Posted on Feb 27, 2021
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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Since military benefits are lost on day 61 of a criminal conviction, will we finally see the retired and/or separated insurrectionist veterans lose their retirements, GI/9-11 bills, and VA benefits and stop them leeching off a government they wanted to overturn in the first place?

In addition, will we see their respective services follow precedent and subject those retirees to Court Martials, as they are still bound by UCMJ after retirement?
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LTC Patrick Turner
They are not insurrectionists. You've bought into the Pelosi narrative. They were not rebels nor trying to destroy our government. Those insurrectionists are the criminal rebels in Minneapolis and Portland, among others, who killed, robbed and burnt down blocks at a time. If these retirees were in violation of participating in a riot then they should be prosecuted.
LTC Patrick Turner
LTC Patrick Turner
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Precise. Pointed. Educated. Great response. SFC Dennis Calkins
MSG Antwine Marshall
MSG Antwine Marshall
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SPC Robert James , sounds legit to me.
SSgt Engineer Equipment Mechanic
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Remover any and all political bias and ultimately anyone that committed acts of violence and destruction/vandalism of property and assaults on law enforcement officers are CRIMINLAS. Those that attacked the Constitutionally designated seat of power and our elected representatives using force to interfere with the mechanisms of government are guilty of a crime. Their violation of of their oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States will not go unpunished. In the end. It does not pay to be a convenient idiot in the name of partisan theatrics and power plays. Politicization of military service is disgusting and we should all recoil away from it.
SGT Joanie MacConnell-Rozek
SGT Joanie MacConnell-Rozek
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People who were involved with violence should be prosecuted. Again- take the politics out of it for 1 minute- WOULD YOU BE ALRIGHT WITH ANYONE PHYSICALLY BREAKING INTO THE CAPITAL AND HARMING POLICE OFFICERS AND DOING DAMAGE TO THE PLACE??
MSG Civilian Investigator
While there are Supreme Court rulings that provide for certain retirees to be called back to active duty and tried under UCMJ, many retirees do not fall in that category such as Reservists and National Guard retirees.
Among the problems with your statement, if a retiree is charged under the Federal law, they are protected against being called back and charged under UCMJ for the same offense due to double jeopardy rules.
DOJ previously reported that most of the people who broke into Congress are being charged with entering and remaining in a restricted building, not seditious conspiracy or treason.
BTW, the DOJ charged some of the rioters in Portland who attacked the Federal courthouse for seditious conspiracy.
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SSG Wayne Wood -
The State ones were, not the Federal ones
SSG Wayne Wood
SSG Wayne Wood
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MSG (Join to see) - I was under the impression the DOJ dropped them, too. Glad to hear otherwise.
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SSG Wayne Wood -
There are various reports that out of 90 rioters who were charged, 31 were dropped. In almost every situation such as a riot, some charges will be dropped after prosecutors review the cases. Sometimes it is due to factors such as lack of eyewitnesses.
In the State's case, the Portland prosecutor refused to charge the vast majority of rioters
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SGT Steven Nelson
I think the standard was set by Obamas DOJ Holder. He was a pretty good fluffer and used the DOJ to push liberal policies
SFC Kurt Brunken
Makes my skin crawl to hear that term. The protestors on Jan 6th were not insurrectionists, they had zero chance of overthrowing the govt. Thats not how our govt works, he who sits in the capital doesn't become king.
SSG Brian G.
SSG Brian G.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - Does not matter what "they" believed or did not, they had not chance of success due simply to how our government is structured and works. They did not have the sitting President on their side, that was pretty resoundingly apparent and affirmed with this latest failed impeachment trial.
MSgt Steve Sweeney
MSgt Steve Sweeney
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SSG Brian G. - On January 6th, Donald Trump was the sitting President, genius. Joe Biden's inauguration was on the 20th... Or didn't you know that. So as a matter of fact, they DID have the sitting President backing them up and spurring on the insurrection.
SSG Brian G.
SSG Brian G.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - Very good, you finally figured that one out, genius. Now that you had someone smarter than you inform you of that little fact, ask them to point out in your favorite crayon color where he said to attack the Capital. Oh wait, that NEVER happened. That is the crazed moronic idea that people like YOU got in your heads and parroted after taking snippets from various speeches and assuming. No little intellect challenged one, they did not have ANY President backing them up. Or did you conveniently miss that in the evidence. You know, those things called facts that the Democrats LACKED utterly. Point of fact Trump only said to march to the Capital PEACEFULLY. Maybe when you learn to read you might comprehend these things.
MSgt Steve Sweeney
MSgt Steve Sweeney
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SSG Brian G. - Mob bosses rarely tell people to commit crimes openly, and yet they run the show under which crimes are committed. Nor do criminals always give signed confessions or openly discuss their crimes, and yet they are charged just the same. I know it is entirely beyond your limited comprehension or understanding how this happens, but maybe one day when you are a fully realized adult you will be able to figure it out. But first you will have to figure out when Presidents are inaugurated and who is the sitting President up to that point. You have some work to do. Good luck with that.

I do enjoy how people like you when they clearly make a mistake try so desperately to play it off instead of simply owning up to it. Reminds of the low caliber of people that vote for people like Trump.

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