Why would the new weapons qualification form affect my promotion points?

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 13:02:49 -0400

So I did weapons qualifications in 2020 and recently again in April 2021. Same score for both times yet my points for promotion dropped by 40 points due to the scoring? Apparently there's a new DA scoring form out and the points for each category aren't the same or changed? I'm just trying to see why my points would drop drastically if I qualified in the same category.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2021 1:19 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 13:19:54 -0400

First step here would be to get with your FLL. Did you already talk to them and ask if they can help clarify?

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Jul 1 at 2021 2:54 PM

SSG Carlos Madden — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 14:54:45 -0400

MSG Private RallyPoint Member Do you know anything about this?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2021 4:08 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 16:08:12 -0400

DOT 40 does score differently than the old qual did. Your number of hits count still but now there is a requirement to hit certain targets, at certain distances. If you have the number of hits for sharpshooter but didn’t hit the required targets, you don’t get sharpshooter.

For instance, and I’m pulling numbers out of the air for an example, for sharpshooter you have to hit 35 targets but 4 have to be 300 meter hits, and you hit 35 targets but 3 at 300, you are now a marksman.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2021 4:21 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 16:21:43 -0400

There is a lot going on with the new TC-3-20.40

That's what's probably going on.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Jul 1 at 2021 7:33 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:33:31 -0400

IZ'm with SFC Private RallyPoint Member on this one. My first qualifications were based on 80 targets, not the 40 later years required.

Response by CPL Peter King made Jul 3 at 2021 12:34 AM

CPL Peter King — Sat, 03 Jul 2021 00:34:17 -0400

Why is weapons test used for promotion? Isn’t it a pass/fail test?

As a British “Soldier one” I can conduct fire missions for a Battle Group. It doesn’t matter that I can achieve a first round hit at 2.5km from a MBT.

My CO would raise concerns about why I’m dropping infantry 300 meters from the objective!

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Jul 6 at 2021 5:17 PM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Tue, 06 Jul 2021 17:17:15 -0400

Why assume it’s just a range score? Could be a bloated MOS where the points just went up, the range is just a small part of a pieces part in the system, PT scores, Pro/ Con scores, time in service, time in grade, etc.