Will an Article 15 stop me from becoming a warrant officer?

2018-08-01T01:21:48-04:00

In 2010 I received an Article 15 and I wanted to know will that stop me from becoming a warrant officer? What if the Article 15 is not in my IPERMS can someone still see I received an Article 15? Also who can see restricted files in my (our) IPERMS?

My MOS is 92Y Unit supply Specialist and I want to become a 920A Property Accounting Technician!
If you can, can you respond to all the questions please.
Thank you to anyone who respond.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2018 4:30 AM

2018-08-01T04:30:44-04:00

Is there anything in your records that states you had an article 15? Also, were you an NCO when you received it?

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Aug 1 at 2018 5:40 AM

2018-08-01T05:40:28-04:00

Depends on what your rank was at the time, and what you received it for.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2018 6:30 AM

2018-08-01T06:30:15-04:00

What rank were you when you received the UCMJ action? Also what level of UCMJ was it. The safe answer is apply for a morality waiver for the UCMJ. The board can not see your restricted file however they now do reviews for every promotion now and it is my understanding that the restricted file is looked at. Not sure if they go into your enlisted record though. Have you looked in your restricted file in IPERMs and looked to see if it is there or if you can see the UCMJ action? If you can't see it there is a chance no one else will either

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2018 6:32 AM

2018-08-01T06:32:56-04:00

You need to submit a moral waiver with your packet, and the waiver gets approved/disapproved by someone at the pentagon. There is an example on the USAREC website. If you don’t submit one, you run into the risk of them finding it, which will instantly disqualify you from becoming a WO, but that’s a choice you must make.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Aug 1 at 2018 8:30 AM

2018-08-01T08:30:08-04:00

What kind of Art. 15 was it? What was it for? Was it placed in your restricted OMPF or unrestricted?

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Aug 1 at 2018 10:50 AM

2018-08-01T10:50:02-04:00

Yes, It can stop you if they ask or see it, because it will reflect on your character and standards.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Aug 1 at 2018 12:41 PM

2018-08-01T12:41:42-04:00

What was your rank when you got that Article 15? If you were E4 or below, the record of that offense is only kept for two years, or until you PCS. The Army generally does not hold an Article 15 against you as long as you had not promoted to E-5 or above. If you received it as an E-5, whether it is in your public or restricted file is at the discretion of the commander that issued the Article 15. If I had gotten it as an E5, I would assume that the selection board has access to your restricted file and come clean about it. If it was while you were E4 or below , I would be honest if they ask, but wouldn't volunteer that information.
From someone that has had to give more than one Article 15, if you were an NCO and I put it in your restricted file, it meant that I thought you had f**ked up and needed a lesson, but I thought that you were worth the effort to keep around.

Response by SPC David S. made Aug 1 at 2018 1:42 PM

2018-08-01T13:42:12-04:00

To start receiving an Article 15 mean that you committed some offense under the UCMJ. Your CO ensured that an alleged offense did in fact violate the UCMJ, an Army Regulations, an Army Policy, a lawful order, any local laws or some other rule that you had a duty to obey. So yes I'd say a review board would look at this in a negative manner. A lot as others have stated is if this is private or public file. Could you get a letter of recommendation from the CO who gave the Article 15 in case its brought up ?

https://www.de.ng.mil/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ocs-recommendation.pdf

ocs-recommendation.pdf

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2018 1:50 PM

2018-08-01T13:50:53-04:00

That was eight years ago. A board considers how you have grown, what you have achieved, and so forth, during the years following the incident. If you were rehabilitated from the incident, meaning additional derogatory information is absence during the subsequent time frame, you’ll be fine. You will need to address the incident honestly if required. The primary concern is related to the security clearance, but it related to the aforementioned context. Hope this helps.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Aug 1 at 2018 4:29 PM

2018-08-01T16:29:06-04:00

Note the five areas that are in my board file (scroll down) https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Selection%20Boards%20Frequently%20Asked%20Questions

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Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2018 7:24 PM

2018-08-06T19:24:28-04:00

Most likely no at most they will ask for your last 5 NCOERs.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2018 9:00 AM

2018-08-09T09:00:41-04:00

Go with the advice from the WOs and I would recommend talking about it with the SR WO who you are asking to write your recommendation letter and get their take on the matter. I’ve witnessed past matters force former WOs out as NCOs since they were beyond their RCP when it was discovered. Although it may seem counterintuitive, honestly is the best policy. Even if it prevents you from becoming a WO, it’s better than what can happen later on if it is discovered after the fact and you didn’t disclose it.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2018 12:51 AM

2018-08-31T00:51:18-04:00

Not necessarily.

If it is not in Iperms, then no one can see it. If it is in the restricted section in iperms, then it is in iperms and open to derog investigation for centralized boards. I see you are USAR, if you wish to further discuss a Warrant Officer career, you may contact me at [login to see]

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2018 10:40 PM

2018-09-13T22:40:28-04:00

Chances are your Article 15 was local. That means that is stays with the unit you got it in. If you have changed units, changed states it is gone away. One of my soldiers asked me the same thing today. You should be fine, good luck!

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Apr 19 at 2019 9:16 PM

2019-04-19T21:16:57-04:00

I had one for speeding ticket in Germany. Got a verbal.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Apr 19 at 2019 9:19 PM

2019-04-19T21:19:05-04:00

I think the army should reinstate pro pay for e4 through e6? Thoughts?

Response by SFC George Smith made Apr 19 at 2019 9:56 PM

2019-04-19T21:56:43-04:00

Depending on your rank at the time it was administered... and how well you have progressed since …