Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

CPT Griff Tatum Yea that’s frustrating seeing as in U11-20... and U12-20 published

U12-20 has not published - its 121 days in cycle.. or if it has there has been no notice of it happening.

CW3 (Join to see) - According to her out of office reply U12-20 has published. It might take some time (24-48) to see an order.

CPT Griff Tatum - you'll have to email me or hit me up on teams to explain her "out of office reply". but if that's the case - the YEAH!! maybe... 123 days

CPT (Join to see) - OTJAG as of 5 AUG

MAJ (Join to see) - THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

CPT (Join to see) - You're welcome. The newest update was 8 Aug and your scroll is still OTJAG. If you want to check, search for Ricci Moore on the global email. When you put her name in the to box, an automatic reply will show up with the status of all scrolls. My scroll published so I don't anticipate being present on this site as often.

MAJ (Join to see) - Appreciate the info!

30 MAY 2019 is my effective date, it's sitting in my IPERMS this morning. PL9-19

CH (LTC) (Join to see) - Great to hear sir!

congrats to you 9-19! Long wait time...

Can anyone provide a P22-19 update? Thanks in advance.

I'm on 12-19, my FEDREC appeared in IPERMS on the 12th with an effective date of 18JUN19.

Any updates since 19 July?

MAJ (Join to see) - I don't have access to my mil email. If you do,To get the most up to date list open up a new message in your enterprise email. locate and add "Moore, Ricci" in the to line. Do not actually send the email. if you do this after work hours an away message will pop up on your screen. It'll have the most recent update

MAJ (Join to see) I dont have access until next week

It's just a rough guide. P09-19 has been sitting at final stage OSD for 6-7 weeks.

P09-19 flew through offices until it reached OSD.

U12-19 has been at JAG for over 40 days. Must be summer break.

Can you post an updated list please. Thank you

MAJ (Join to see) - Excellent! Thanks for the update!

Potentially 11 scrolls could be published in JUL (looking at the list from 7JUN) ? At least this is what I'm telling myself as I'm on P13-19

p16-19: Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs appr

MAJ (Join to see) - On the brightside you packet is moving quickly it seems

Outstanding and Congratulations! Hopefully that means there's forward progress with the OSD.

Congratulations

Congrats!

Thanks! Definitely makes that overseas pay nicer... Hopefully the other OSD folks can get done soon!

CPT (Join to see) - Yeah... I'm wondering what's up with your scroll? I know that they used to hold things up if there was an issue with a single person--not sure if that's the case now. But just looking at previous posts and times, I'm hoping we both get sent to OSD near the same time.

There isn't an update posted today, but expect one to come Monday.

I am also on PL 05-19 I am really hoping before the end of April as we have our first AT

Update above!

Is PL05-19 same as P05-19 for the scroll numbers?

Posted an update above.

P05-19 / My state orders posted on Nov 15th any update on the tracker? mine just says scroll created 0 days in process

CPT (Join to see) you are currently at JAG.

MAJ (Join to see) - Thank You for the update

About freeking time.

doubt it :( such a broken process, only backdates for 1LT. Lose $$$!

CPT (Join to see) - This I believe passed this summer:

https://shea-porter.house.gov/media/in-the-news/national-guard-promotion-provision-makes-it-house-ndaa

I'm am of course interested in the pay as it would be a nice little bonus for me this year, but more interested in the TIG as I'm sure many other people are as well.

MAJ (Join to see) - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2801/text Not yet. One day, but none of us will have benefited from it.

Anyone have their orders post in IPerms for P10-18?

Hi Randall, did she give you a status update when you called? Thank you!

EDITED: nevermind, i found the show additional comments button and saw your previous comment. thank you!

I was just informed that P10-18 is at CSA

Any P10-18ers see any change? The G1 tracker still shows us at DMPM, I know this never gets updated. From the above post does anyone know how long it can be if we're at CSA?

There has not been an update on the G1 tracker since at least Wednesday of last week for P10-18. I tried looking at the various charts provided in this thread, its really sporadic on when a scroll moves from step to step.

L02-18 has been sitting idle for five or six weeks now. Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs. 182 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Does anyone know what all the different types of scrolls are designated for? There are "P", "L", "D", "S", and "U".

This is my best guess, please correct me if I'm wrong:
L = 1LT
P = CPT-LTC
S = COL-LTG
D = CW2
U = CW3-CW5

If scrolls starting with "L" are just for promotion to 1LT, there are a lot of people in those scrolls. Last year, there were 16 "P" scrolls. Since there are only 4 "L" scrolls per year, I assume that means there could be up to four times the number of people in "L" scrolls than there are in "P" scrolls. I don't see the "L" scrolls move four times slower, so that's positive.

P10-18 was behind P09-18 by 19 days. P09-18 got approved about 23 days ago...not sure what's the hold up on P10-18

P10-18 was at JAG for almost 2 month longer than P09-18. They got there about the same time in early May, but P09-18 left JAG the first week of June. P10-18 didn't move on until July 31st. My guess is that someone in our scroll needed a lot more attention at JAG.

There was a batch of 3 scrolls that were published at the same time. We barely missed that group. Now I assume we will be the old scroll in the next batch.

Unfortunate part of it...worked in a Major's position for almost a year as a 1LT with all the duties and responsibilities, but none of the rank, pay, or backing to go with it.

Congrats!!

It was about time. Does anyone know how much will it take until we get the back pay?

