Will the new promotion boards look at my bad paperwork, reflecting stuff I did as an E-5, to determine my eligibility for promotion to E-7?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:44:44 -0500

I did some stuff as an e5 that landed me with a lot of bad paperwork in my iperms such as gomor, art 15. Bad ncoer and 1059.

Will the new boards look at the stuff I did as an e5 to determine my eligibility for promotion?

I'm a new ssg.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Dec 8 at 2019 10:12 AM

Lt Col Charlie Brown — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 10:12:33 -0500

In the AF only E8 and E9 meet boards for promotion. All those ranks below that are based on promotion point system.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2019 10:21 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 10:21:38 -0500

It'll depend because the next 7 board won't be for another 2 years probably. I say 2 years because they haven't exhausted the list that came out in 2017 and the list that just came out last year had at least 70 selected. Its going to take some time. Couple that with the new merit base system, HRC will start putting out the guidance on how its going to work. Its going to take some time and given your situation, they [HRC] will definitely have some guidance on that. With that being said, your E5 NCOERs don't matter, they look at your NCOERs as a SSG. So you have a fair shot like the rest of us.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2019 1:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:34:02 -0500

Yes, those are labeled as a "-R" in your board file and they are required to look at it. After a year you can request to have it moved to your restricted file. But the board members as re required to read them.

Response by SSG Raul Alaniz made Dec 8 at 2019 1:35 PM

SSG Raul Alaniz — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:35:06 -0500

I knew some E-6's that got promoted to E-7 even thou they did jacked up thing's as E-4, and E-5's, they had the bad things in there Restricted Fiche(hope I spelled that right). I don't know if things have changed but they got promoted and I never got a speeding ticket and retired as an E-6, go figure.

Response by SFC Wendell Pruitt made Dec 8 at 2019 2:11 PM

SFC Wendell Pruitt — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 14:11:27 -0500

There are a number of good answers here but I will add mine as well, Since your record is a reflection of you and your service it is the tool used in making promotion selections, everything in it is open for review to some degree, However what you have done after the bad paper can and will off set to some degree that problem. It has been pointed out it does contain a Restricted area for certain items, In your case something like the Bad 1059 is usually able to be moved here when you show the deficiency has been overcame, I use this as an example because I had a bad one for one school as an E5 also, I attended as an E6 about 16 months later and the 1059 was a total opposite picture of my time there, I then also finished my Advanced Course a short while later as well as several others of a speciality nature, When My record went before the E7 Board the first time I was not Selected, however a year later and after an Involuntary Reclassification due my MOS being phased out I was Selected with a sequence number of 7 out of 28 in the new MOS. You need to dig in and learn how to make your record the best possible reflection of you using the guidelines long ago established to not allow good people to be sidelined by a relatively minor mistake while they were still in the growing phase of Military Service.

Response by CPL Gary Pifer made Dec 8 at 2019 4:37 PM

CPL Gary Pifer — Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:37:18 -0500

In the old days..I used to just remove my bad paperwork.. normally during an SRP. Once in the Marines I took out the charge sheet.... from my Art 15 proceeding.. The LTC yelled at the Legal Officer who yelled at the Legal Assistant. They searched in vain.... case dismissed.. but they made me paint the admin offices after hours and I found the hidden extra key to the keybox... my anger issues kept me an E-4....