Posted on Apr 10, 2017
Will a letter of recommendation help me rejoin the Army or NG after having been separated with an RE-3 and previous UCMJ?
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Does letter of recommendations help? I have my old 1sgt now SGM said he will write one for me and possibly my old CO who is now an O-4. I've been out since 2012 and the past UMCJ action I received I've felt being out and working the civilian job workforce, I've changed tremendously. Clean civilian record, laser off my neck tattoo to abide by new policy changes. Fulfilled my contract and ETS with honorable
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If you don't get in soon due to past try after you get an Associates or Bachelors Degree. I joined the ARNG at 31 and became a 2Lt at 33 years 9 months. They almost didn't let me in because admitted to smoking pot 4 times but I had a college degree and afterwards 8 years after I stopped and they finally let me in and I graduated basic training as the old Soldier but with one of the highest PT scores
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Thank you Maj Conway, currently working full time and school as well pursing a degree in the cyber security world. Thank you for your service, I've seen my fair share of older soldiers out PT some new ones.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch Letters of recommendation can only help. I am glad that you have a positive change. Good luck.
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If you are serious I can get you an answer, do you have a copy of your DD214 that you would be willing to share?
If so send it to me at [login to see]
I work in the largest recruiting BN in the army, we are always looking for NPS. Waivers are a possibility.
Letters Always help....unless the recommender uses boiler plate bland descriptions or is unqualified to recommend (no military service).
If so send it to me at [login to see]
I work in the largest recruiting BN in the army, we are always looking for NPS. Waivers are a possibility.
Letters Always help....unless the recommender uses boiler plate bland descriptions or is unqualified to recommend (no military service).
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Sir, first and foremost you don't how much it means to me for you to review my infomation. I'll be more to willing to see anything that you will need or that will help the process. I will be sending over my member 4 here shortly to you. Thank you sincerely for responding and taking your time to look into this.
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You can always wait for war to break out and they'll take you no problem ;D lol
All joking aside, letters are good. Always good to see fellow soldiers make positive changes in their lives. Good luck PFC Justin DeLoatch
All joking aside, letters are good. Always good to see fellow soldiers make positive changes in their lives. Good luck PFC Justin DeLoatch
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MSG Brad Sand
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You may be shocked to find the opposite is often true. It is always...ALWAYS...a number game. Normally, when the Nation is feeling the threat of war, the number of people walking in the recruiting office doors actually goes up...so there is less need or reason to process a waiver.
You may be shocked to find the opposite is often true. It is always...ALWAYS...a number game. Normally, when the Nation is feeling the threat of war, the number of people walking in the recruiting office doors actually goes up...so there is less need or reason to process a waiver.
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Point well taken MSG Brad Sand . I think it also depends on the MOS. If he requested 11B, 19D or even 19K for examples, they may consider a waiver as we're currently deploying to Germany to fulfill a contract Obama signed to support the Ukrain/ Russian border before leaving office.
Not sure the complete situation he faces but each circumstance can be at least looked at. It would obviously need an upper chain of command approval or denial.
Idk, I got a lot of waivers approved when I was a recruiter. Sometimes the right verbiage can go a long way as well. That and I was related to an 0-10. God rest his sole.
Any things possible. First step is trying.
Not sure the complete situation he faces but each circumstance can be at least looked at. It would obviously need an upper chain of command approval or denial.
Idk, I got a lot of waivers approved when I was a recruiter. Sometimes the right verbiage can go a long way as well. That and I was related to an 0-10. God rest his sole.
Any things possible. First step is trying.
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MSG Brad Sand
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The combat arms MOS were actually pretty easy to fill. The MOS that were much harder were jobs like 92G, 88M and 92F...important job, for sure, but not ones that normally jump to one's mind when thinking about 'being in the Army'.
The combat arms MOS were actually pretty easy to fill. The MOS that were much harder were jobs like 92G, 88M and 92F...important job, for sure, but not ones that normally jump to one's mind when thinking about 'being in the Army'.
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Lol... true... I think people only think of the basic when they walk through the door. I remember as soon as people walked through the door and asked what brings you in. The basic response was "I want blow shit up!!" ... lol... or they want some ASI, and you have to explain those arnt an MOS there a skill you obtain in certain MOS'. Lol...
Well I can only suggest this young man figure out if he can qualify for any of the much needed MOS to be filled. I would look into finding the station commander at a recruiting center who really likes to get 100% quota met. There usually the ones that know the ins and outs of what can can't be done.
I've found a lot of recruiters today are lazy and just like to get the quick enlistments. Just my observations recently.