If I remember correctly from my promotion to 1LT, I think I saw an LES for backpay a week or two after FedRec.

What site are you pulling this info? I'm on P09-18 and curious where I sit as I'm 80 days into the process.

That looks like DPRO. Theres also the career tracker site, which seems to be down today...

CW5 (Join to see) - Correct. DPRO in the G1 portal. Have to request access, have RCAS, etc. etc. It is handy for other things as well

Congrats! D16-17 277 days wont be long now!

Thanks! We spent only 17 days at SECDEF but we were over the 300 day mark so I’m sure that’s one of the reasons we didn’t spend 28-60 days at SECDEF like some I know.

Fingers crossed I don't spend too long at SECDEF! Hopefully the next time we scroll they will have the process fixed.

WOOHOO!!!

I’ve seen 48 hours... and as 1LT Blankenship can attest to I’ve seen never

That's a great back date on the rank. Congrats!

It hit my iPerms at 1720 EDT.

Same. P5-18 orders already in iperms

Congrats, nice to finally see something move out of SECDEF's office. Curious to know what the date of ranks are once they post to iPerms?

Im told the DOR for P03 is 29 May

MAJ (Join to see) - Thank you! This is very helpful. And, you raise a good point. Just because P01-18 is moving through the process faster than others doesn't mean its an acceptable amount of time that we should have to wait. Just glad to see that there is some improvement! My unit first submitted my packet OCT 2016, so, I would love to not have to do this timeline over again for MAJ. :)

MAJ (Join to see) - I vote for restoration of TIG and back pay, too, sir. :) From some discussions over on the P10-17 page, I think a both/and approach will be best, and I agree a "one voice" strategy could help us all. The lengthy delays in addition to the non-standardized process causes harm through the loss of TIG, while also arbitrarily promoting some officers over others, regardless of TIG already served and the date they entered into the FedRec process. There are also both Army (AR 600-8-29) and US (10 U.S. Code §14311(2)(d)) codes that officer promotions should not be delayed more than 6 months due to punitive actions, and I think we could make a case to have the "spirit" of this law applied to us, even though it technically refers to delays due to disciplinary actions.

Some sample language that I used in a follow up email letter to one of my senators: "I am respectfully requesting the we be allowed to apply 10 U.S. Code §14311(2)(d) to our case to have our DORs corrected, even though we are experiencing these lengthy delays through no fault of our own, are in good standing with the Army, and are not pending any disciplinary action. Additionally, soldiers who have previously applied to have their DORs corrected through the Army Board for Correction of Military Records have been advised that the Department of the Army does not have jurisdiction to change our DORs because the promotion orders for Army National Guard Officers are signed by the Office of the Secretary of Defense. I am respectfully requesting that the Secretary of the Army be notified of his authority to correct DORs for National Guard Officers in this instance through 10 U.S. Code § 741(4)(a) and 10 U.S. Code §14311(2)."

Who knows if it will work, but it makes me feel better to try. :)

MAJ (Join to see) - I have reviewed an ABCMR case where an officer attempted to obtain a correction to his DOR based on undergoing the UVP process, being removed from the same just prior to orders production to be considered by the DA Board, and the result was a "negative." In this case, however, the officer presented a correction based on the wrong premise: he asked to have his DOR corrected to the same date as the officers promoted via the UVP versus the DA Board. He should have asked for the correction based on the law stating an officer can only be considered by ONE promotion board, not two.

No update from G1 today (yet), but I will post as soon as they send out their report. I only have access to the information from a few people in my Command getting promoted, so dont have a wider view of more of the scrolls...

Does anyone know why U05-18 isn't showing up at all?

It could just be that my State (VA) doesnt have anyone on that list...
I just collect from a State Tracker report....

Can't say "thank you" enough for sharing these updates! That is AMAZING if P10-17 is actually at OSD...today is my 1 year state promotion anniversary, so that would be quite a gift. ;)

I'm still trying to figure out what the issue is with P12-17 and why it seems to be on its own path.

Nice. Keep in mind, though, that we still have to go through OSD...not quite sure how P13-17 beat us there, but just trying to be glad for movement.

We were told a group of scrolls got "lost" in the system while someone was on extended medical leave and they just found them a few months ago. I wish they would have pushed them through in order or would at least be willing to correct the DOR so that future promotions won't be affected. (But no one asks me what I think.)

I think you are right, Chief. We need all the representation that we can get.

1LT(P) (Join to see) - mine aren't in iPERMS yet either....not sure how long it will be for that to happen. Probably depends on the state.

I heard that the turn around to iPERMS is fairly quick. I'd recommend you forward your FEDREC order to your S1 and Commander to see how they would want to handle pinning you. I know some leadership doesn't like for individuals to self pin themselves when their orders come through.

MAJ (Join to see) - Sir, was this your final count on days?

Well for the lucky crew on 3-17 we are at day 211 as of the 26th......this is why my AUDIT-C score on my PHA is 34!!!!!!!

Anyone else having issues accessing the G1 Portal? The self-service website keeps timing out.

CPT Michael Ludwick - It was probably broken by the flood of people trying to log on. lol

The order was dropped into IPERMS a couple hours ago and DOR was on the 2nd of May. It appears SFC Palmer was correct on when SECDEF approved the scroll. Congrats All!

Imagine that, the G1 portal is down. And here we sit, wondering why the FedRec process takes so long. Heck, the G1 cannot even manage something as simple as their website, yet our careers are in their hands. Incredible, simply incredible!