Posted on Jan 19, 2014
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Coming from Fort Hood, TX, all PT/Reflective belts are worn neon yellow across the board in conjunction with pin on rank. I think this is all great because it shows uniformity and that no one is different than the next person. But here at Fort Wainwright, they have three different reflective belt colors, with different styles; therefor causing a calamity when it comes to being uniform. Blue for officers, Orange for NCOs, and Yellow for SPC and below. We're always speaking about being uniform, but I just think these different color belts are "correction deflectors". Anybody should and can be corrected when the correction is presented with professionalism and tact. You shouldn't have to pull some one of higher rank to the side to give them the gratitude of saving face; although embarrassing the person is not the goal. What do you all think about the lack of uniformity across the Army as far as the APFU? You can also inject the subject of the 'NEW' Black and Gold APFU.
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I'll go one step further: Rank on the reflective belt is bad. Worse even than different colors for junior enlisted, NCOs, and officers.

My old BN commander had it right: "Everyone will wear yellow; there will be no rank on the belt. There's a CoC picture wall for you to study so you know whom you have to know. Everyone else will distinguish themselves through PT."

There's a reason there's no spot for rank on the IPFU: It really doesn't matter for the intended purpose. If you don't know who someone is, you treat them with the deference and respect you want to be treated with. If you do know who someone is, you don't need a subdued pin-on rank on a piece of safety equipment to remind you. If you really have to engage in the "I outrank you" game, whip out and measure your CACs.

For a short time, I had to wear a reflective vest with "SSG BEUTLER" sown onto the front & back along with a subdued SSG rank on the reflective part. I sarcastically asked for PT shoes that played "Here comes a special boy!" on loop as I ran.
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I agree with this no doubt. Especially not having to wear the rank because the CoC wall for you to know exactly who you are talking to.
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SSG Matthew Adkins
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I love the last sentence of that quote.
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Surprised that the 25th Alaska didn't follow 25th Hawaii lead and ditch the belt all together.
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SSG Senior Supply Sergeant
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On the School side we issue different colors PT belt, To be able to Identify AIT Students, Cadres, Officers, Warrant Officers and NCO...
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I think it's ego. Senior personnel want to make sure they are recognized and deferred to, even when not wearing rank..
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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How about just the PFU, seeing as how reflectivity is already built into it =)
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CW2 Automotive Maintenance Warrant Officer
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SSG Hasbun, I noticed you are from Ft Lee... LOL... this is the first place I have seen PT belts used for showing what rank a person falls in =)

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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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We don't do that. It's vests for Instructors and AIT PSG's, and whatever color you want for permanent party. That's it. AIT kids aren't even allowed to wear them. I suppose that's kinda similair, but we've never done the rank/color thing here, at least not in my time here...
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At Fort Campbell we were the green PT belt. Some of the schools here will wear a different color so those individuals can be identified when they do PT around other units. I see some senior NCOs put their rank on their PT belt but I don't think it is needed. It is too easy to fix any issue and find out who the Soldier belongs to if really needed.
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Because PT belts are from Satan and he is the author of confusion.
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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Can't be. Satans crime in the bible was granting humans knowledge and critical thinking. PT belts are clearly not the result of critical thinking ;)
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SFC Medical Platoon Sergeant
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The good idea fairy had a field day with reflective belts.

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Cpl Christopher Mcclain
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Yeah let's all wear reflective belts while in country while we PT so the enemy knows where we are at all times. I hated pt belts.
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