Will being an Eagle Scout before the military get a PFC a waiver to SPC?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 23:12:19 -0500

I have a young brand new soldier who is curious if his status as an Eagle Scout will help with getting a waiver to Specialist when the time comes. I was never a boy/cub scout but realize that achieving the rank of Eagle Scout is a big deal. I've known a few soldiers that are Eagle Scouts and it shows thru their leadership and attitude. Usually make pretty good soldiers.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2019 11:53 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 23:53:10 -0500

If the SM used his eagle scout to get his E-3 promotion it shouldn't been applied again to E-4.
At the point it should be based on their actions while in the service and their potential as a leader.

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made Mar 1 at 2019 12:05 AM

SPC Casey Ashfield — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 00:05:05 -0500

I am not aware of any soldier who used a Boy Scout membership for Army promotion points. I know of several Eagle scouts who enlisted or become officers. So if the experience is rewarded in the Army somehow it would be good to know for others.

For what it is worth, I got my E-3 to E-4 TIG waiver from my XO waiver for being motivated and a SMC cadet. Not for my "civilian" life.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2019 2:11 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 02:11:01 -0500

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-does-the-rank-of-eagle-scout-mean-to-the-military

What does the rank of Eagle Scout mean to the military? | RallyPoint

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Mar 1 at 2019 2:28 AM

1SG Brian Adams — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 02:28:07 -0500

Quick answer..."no"...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2019 2:30 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 02:30:50 -0500

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2019 6:27 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 06:27:29 -0500

Eagle Scout can get you PFC but it must be done as part of the enlistment process. If it was not applied prior to him taking his formal oath it will not be used.

Doesn't mean he can not use it while requesting a TIG waiver, but other than that it will not apply.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2019 9:07 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 09:07:00 -0500

It should have been applied to a rank when he enlisted by his recruiter so he wouldnt start as a straight pvt.

Response by MSG Frank Kapaun made Mar 1 at 2019 9:44 AM

MSG Frank Kapaun — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 09:44:47 -0500

No, but the silver lining to this cloud is the SM will know how to make a dandy batch of S’mores and how to help a retired O6s wife across the street to the commissary.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Mar 1 at 2019 10:33 AM

SPC Erich Guenther — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 10:33:23 -0500

Go through ABCMR for this, troop might have to wait a while but will be happier as he will get money for backpay on top. ABCMR = Army Board Correction of Military Records. I did this in 1984 to correct for the MEPS miscounting my college credits. The ABCMR promoted me to the next rank, fixed my records and issued backpay as if it never happened. It will save you all the work as all the troop has to do is supply paperwork he was an Eagle Scout before enlistment along with copy of his Enlistment papers. ABCMR will do the rest. No repercussions against anyone for jumping CoC. It is a very nice system the Army has here for MEPS issues that were missed like this. They used to be on the Internet they might be in AKO now. Just download their claim form, supply doco and write out that the MEPS missed this during enlistment process. They will fix it. The promotion orders and the orders to fix his records are signed by at least a one star General...........so nobody argues about it (heh-heh).

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2019 4:42 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 16:42:24 -0500

No, it will not. Eagle Scout assisted in getting me to E3, but the command team and work ethic assisted in getting E4. Let the SM know to work hard and have a positive attitude, that will get him noticed above his peers.