decency wouldn't use N word - if they understand what it means and how it enrages the recipient. Same goes for Uncle Tom. If media repeats it when quoting others that's just a quote and adds to the shame of the loudmouth idiot using it with me. But that's just me, so others may see it differently. There's no term that comes to mind that would come close to making me as angry. Maybe liar would come the closest. The rest i.e. white trash, cracker, honky, redneck, mouth-breather or knuckle-dragger are just insults, or fact depending on the recipient. They are just superficial.

Response by SCPO Jason McLaughlin made Aug 14 at 2017 2:36 PM

SCPO Jason McLaughlin — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:36:42 -0400

Response by Maj John Bell made Aug 14 at 2017 3:37 PM

Maj John Bell — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:37:53 -0400

I do not care what label someone puts on me, what I care about is their intent. I've been called "friend" by people who enjoy my company. I've been called friend by people who are slipping the proverbial knife between my ribs. I like the first use, I don't like the last.

Response by SSgt Christopher Mortell made Aug 14 at 2017 4:44 PM

SSgt Christopher Mortell — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:44:27 -0400

I don't understand the vote. Cracker doesn't have the societal impact the "n" word does. Not as much baggage. Cracker has not been used as a word to subjugate me in any way so I basically don't care.

Response by SSgt Terry P. made Aug 14 at 2017 5:16 PM

SSgt Terry P. — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:16:59 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member I do not believe in censorship by media or government,but if any word is considered offensive to another individual,i do not use it.Self-censorship would be my choice.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Aug 14 at 2017 5:56 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:56:25 -0400

Depends on which N word and which C word we are talking about, because I have gotten into many an argument trying to explain to people that Negro and Caucasian are 2 sides of the same coin in that both are words originally designed to categorize your ancestry.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2017 6:13 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:13:06 -0400

Are any white ppl emotionally demoralized with the same degree of anguish as their black counterparts (when called the N word) when someone calls them the C word? I've never seen white ppl lose their minds and want to fight someone over the C word. Is this a joke? Have white ppl been subjugated to the same kinds racist practices that would have made the C word a weapon of oppression? In what country, because that surely hasn't happened in America! In any case, this C word vs the N word is hardly a fair or balanced comparison. Personally, I don't think either word should be censored. Ppl need to see and hear how UGLY they are and how the rest of the world sees them.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Aug 14 at 2017 6:32 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:32:58 -0400

It took me awhile to realize the"C" word was cracker. I thought it was conservative.

Response by Capt Dwayne Conyers made Aug 14 at 2017 8:35 PM

Capt Dwayne Conyers — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:35:19 -0400

Censoring C-----r would put Ritz and Saltine out of business.

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Response by PFC Jonathan Albano made Aug 14 at 2017 10:22 PM

PFC Jonathan Albano — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:22:39 -0400

I lean twords neither being censored as I feel it's not the Government's business to tell the people what we can and can't say (the only time the government should intervene is if one or both parties in conflict with each other steps outside the law). That said, if a private organization censors one, as is their right as a private entity, I would expect them to censor both as well as equivalent racial terms.

Response by SGT Anna Kleinschmidt made Aug 15 at 2017 12:04 AM

SGT Anna Kleinschmidt — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 00:04:27 -0400

I had to read to see what "c" word you were referring to. And then it just made me laugh. I have never been called that. I have heard my daughter called the "n" word on many occasions where it was used to inflict harm and hatred tword her. It is a word that is not allowed in my home. I could care less if someone called me a cracker or a cookie or what ever my skin is pretty thick, but you hurt one of my children you will answer to momma bear! The "n" word was not a bad word at one point in time and using it is not a matter of being "p.c." The word has been made vluger by people utilizing the word for hate and meant to cause pain. This has changed the word from a simple discription into an extremely offensive word and "cracker" has not gone through the same process.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2017 8:37 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:37:14 -0400

Honestly, I feel that once a person resorts to name-calling, they have already lost the argument.
Let them continue to lose the argument.
Getting upset, outraged, and throwing a public fit only fuels the divide and those who wish to profit from it.

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Aug 18 at 2017 4:37 PM

SPC Jesse Davis — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:37:45 -0400

This false equivalence nonsense is almost funny. Almost.
Unfortunately, there are alot of people who think that the history and impact of these terms is equivalent - especially in the case where so many people don't even know what the 'c word' even is, lol.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2017 6:01 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 18:01:32 -0400

Because we don't have a history of Blacks oppressing White people. Use of one implies on some level a return to that power relationship of the old status quo, while use of the other isn't at all threatening.