Well I can only suggest this young man figure out if he can qualify for any of the much needed MOS to be filled. I would look into finding the station commander at a recruiting center who really likes to get 100% quota met. There usually the ones that know the ins and outs of what can can't be done.
I've found a lot of recruiters today are lazy and just like to get the quick enlistments. Just my observations recently.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Thanks for the reply, Definitely getting that in the works. I want to come prepared as possible.
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You will need a waiver, and they are limited in quantity. Therefore, you're going to need to make your application stand out from the rest. Some LORs will help you do just that, but so will some documentation of what you have done to improve yourself since you got out the first time.
Good luck, PFC Justin DeLoatch
Good luck, PFC Justin DeLoatch
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Thank you 1sgt, It took me losing something great to realize how good I had it. This was by far the best job I've could ask for and regret some of my past actions. At the same time it developed me and gave me a different mindset. I thank you for your response.
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MSG Brad Sand
PFC Justin DeLoatch -
Before we can know if you will need a waiver...and if someone actually looks closely are AR 601-210, everything can be waived if you have people with enough juice...and most of us don't...we need to know the Block 24 Character of Service, 26. Separation Code and 28. Narrative Reason for Separation. If it is a straight RE 3, that is not actually telling us everything. In truth, a 3 is good in many ways...at least as far as wading into a waiver...if needed.
Before we can know if you will need a waiver...and if someone actually looks closely are AR 601-210, everything can be waived if you have people with enough juice...and most of us don't...we need to know the Block 24 Character of Service, 26. Separation Code and 28. Narrative Reason for Separation. If it is a straight RE 3, that is not actually telling us everything. In truth, a 3 is good in many ways...at least as far as wading into a waiver...if needed.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
MSG Brad Sand - Thank you MSG, ill be more than happy to provide that info. Block 24. Honorable 26. MBK 28. Completion of required service 29. Dates of lost time that I had and reason for my ucmj action.
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MSG Brad Sand
PFC Justin DeLoatch -
Wait second here...I'm not in the USAREC any more...I retired? Talk to your local recruiting office and they should be able to help you. The letter from your former CO and 1SG will help. I'm guessing you may need a waiver but that just mean you will need to do extra paper work...it will be easier to get this approved in a Reserve component...but do what is right for you.
Wait second here...I'm not in the USAREC any more...I retired? Talk to your local recruiting office and they should be able to help you. The letter from your former CO and 1SG will help. I'm guessing you may need a waiver but that just mean you will need to do extra paper work...it will be easier to get this approved in a Reserve component...but do what is right for you.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Thank you SSG Scheil, Im grateful that my 1sgt & CO CDR was able to see past my misconduct.
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You got a RE-3 for a reason. What happened? You will need a waiver. A good recruiter knows how to do the paperwork to get you back in boots.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Failure to report I have lost time, my local ARNG recruiter advised me that i was good to come back in yesterday afternoon. This was after reviewing my paperwork, will need a refresher course. Would love to go back active, but at this point I would serve in aspect of the Army.
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MSG Brad Sand
Before we can know if he will need a waiver...and if someone actually looks closely are AR 601-210, everything can be waived if you have people with enough juice...and most of us don't...we need to know the Block 24 Character of Service, 26. Separation Code and 28. Narrative Reason for Separation. If it is a straight RE 3, that is not actually telling us everything. In truth, a 3 is good in many ways...at least as far as wading into a waiver...if needed.
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An RE3 is absolutely workable (depending on the reason). An LOR never hurts. And right now, it's the easiest for prior service that I've seen in the last 3 or 4 years.
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PFC Justin DeLoatch
Not sure what we are voting on? To the question, they will not hurt and that is for sure. I would need more information to answer if they would be needed. If you look in the blocks 26 to 29, you will find the real answers to your question. A Reserve Component will always be easier for a PS to get into. IF you did need a waiver, then the letters would be an awesome addition.
Not sure what we are voting on? To the question, they will not hurt and that is for sure. I would need more information to answer if they would be needed. If you look in the blocks 26 to 29, you will find the real answers to your question. A Reserve Component will always be easier for a PS to get into. IF you did need a waiver, then the letters would be an awesome addition.
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SFC Beaver that would make things a little easier huh lol
Looking back i wish i didnt have to take the route where I'm at, but it did mold me to see the struggles. Thank you for taking your time at repsonding and viewing my post.
Looking back i wish i didnt have to take the route where I'm at, but it did mold me to see the struggles. Thank you for taking your time at repsonding and viewing my post.
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