Why would a soldier be given additional counseling for writing a rebuttal in the remarks section of a counseling statement?

2018-12-09T13:08:24-05:00

Response by SFC Marc W. made Dec 9 at 2018 2:00 PM

2018-12-09T14:00:10-05:00

That's a big question with very little detail.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Dec 9 at 2018 7:31 PM

2018-12-09T19:31:40-05:00

It is your right to write a rebuttal and no more counseling is needed. Against the reg. It will be put in the trash by your commander. Make a appointment with your CO and request a transfer.

Response by SPC Woodrow Luttrell made Dec 10 at 2018 7:06 AM

2018-12-10T07:06:57-05:00

The question concerns a battle buddy. During APFT he was stopped with time left and told by the grading NCO that he passed his sit-ups. Then recieved a negative counseling for not passing that portion. The soldier holding his feet counted until time was called but the NCO dis not. The soldier was threatened with an addition negative counseling if he wrote anything in the remarks section.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Dec 10 at 2018 11:22 AM

2018-12-10T11:22:35-05:00

It's a matter of how bad do you want to find out. Respectful rebuttal is just that. Both sides are in the record. At some point if/when Upline reads the stuff, they either care or don't care. However if the rebuttal is snide, demeaning, etc., then you are begging for additional counseling. Counseling sheets are like the internet. Stuff hangs around and resurfaces when it will do the most damage. Don't set yourself up for damage. The best thing is respect. If that causes more paper to be generated, then you have an opportunity to go upline yourself through whatever redress avenues the Command has in place. From my viewpoint of having several CO jobs, two pieces of paper like that floating up has me dinging the SEL to sort out the petty tit for tat that's going on because almost invariably, something else is going on. There's always two sides, but the senior NCO community really wants to keep this stuff in house and I support that 200%. I"d say most of this stuff boils down to miscommunication, got up on the wrong side of the bed, whatever. Neither "story" is necessarily accurate, and Grow Up Pills are administered as needed. I could care less about the occasional bogie, but don't make a habit out of generating paper. That tells me something else.

Response by SSG Matthew Koehler made Dec 16 at 2018 12:05 PM

2018-12-16T12:05:30-05:00

Cheese and Crackers guys! Wait till you get a job in the real world! Do you think the bs counselings and reprimands stop there? You would be shocked what kind of crap goes on in the civilian sector. My advice is to keep good notes (names, dates, and locations), then file a complaint for discrimination.